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Freeview reception at NE16 4LU


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Tuesday, 9 June 2015
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M. Roberts
10:23 AM

I use the same aerial ,using a three way connection, I have lost itv on all TVs but am able to connect to hd itv on the main TV . How can this be rectified.

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Dave Lindsay
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11:24 AM

M. Roberts: So you are missing ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, ITV2, Channel 4+1 and a few others then?

Your location is imperative as this relates to a reception issue. Judging by your previous postings you are in Llay. Is this correct?

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Andy
6:03 PM
Frodsham

Freeview Reception Problems

Hi all

Need some advice please, we are getting intermittent Interference resulting in the TV picture breaking up and making the most horrid noises, it is worse at night time most nights!

We have had an ongoing Aerial saga now for a month, it has cost us hundreds of pounds and still we can not watch TV without interference.

We have had Filters fitted, Mast Head Amp (made it worse!) Screened Coax Sockets, Webro HD100 cable fitted, F connectors used where ever possible and a Triax LTE Unix 52 T Aerial with built-in LTE Filter mounted on the chimney Stack and after all this we still have interference.

We are now operating on just the Triax aerial and the Webro cable and that seems to be as good as we can get, but not good enough for my liking.

We are using the Winter Hill transmitter and we live in Cheshire, WA6 0NJ.

We are located on the top of a hill and we have sight from our house to the Winter Hill Transmitter looking north and the Moel y Parc transmitter looking west, we appear to be closer to Moel y Parc transmitter than Winter Hill as the lights look much brighter from hear on Moel y Parc at night lol.

I am losing the will with Freeview and I am so close to giving up and calling Sky!

I have tried everything, I turned everything off in the house and I mean everything! to make sure it wasn't something local causing it and that made no difference, we are rural village and sadly we don't have things such as 4G or 3G for that matter so I guess we can rule that out.

I last had a guy hear yesterday who installed the Triax aerial and mounted it higher and he got a good reading from the Winter Hill Transmitter but sadly last night and today we are still having interference.

Would the issue of interference go away if I was to have the aerial pointing at Moel y Parc? would it be as simple as that? is it just my house don't like the Winter Hill Transmitter?

This village is a signal nightmare for everything, Phones, radio its all rubbish! it very much depends on what house you live in, Vodaphone works on one side of the hill but not the other as an example.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated before I chuck any more money at it!





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Dave Lindsay
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8:02 PM

Andy: A wind turbine, maybe? (Although the aerial installer would surely have seen it!)

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MikeB
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9:07 PM

Andy: Starting from first principles - did you have decent recepetion before, what transmitter did you use, and when did the problem start?

Your system seems to have been completely replaced, so thats not it, and you've seemed to have turned off any other source of interference.

Dave Lindsay is right - if there was a turbine, then it would have been spotted!

Although you say your village is a nightmare for recepetion of phones, etc, your on top of a hill, with clear line of sight to the transmitter. In fact you have seemingly very good reception to several.

One thought did occur. Can you check that your actually tuned into the correct transmitter, and what the signal strength is. If you have got HD100 cable, a booster, F fittings, etc, then you potentially have a very good signal. Perhaps its too good!

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Wednesday, 10 June 2015
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jb38
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12:42 AM

Andy: Apart from anything else said, you should also keep in mind that engineering work is presently being carried out at the Winter Hill transmitter, the work having started on the 8th, a notice to this effect of "possible weak signal" having been posted on the engineering page.

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Andy
2:09 PM

Andy:
Thanks guys for all the info, much appreciated.

There are no wind turbines local to us and yes the system has been completed renewed, renewed with the best I could afford.

We have only lived here in this house for two months, having said that we have lived in this village for years and have only move to the top of the hill, down at our old house we had two aerials, one to Winter Hill and one to Moel y Parc, we use the Moel y Parc for BBC One as it was week at our old house from Winter Hill.

Even though here at the new house we have only one aerial pointing to Winter Hill we still get the Moel y Parc transmissions which are up in the 800s.

I have checked the info and the signal is 92% and the quality is 90% and we are tuned to Winter Hill transmitter.

Is the there to much signal?

Thanks for the info regarding engineering work but this has been ongoing for two months now!

we do have great line of sight to both Winter Hill and Moel y Parc, you can see both masts from this house at night with there long reaching red lights climbing into the air.

I really don't know what else I can have done, there is another Transmitter local to us at Elton but it is only a relay, we purchased a new Freeview full HD smart TV 6 weeks ago to enjoy HD but you cant enjoy much when the TV is sounding like it does and the picture is blocking.

Not sure this is of any help but BBC Three is defo the worst affected channel


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Andy
2:11 PM

PS my Post says I am in Frodsham but I am not! I am 6 miles south west towards Chester.

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MikeB
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2:53 PM

Andy: Unfortunately, you can have too much signal, and here is a whole page about it:

Freeview signals: too much of a good thing is bad for you

92% is really high - my Sony PVR was on 93% with very occasional breakup, but a lot of tuners are less forgiving, sich as Panasonics. 75% is more than fine.

I hate to break it to you, but your problem sounds like the signal strength was too high for your equipment (what is it?), and that possibly caused the breakup of the picture. Getting high quality cable, a new aerial and F fittings may have actually made the problem worse (the booster would certainly have done). Remember that you can actually see the transmitters - so your signal was always going to be good, looking at the terrain plot and Digital UK's page. I suspect that your old house was lower down with perhaps low signal strength, and so you thought that the new house had the same problem.

The Moel channels in the 800's is what TV's ect do when they find an alternative transmitter, and you can actually use them if you like. However, they might not be strong enough to record from. Dave Lindsay and myself both have Sony PVR's which have robust but sensitive tuners. They can actually pull in signals from a whole host of transmitters, but at such little strength that nothing records, and it took a 12db filter for this problem to mostly fix itself in my case.

I bought some of these things: 12dB Coax Plug Inline ATTENUATOR: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

Really cheap, and they work. Your best buying a mixture of different strengths, and trying one that works. If you need more, then you can put them in series. They actually fit togeather, and all you need is an extra aerial lead at one end so there is not strain on any sockets. There are variable ones, but it didn't work for me.

This might no be the answer, but you've got very little to lose by buying perhaps eight pounds worth of attentuators and giving it a go.





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Tim H
3:04 PM
Dunoon

Hi. I'm in line of sight to the Rosneath transmitter, which is across the Clyde Estuary. Aerial on the roof. Not too sure how many splits are in the feed as we are in a block of 10 flats and there are 3 aerials on the roof. We have 4 aerial sockets in the flat, and I have been assured that there is a splitter/booster which splits our signal into these 4. On our main TV, I can receive most Freeview channels, apart from C54 and C60. These latter two have a signal strength of about 40-50% but a bit error rate of 2000+ making the picture unwatchable. Other channels have 45-75% strength and 0 bit error rate with a good picture. I've checked for interference (washing machine, fridge, central heating etc) but nothing seems to affect the results. The TV in the bedroom can pick up C60 no problem but as it isn't HD can't receive C54. Any thoughts?

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