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CAI and RDI-LB to merge?

Robert posts that "the two main bodies dealing with TV aerials will be tying up as the CAI (Confederation of Aerial Industries) is thought to be taking over the RDI-LB (Registered Digital Installers-Licensing Body)"

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Following meetings between Tim Jenks and Robert Oliver of the CAI with Martin Smith of the RDI, the CAI may take over the running of the RDI admin after Martin leaves later this year.

Sheila Cassells the RDI-LB chair has given the green light to discussions with the CAI to take over the administrative control of the RDI as an initial step.

Bearing in mind the recent problems the CAI has had with its own administration and the protracted problems regarding its executive, this could come as a shock to those RDIs who chose to opt for the RDI-LB as a Government backed alternative to the CAI as they may find that they are being thrown back in with the "old Guard"

Discussions are rumoured to be quite advanced following an initial meeting last year, both organisations seemingly being concerned that after DSO (Digital Switch Over ) neither will be exactly overwhelmed with members and maybe a tie up between them both will ensure the continuation of both schemes. Albeit run and possibly controlled by the same people

Originally the CAI had expected to be the chosen ones for DSO but that was smashed with the creation of the RDI-LB and the early days saw some acrimony between the two competing organisations, the onset of DSO saw both benefit from a large influx of paying members especially the RDI-LB who went from nothing in 2006 to a potent organisation able to offer a 'recognised qualification' with the benefit of Government ( BERR ) backing, hundreds of installers signed up to the scheme, the CAI for its part introduced various modifications and enhancements including the CAI plus scheme to counter the attraction of the RDI-LB, although many felt the CAI was playing a game of catch up and always lagged behind the field, the CAI managed to increase its members and thanks in no small part to training fees and various benchmark fees greatly increased its income.

With the end of DSO in sight it is not surprising that both organisations are looking at the future with both a bleaker and more practical outlook, with no real prospect of any public funds, the only way to survive is to pool resources, although possibly not fees.

Both management teams will be carefully looking over the figures and working out a way to keep the schemes running and the revenue coming in from the less prosperous membership following DSO.

The CAI already run the admin of the SCTE so adding another tier shouldn't in theory pose any logistical problems, but how well that will go down with those RDIs who opted out of the CAI or were never prepared to join is another matter, the recent past of the CAIs management has hardly been plain sailing and there are many members who having been glad to be out of the clutches of the CAI, the news that they may be put straight back in without so much as a by your leave may not please and could even infuriate some.

It seems that both the CAI and the RDI are set on a path of unity at least as far as the administration goes, it may even be a done deal and that they are just waiting the right day for the announcement.

How that will be viewed by the Members, the authorities or the public is another matter, although they may have little choice.

Update: 31 January 2011 letter from RDI-LB


Recently it came as a surprise to hear that 'advanced discussions' about the future operations and direction, of both the Confederation of Aerial Industries (CAI) and the RDI have been sanctioned by the RDI Chair, Sheila Cassells, and that the RDI-LB's Managing Director, Martin Smith, is leaving the organisation.

To set the record straight, the RDI-LB is committed to maintaining a register of licensed installers/engineers beyond 2012 and is expanding both skills and training platforms to support this. Further Martin Smith is heavily involved in leading a development programme, which will take the RDI-LB and its qualified membership far beyond the end of digital switchover. This has the full backing of the Department of Business Innovation and Skills and is the only development project sanctioned by the RDI-LB Board and its Chair.

As you would expect, the RDI-LB consults regularly with many industry bodies, including the CAI, to ensure that the interests of its members and the general public are maintained. The RDI has a strong standing as a Community Interest, not for profit organisation and has no plans to join forces with or become part of any separate organisation.

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Monday, 31 January 2011
paul jewell
12:47 AM

the rdi did not get the take up they expectd, so now the jobs for the boys, are not looking to good, any way who needs them what use are they most of them could not fit a light bolb let alone an aerial system so looks like they may have to find another scam shame!!!!

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paul jewell's 2 posts GB
9:15 AM

Cabled Communications Ltd: I've copied the letter to the top article for clarity. Thanks for that.

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Briantist's 38,786 posts Owner Owner GB
Thursday, 3 February 2011
Cabled Communications Ltd
8:09 AM

response to Paul Jewell:
I have to disagree with Pauls comments. The fact is almost anyone who is physically able can fit an aerial but maybe not correctley. That is a problem in our industry because anyone in with a van, a ladder and a few tools can jump on the bandwagon and call themselves a aerial installer. Having an organisation that requires its members to prove they have enough experience, insurance and are accountable to someone can only be a good thing. Until the RDI-LB was formed the only other option was CAI. Competion for the CAI has been a good thing too, although they have been slow to respond to it. As for the take of RDI-LB membership it is my understanding that in the short time they have been formed they have surpassed CAI membership by some margin, that alone tells its own story. Also if you where to ask 1000 people if they have heard of the CAI or the RDI most would say they know of the RDI and again in my experience very few have heard of the CAI.

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Cabled Communications Ltd's 7 posts GB
Monday, 7 February 2011
Mark Aberfan Aerials
10:13 AM

Hi all,
The CAI have also denied this, see here,
- The Internet & Forum ?EUR~Rumour Mill?EUR(TM) -
Mark Aberfan Aerials

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Mark Aberfan Aerials's 1,059 posts Gold Gold GB
1:00 PM

Mark Aberfan Aerials: Thanks for that. I'm so glad I put that question mark on the end of the article title.

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Briantist's 38,786 posts Owner Owner GB
Sunday, 20 February 2011
3:43 PM

Hi all,
I have been thinking of joining one of these associations. It would be great to get
some questions answered first.How much are their yearly fees? Are they not for profit
organisations ?. Do they publish their yearly
accounts to show their profit and where the money is spent?Surely if CAI OR RDI are all
about standards for the public benifit then
they should be non profit.

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alan's 3 posts IE
Mark Aberfan Aerials
8:55 PM

Hi Alan,

You should bear in mind that one way some "not for profit" outfits, avoid making profits is to award themselves very large pay packets & very nice expense accounts, (much like MP's) I'm not covinced that "not for profit" equates with "for the public good"

Mark Aberfan Aerials

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Mark Aberfan Aerials's 1,059 posts Gold Gold GB
Monday, 21 February 2011
6:12 AM

Mark Aberfan Aerials: Much like the "Chuggers" (Charity Muggers) who are employed by a company on behalf of the so-called-Charities they work for, who claim to want people to donate, but actually want their wages paid as usually the first years worth of contributions are required to pay their wages.

No only is this not charity (a word that means "love" in Middle English), it circumvents the Charities Act which people who volunteer to collect cash from the public.

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Briantist's 38,786 posts Owner Owner GB
Wednesday, 23 February 2011
12:35 AM


Im in Dublin Ireland , up to now there hasn't been an association here, but one has just started up, ISAA, irish satellite and aerial association.This could be a good thing for professional installers and If it gains credibility with installers and the public alike it will become a very strong organisation.
MY FEAR is that the yearly fee could keep going up, once they get a hold.Has that been the experience over there.What do CAI and BDI charge?If CAI was only starting up now what questions would you ask them? tks

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alan's 3 posts IE
Thursday, 3 March 2011
12:46 AM

well done in the cricket lads.

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