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BBC sounds music Radio podcasts this week we have very different views on the revamp of the Radio 4 schedule some or cold BBC and horrified of journalists will have more time to talk about themselves, but licence fee payers won't has been a Bane of my life for many years is here with me to explain why you felt the need to press the refresh button recent interview with the chancellor has been a hot Topic in the feedback inbox this week.

It's been hailed as a fresh air really have I been so impressed with the quality and tenacity of an interview but also as bad-tempered and unprofessional it was clearly an expression of a personal political opinion.

More forceful views on that interview coming up a little later, but first Radio 4 is refreshing it scheduled.

It stated aim is to give listeners more of what they want when I wanted the new schedule kicks in from April 1st and it will be in 1-hour time for a number of programs the media show food programme and file on 4 or get longer slots tweet of the day the morning birdsong at 6 a.m.

Is being act on weekdays a number of programs are moving around and some are going all together feedback switches from Friday's to Thursday at 3:30 this Sunday slots remains the same book of the week will be on at 11:45 each weekday instead of 945 and 1 move that's already been trailed the Archers on ice on Sunday switching with additions of Desert Island Discs and the reunion that's already provoked a lot of listener comment Bruce pricking Radio 4 addict from Devon

The reunion at two of my favourite programs, why are they moving to 10 a.m.

On a Sunday it's totally the wrong time hello my name is Paddy page.

I can't I'm going to do something.

I've been listening to it for 60 years omnibus edition of The Archers what is going on here who is crazy idea just to move it.

Why didn't you give us a thought on this? Why didn't you put it out for you? Must be attending sales BBC and horrified from rural, Oxfordshire thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you buying of my life for many years and the theme tune at least in my house gets no further than Jane from Devon I'm 76 and have been listening for half a century to Radio 4 have I really got to go and buy a smartphone to listen to BBC sounds that's in caring extra expense at a time when Felix

So expensive for joining night is the Radio 4 controller for Kaya thank you so much for joining us some feedback.

This it seems to be like these are quite changes in the schedule from April does look quite different from the current one.

It's quite an overhaul why he done it like this.

I'm not sure it's no record in the way that if you go back coming those with longer as well.

Which is most for ready for listeners will know James Boyle had a quite a dramatic overhaul the Radio 4 schedule, which is the schedule that essentially I inherited and my predecessors to and most of that majority that stays in place.

We're not messing around with that we actually want people to find the programs I expect to find in the places that they always have and we have to be really careful about this stuff over 3200 Cent as sensitive an important to respect the schedule and respect people's relationship with it, so we have made some tweaks and some changes and that's because it's since I arrived as controller 2019.

Beach market for audience changed so dramatically podcasting has exploded onto the scene.

We've got other station starting speech audio some that has had an impact on radio listening and so what we try to do here is to respond to a lot of all this research.

We obviously haven't done this going in blind we have tried talk to a lot to audiences, but try to do certain things to give the coordinates essentially give them the presents I really like the right time to put those programs in high-profile.

Stop say things like food things like health.

You know I think I find out for much higher up the schedule to put a time from people are motivated to listen.

We try to put more joy in escaping in the morning particularly because we know how grim the news agenda can be on we know that people are saying to us.

We need a bit more respite from that and so things that add to playlist and got this cultural life and we giving longer to certain things that we really feel deserve them so the media Show on and many others that we've just.

Play around with more time for documentary series and so on which is all about I think giving the couriers what they want but also trying to make a schedule little bit easier, but lighter listeners to navigate to find the stuff.

They want as well for linear radio for those people listening to Radio 4 as it goes I have been on a downward trend you talk about people what they want.

Are you also hoping that you'll be able to stand that flow and grow the audience.

Well.

I mean you're right and that such as you're all I think people are on the radio stations are experience what I think we have to try and do is give people as good a reason to carry on listening to Linear schedule as possible so remember over 9 million people listen to Radio 4 every week through the earlier schedule.

That is a extra much bigger than any other speech station and it is so important that we do.

Bring people into this wonderful Enchanted Forest as I refer to it before where they can bump into contact.

They didn't know they were going to bump into me one of the things I think with the rise of podcasting it so people can find Echo chambers of the things I really love it.

Where can I find stuff where they're going to hear things that they may not agree with but may actually changed her mind where they're going to hear things that you didn't know they were interested in until I heard them finish on matters and that's why these changes are coming in because I do want people to carry on listening live to Radio 4 night in terms of those audience figures.

Are there as a question for you.

Is it true that every time I cosy national decades-long established schedule like Sunday morning Radio 4 gets changed the BBC loses lots of listeners, and if so, why isn't the job of BBC controllers to maintain and increase the audience is often and this is true Gear4Music

Initial dip but as in most cases what you see if you get the changes write the overtime that dip is reversed and people start to response and you said you couldn't remember when you're dealing with the schedule as complicated as Radio 4.

It's never going to when you're talking about how many people be perfect for everyone it can't be and so having a universal schedule.

Everyone's moods and needs is impossible and all you try and do the best you can for the majority of people and that's all be trying to do.

We took quite a lot about the rise of and listening online BBC signs or Elsewhere and we've touched on that today already is the loss of listeners to Radio 4 entirely offset by the downloads and listens that you're getting from PC science has it in tiny of the decline probably.

Not no, I don't think so because for the reasons.

I was saying earlier the mockers fragmented and many more are many more podcasts register.

Listen to lots of people running away from news, so they're going to music so I think there has been a decline generally and listening speech audio but the good news from our point of view if you look at someone big brands for the Arches or in our time is really important programs the number of his millions and millions and millions of people I can see you in these now on demand.

Where is before they might only listen to the life, so when you were thinking about this new schedule and you have brought in some new programmes.

Are you always thinking about the strategy for signs? Are you always looking for a podcast friendly format know we have it would be absolutely of certain things everything is needing to serve the sounds of it doesn't even your flagship news program today.

Spend a lot of across from eating its new podcast.

Do you know and I wonder how you feel about that someone most successful podcast and radio programmes elsewhere I do thrive on opinionated presenters.

You know the BBC's commitment to impartiality precludes that kind of opinion on podcasts.

Do you feel your hands were tied hands are tired? I think we have absolutely clear and rather important commitment impartiality and I think the podcast absolutely the same line than the mothership programs in every morning.

I think it's Evermore and particularly now predicting the future election year that Radio 4 is giving the audience proper in that you have to have an audience as you have to have listened and of course of course to podcasts to have a slightly different tone and slightly more friend anymore conversational and an actually what they do they going in depth in a way that there's a program 269 of money can't do they take and we can spend a bit more time with it.

That's the reason the podcast is there no, that's mean to say that people went to find things I disagree with but I cannot say this enough one of the things when you get a couple of huge.

If you are going to bump into things you disagree with that's part of the point you will not here just to serve you a couple of reflection of your own opinions and views that's not our job our job is to tell you evidence base troops even one that you may not like and the podcast is in the temperature.

Go bit deeper doing exactly the same thing when he acts Radio 4 theme tune which started the day everyday for 33 years.

You are nice accent tweet of the day which is a lot of people wake up from there alarm goes off before 6 Monday to Friday it's dangerous move well.

We're not texting actually wear for the first time in a long time being originating new tweet of the day on a Sunday we've been Monday to Friday it's gone back to find me because we think it's important right now to give for me stay as much time as possible, but we've been repeating Twitter

We haven't been able to afford to run it 5 days a week for quite a while to these have not been originations.

They've been repeat what we now doing is putting new recordings on a Sunday we haven't been able to do 6 day 7-days a week now as I mentioned a lot of changes that listeners won't be aware of yet.

The one that was announced in advance and a lot of listeners contacted us abide was the matches on Sunday we had Patti page for with her concerns and many Archer listeners have said we weren't given a thought Harry Turnbull from Cheshire said I would like to ask the controller if it is the BBC Radio to make unilateral decisions and deal with the Fallout afterwards rather than engaging with it's audience from the start of the audience audience research cancer research Consulting the audience.

We we find out we look at audience listening behaviour and we also talk to people and what that research said is that.

For those people a considerable number of people listen to Radio 4 who aren't of archers aficionados what they told us was that the transition from Broadcasting House news pro into the Archers was Tony tricky for them and desert on a disk with a much smoother transition and of course the Archers then popped up straight after that so we're not losing the Archers from Sunday more.

That's really important, but my job our job is to make sure that people stay with radio for particular on a Sunday morning and if you want the Archers at 10 you can still get it there and sounds good night early on Sunday so they have contacted us to say that they don't have BBC signs.

They don't have a smart phone and they do want to listen to The Archers at 10.

What would you say I really understand.

It's not now particularly with the Archers audience how important the Archers em the place of the Arches for them and we didn't do this slightly we didn't really think about it and really talking to people.

How much is team and they were delighted with them if they said actually we feel is better.

We feeling moving closer to lunchtime so because both lunchtime conversation and remember.

It's only 11:00 is an emu a little bit and also we are putting in the repeat of the Friday Archers on Saturday afternoon.

So you actually much every day of the week now another slots that many listeners when they realised that it may feel disrupt their schedule and disrupts their day is book of the week switching from 9:45.

Why did you decide to do that every morning book of the week is Prime reading books published and you know in the world where we now have audio books that innovation when it came in book the week.

Is it feels different now to landscape that you can get books and other places having said that.

We're only move it to 11:45 is still there, but he gives us at pressures between 9 and 10 to put programme making a

Volume journalism in and the only thing we are also doing is we're investing more original writing because I think as radio 4S cultural patron one of the responsibilities.

We have in our own writing and we've got some exciting writers that we're commissioning.

We mainly putting published books in there will also be doing better and commissioning as well and we have feedback are also moving here.

It's what Terry from Portsmouth had to say I see that some such as the media show are to be lengthened and I know the feedback itself is not such a program so an assortment of journalist will have more time to talk about themselves, but not licence fee payers the media show is also on their almost 52 weeks a year on the other hand feedback has only just returned from it's Christmas break I get the impression that view and listeners comment programmes of treated as a chore which has to be undertaken by BBC managers if they bother that is the first I was taking you with the idea that meteor shower.

The journalist Media show is actually an incredibly important problem of the time where the Tech Giants hold so much power at the time with this information is such an issue and defects and AI on all the rest of it.

I thought that actually having an hour-long Media so it can really get into the global Media seen the way it has an impact on our democracy was an important thing to do after that of course feedback important program, and I've always been a champion of be back now with the bed when I was coming out.

I would always try and courage my colleagues to come on it, but it was very importantly did so and I've tried to tap in it as well.

It must the Thursday that's actually as big an audience not slightly bigger than it has on Friday but the repeat is still on Sunday evening as it always has been and still remains an incredibly important.

Thank you so much for joining us at on feedback my pleasure to know what you think about these schedule changes and the reasons for them you hearing.

The 1st of April so please do let us know you can email us on feedback at bbc.co.uk you can leave us a voice message or send a WhatsApp voice note though 334544 on social media.

It's at BBC R4 feedback.

What about the millions of people who result of fiscal drag are going to be paying significantly more by the end of this Parliament they were at the start of this Parliament they call you the fiscal drag queen of British politics and with good reason the net effect of your time and what is a clip of a particularly feisty interview conducted by amol Rajan with the Chancellor Jeremy Hunt last week, but this one attracted more headlines than most possibly because of a moles use of the phrase fiscal drag queen in reference to Jeremy Hunt's economic policies.

Say that the interview provoked mixed reactions from feedback listeners.

Hi this is Keith Johnston with the BBC on the frequent attack from the government this was hardly the time to get such a disrespectful and bad-tempered interview.

It was clearly an expression of a personal political opinion and a such highly unprofessional and wrong in the dances over today interview is there a session with Jeremy Hunt was like a breath of fresh air it's the kind of challenging approach.

That is required when dealing with leading politicians who wanted it typed the terms of the Debate we know who you think the winners where from yesterday whoever loses well in terms of the tax system the people have chosen people in work.

I don't think who the news.

My name is Ian and I live and work in Worcestershire really have I been so impressed with the quality and tenacity of an interview the level of subject understanding was breathtaking.

Hi, I'm Jonathan from Stourbridge in the West Midlands I felt most uncomfortable listening to is questioning and the particular television interview which was most unprofessional.

Where was the impartiality and discipline in this interview you just giving up the British economy is unworthy of the BBC because we have grown faster and the interview with you.

Did really good very well-informed journalists like a mall at the moment someone has to hold the politicians of all parties to account well done.

I'm on this is Graham Cutler from County Durham I'm writing to express my discussed at the presenter on the Today programme referring to the chancellor of the exchequer in his interview as a fish.

Drag queen rock fiscal drag I have any have been called a drag queen before by the way of all but drag queen I found this bottle respectful to sync to this red top gutter journalism is despicable no we did ask them all to come onto feedback and discuss this interview.

We wanted to give him the chance to phone directly to listeners widely different reactions and also to GB beneath the surface and discuss hi presenters approach such high-profile interviews, but we've been told he is available instead today centos this statement as Today programme listeners will expect the interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer was robust challenging and help the government to account to try listeners more clarity on the implications of the budget announced last week.

Magnifying glass the programme features the historian with a crack team of female detective to investigate the crimes of women from the 19th and 20th centuries for making feminist perspective we invited who are also big history fans into a box box to give us their own personal take on the series I'm drinking and I'm at the University of Strathclyde hi.

I'm seeing you when I am also and I work with Jordan who is the backbone of the English to welcome to Ladykillers with me Lucy Worsley from BBC Radio 4 play as always infectious Enthusiasm which is always good to listen to I think that you can tell when someone's enjoyed doing it and it makes it much more fun today.

When you listen to something that someone has enjoyed recording some more fun to listen to I think there is interesting stuff here.

I'm delighted with the idea that people are there any more about the Victorian period even if they're doing it through true crime through murder.

I think scrape from my perspective a 15-year old servant Marianne Parsons lies in bed in one of the millions of golden-farm.

She's dead her emaciated body is horribly battered and bruised it was that presentation of the please done to the girl I'm on the whole I thought it was respectful of the victim.

I really enjoyed it.

I did think having the kind of cries of the victim or the afternoon with the cries of the victim feel a bit kind of Peruvian crying and crying.

And that might be the point that may have been the reason for it.

I did start to feel vs.

Harsh.

I don't like him away from it.

Not knowing her not knowing the victim and this was a human being but really I know it's the format is Ladykillers but I just thought you know the episode is named after Sarah bird takes a little bit before even get the name Perry and persons in the episode and I also thought we know that a lot about the Scrolls death and so little about her life this idea kind of Brothers by Worsley when she says you know a woman a mother committed such a crime as if we can't imagine that women could be violent.

I hope you and stop me as almost I kind of Victorian attitude that was carrying over.

Deletion about maybe she was jealous of her husband being in that was also present here.

Was it is it possible that to me and had to drop the attention even if Sarah's husband in ways that Sarah presented presented.

No evidence that so then it became what what what drives go into violent men jealousy over that has to be romantic in some way and I just start we know nothing about what was going on in that message.

I did it did the question with me which is a big true Crime question which is are we interested in these things for those aspects R&B list for the score for the description of finger nails being ripped out of broken fingers bones protruding itself that probably says more about us then about the program because the Victorians love true Crime as

Sooty digital.co, it's been and always have been I don't know why I should be able to answer because I'm interested in it as well.

Trying books all over the house when I was about 6 years old unsolved crime books and stuff.

I really enjoyed rudykillus.

I thought it was really interesting how it didn't just focus on well-known cases, there are quite a few in there that I had never heard of it was interesting to get something fresh absolutely I really like the dramatisations as well as testimony from the court case I thought the episode closed with this emphasis on the fact that the Victorians are just like us as a victorious.

I feel quite strongly about that and I thought having the voice is brought to Life made that these are people like you can still meet today.

Shocked and horrified by the crime that happens in a minute and producer of Ladykillers Kirsty welcome to feedback.

I think one very significant part of these programs is the way that you draw parallels between the period of history in which the murderer is set and today it must be very important elements in the series that comparison between then and now it's a key part of our former and frankly our approach on this is we want to hear the voices of women and then we are talking about this show Lucy actually came with a drawing that she made and they were 6th Dixon at that we live by to this day which were that we have to hear the voices of women and we have to have words that they themselves spoke so I think we are quite different from the usual true Crime podcast in that we very much focus on a female point of view.

Little concerned that they knew more about the probable killer Sarah Bird than about the victim.

I know that's a common complaint I wonder if you think it's fair in this case that show is called Ladykillers it's not called lady x and of course the victims are important and of course we want to talk about them and you know pay homage to their lives and make sure they're not forgotten but we're trying to do is tell the story of one person's life and why they did what they did not listed also picked up on the part of the episode in which it was suggested that Sarah was jealous of the seven girls relationship with her husband start speculation as they thought or was it actually based on anything more than that was that guest detective the incredible Baroness Helena Kennedy and she postulated that this could have been the case are the plenty more Ladykillers out there for four more programs.

Certainly is more Ladykillers but actually for the next series we are switching our Focus to lady swindlers in the Hustler's at the earlier back actually we're going back to the 18th century as well as fascinating very good luck with that and thank you very much indeed for coming on feedback and sharing that with us very much well.

That's all for this week.

Do you remember that you can subscribe? What's on BBC signs and then the program will appear in your feed and you can listen to feedback anytime you like thank you so much for listening and for giving us your feedback goodbye.

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