Freeview channel number changes to go ahead: HD, Adult move on 17 October 2012
Brian Butterworth published on UK Free TV As first reported earlier in the year, Freeview channel numbers change on September 19th 2012 , some of the channel numbers used by Freeview are being moved to make way for more 'general entertainment' numbers.
However, Sky News and an adult channel appealed, and so the renumbering was put on hold. However, today:
"Both appeals have been considered in accordance with DMOL policy. Having independently reviewed the evidence put forward, the chair of DMOL does not consider that either party has presented a sufficiently compelling case that the moves should not go ahead. The original decisions will therefore stand."
This means that on 17th October 2012, the HD an Adult channels will move, thus:
HD channels move to 101-120
The "normal" order of channels is restored to HD:
101 BBC One HD; 102 BBC HD [or BBC TWO HD]; 103 ITV1 HD or STV HD; 104 Channel 4 HD; 105S4C Cirlun.
Note that S4C Cirlun is due to close on 1st December 2012, replaced by Channel 4 HD in Wales (see Channel 4 HD will replace S4C HD in Wales on Freeview HD on 1 December 2012 ). BBC ONE HD will have regional versions for Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland in late 2012. BBC TWO HD is planned to replace the BBC HD channel at some point in 2013.
Adult channels move to 171-198
The "adult" channels on Freeview move up from 92-99 to start from 171. Channel 170 and 199 will be "bookend" pages to note the presence of the adult channels for those who flick up and down the channels.
171 Television X; 172 smileTV2, 173 smileTV3, 174 Babestn, 175 PARTY, 176 Blue, 177 Babestn2, 178 Playboy.
The Children's and News channel numbers will move on the Wednesday that follows 16 weeks after LCN 65 is allocated (ie when the General Entertainment genre nears full capacity). In the event that the move date falls during a change freeze then the move would take effect on the Wednesday that follows the end of the change freeze.
News channels move to 131-150
131 BBC NEWS, 132 BBC Parliament, 133 Sky News, 134 Al Jazeera 6-8, 135 Al Jazeera Eng, 136 Russia Today, 137 Community.
Children's move to 121-130
121 CBBC; 122 CBeebies, 123 CITV.
Richard Davis: Please answer me this: how long is a piece of string?
It goes on to say "ie when the General Entertainment genre nears full capacity".
In essence, I understand that this means that when the "General Entertainment" genre gets so full that LCN 65 is allocated, then and only then will Childrens' and News channels move. This will take place on the Wednesday that follows 16 weeks after the allocation of LCN 65. There is another qualification above regarding should that date full within a freeze-period on changes.
And so, without knowledge of when LCN 65 might be allocated, it isn't possible to give an absolute date for change of Childrens' and News genres.
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7:01 PM
Kidderminster
i have two tv aerial on my roof one running two tvs up staires and the other only running the one tv down staries i can get pick tv and dave on both tvs up staries but down staires it keeps jumbing one minute i have 28% and can watch it then it goes to 8% then 2% then 1% and it keeps doing it can you help thanks
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steve's: mapS's Freeview map terrainS's terrain plot wavesS's frequency data S's Freeview Detailed Coverage
9:09 PM
steve: If the two aerials on your roof are facing the same direction then your problem is suggestive of the aerial that feeds downstairs TV having a bad connection somewhere along the line, and this could be from the TV's coax plug to where the coax is terminated on the aerial.
You should carefully unscrew the TV's coax plug to make sure that a strand of wire from the braiding hasn't accidentally wrapped itself around the middle core of the coax, this being quite a common problem, if though it appears as being OK then the problem has to be at the aerial end if its a continuous length of coax.
The only other possibility "not" connected to the aerial is that when you retuned your TV it picked up the incorrect mux channel, the easy way to tell being to try one of the TV's from upstairs on the downstairs aerial and carry out a check on the problem channels, if it works OK then the main TV requires another re-tune.
By the way if you are receiving from Sutton Coldfield then Pick TV etc is on mux Ch45 (match being BBC1 on Ch43) if though you are using The Wrekin then Pick TV is on mux Ch 44 (BBC1 Ch26)
The mux channel should be indicated on the signal check screen along with the strength / quality.
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9:48 PM
I can not get BBC or ITV Local HD TV News In Norfolk
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Graham: Nobody can!!
BBC One HD has one feed nationally and ITV1 HD has about four or five. Those regions for which there is no ITV1HD get the nearest one.
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1:49 PM
I have several elderly neighbours They watch there TV using buttons. 1to5 they dont have hd just freeview what numbers will they need to get the ordinary channels if 1to5 are going to be hd channels
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terry beddow: The HD services will move to 101 to 105 and the five main standard definition channels will remain on logical channel numbers 1 to 5.
If they watch only these channels, then there is probably no need to retune on 17th.
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2:05 PM
Thanks for the information david I'll try the tv for them on wednesday if they do need retuning I will do it then the last time they callled out a TV engineer and he charged for it
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11:39 AM
Potters Bar
Are you sure BBC News and Sky News are changing, as this week's and next week's Radio Times are still showing 80 and 81. The HD channels have been altered from the 50s to the 100s, although 102 has been printed below both BBC2 and BBC HD listings.
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Brian's: mapB's Freeview map terrainB's terrain plot wavesB's frequency data B's Freeview Detailed Coverage
Brian Aldridge: The above explanation does not say that the News channels are moving on 17th October. They will move when "General Entertainment" reaches greater capacity:
"The Children's and News channel numbers will move on the Wednesday that follows 16 weeks after LCN 65 is allocated (ie when the General Entertainment genre nears full capacity). In the event that the move date falls during a change freeze then the move would take effect on the Wednesday that follows the end of the change freeze."
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