Chris,JB: Thanks for latest advice,and I will stop apologizing,just so appreciative of your. Have to admit to needing some chill-out time with all this and forgetting about Ch59 ;-) However, I will endeavor to muster the confidence to try the rather Amateur flex into the co-ax socket. Will deal with it tomorrow, I promise and report back...along with getting an (set-top) to try. The neighbour next door with the -, is a 90 year old lady, so could be difficult trying to ask her to assist with anything. But you guys are so knowledgeable, I'm sure I will conquer whatever it is with your help.

SIMON: I sympathize completely, lucky I say you've been away for a couple of days, at least you have escaped the continuing saga of the lost ch59. And Ch60 also giving you problems, gosh how awful. Digital is NOT all it's cracked up to be..well not for us anyway.

Suzanne

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Hi Chris, JB,

Guess who again! I think I may have made a bit of "girly faux pas" as I completely missed the fact there were two tv's in my house. Bare with me ( and yes, I'm about to apologize again) but I feel so stupid not to have mentioned it, let alone thought about it. But now I've broken the news, here is my latest update on the elusive Ch59.

The two Tv's are using the same through the (spur connection) for the sake of this posting, Tv1 ( living room) lost all after , hence no Ch59. However, this morning I checked Tv2 (bedroom) and all channels were received perfectly, including ch59 ( hoo rah) in fact it picked up a total of 101 channels ( radio inc in that I presume) So swapped the TV that was working perfectly to living room, lost all channels again, no Ch59. Took the living room TV to the bedroom, re-tuned and ALL the channels were picked up. The swapping of TV's and rooms were to decipher if it was the TV's tuner or the aerial connection.

So my thoughts are: it's the aerial cable or connection that that carries the , and not either TV. Do this is making sense.

My question is now, is it possible the aerial before was suffice, but with increased signal power and being so close to , could there have been a surge that caused some malfunction in the main TV1? I'm about to renew all the aerial co-ax cable and connections, do you recommend any particular type or does it not really matter?

I wonder if Simon has looked at his co-ax aerial cable and connections - just a thought! Once again thanks for your continued support and advice. I look forward to your reply.

Thank you.
Suzanne

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Yes Chris, it was pretty dumb of me to overlook the two tv's...but as I say, a girly faux pas, and hopefully all is forgiven. Going to check the "spur" connection, but frankly just want to nip Wicks or Homebase and get a new ( not aerial) and get connected again.

May even be able to enjoy a G&T watching all those lifestyle women's programs tonight. :-)

Will report back shortly.

Suzanne

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Thursday 6 October 2011 3:46PM
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Chris:

The "spur" is a Co-ax two way splitter. Not much more I can add, as that's it's description.

Suzanne

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Chris: I've already tried an "attenuator" but that proved no whatsoever. But as discovered it's NOT the , or too higher strength as the two tv's I have pick up all when in the bedroom, but not in the living room, which indicates the "" is at fault leading to the living room being connected by the two way splitter. The cable in the bedroom is fine, signals get through perfectly and recieve Ch59. Which is why I'm going to change the co-ax aerial cable and connections, a cheap and hopefully affective result will be the outcome.

Thanks.
Suzanne

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Chris: Just picked up your message about swapping the two leads - will do within next few minutes and let you know the outcome.

Thanks so much.
Suzanne

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Chris: Cheap plastic splitter with no indicators or arrows on it. Swapping the leads as I type..

Suzanne

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Hi Chris: Suz here, I am indeed sipping a large G&T whilst trying to contain my excitement..NO I've not fallen through the or ceiling as I had a friend to climb the heights of the ladder - Not too good with heights nor realizing I have two tv's in house. I feel I've won the lottery, I have ALL my working perfectly, including the "elusive Ch59" HOO RAH!! Yippee..:-)))) Amazing result.

Before the G&T(s) start to take affect and I'm unable to make any sense at all, I shall try to explain what the problem was, or I think it was. Are you sitting comfortably.

It appeared the co-ax to the bedroom was a aerial cable, as the core was copper and quite substantial - then looking at the aerial cable connected to the Tv in the living room, I realized they looked different. The wire in this cable was like a piece of cotton, and not copper. A basic, cheap cable and not designed for Digital I suspect. I could be wrong, and that it doesn't matter. Only I should imagine the signals working on were so much lower that a cheap flimsy analogue aerial cable wouldn't matter. Also the connections into the "spur" in the loft ( splitter) I was told was slightly lose on one side - YES, the side that came into my living room. So new digital aerial cable, plus new splitter and connectors for TV and spur in loft - Re-tuned and hey presto like magic ALL channels are back.

I can't believe just how ecstatic I am, how much we take for granted when everything is working well. Evidently not the new outdoor aerial or my new TV - or indeed weaker signals for Ch59, but down to equipment I hadn't even thought about checking. Which ALL thanks MUST GO TO YOU for all your advice, patience and over these last few days (weeks)I really do appreciate it, and of course JB too.

Just poured you a large G&T..so enjoy it virtually, not quite the same, but don't they say it's the thought that counts ;-)

Oh yes, I wonder should Simon check his aerial cable and connections, anyway just a thought..

A BIG thank you!
Suzanne

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JB: Thanks for your message. I should have made more of a personal thank you to you as well, it was only that I was communicating with Chris today. I didn't enter my mind not to report back. How awful that some may do this after all the they receive. I'm very grateful!

22.33 and I've lost the again, well they are pixelating. Not too worried, as all the channels are showing in the channel setting line up, whereas they were'nt before. My thoughts, it could be the weather, it's quite windy outside and rain has been heavy this evening. Will see what it's like tomorrow morning - and yes, I will report back if any problems still exist.

Oh yes, I have noted that there is warnings about weather conditions for , aerials etc, that snow, wind,rain etc can affect. Hmm, if that's the case the UK is not going to be watching much TV over the coming months. Surely someone should look into this, as our viewing shouldn't be reliant upon having good weather. This is the UK!

SIMON: When you read this post, you will note I've lost them again, hopefully only temporarily. Now to you - The I changed was much thinner than the digital one i have now. Also the old cable had lots of thin copper strands when peeled back, but the inner central wire was NOT copper and it too was very thin, like one strand of silver wire. Digital cable has copper wiring and what seems like a copper rod for it's center, so quite different.

I you can resolve this, as it's so frustrating and you feel it's all beyond your power to control. Still think digital seems very temperamental. Keep us posted.

Once again thanks JB.

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Friday 7 October 2011 10:57AM
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CHRIS: Good morning!

Thanks for update about cables etc. The pixelating was only on Ch59,(Dave, Really, Pick,Challenge etc) every other channel was perfect. Which is why I happily sipped my way through a couple of G&T's looking forward to full viewing pleasure today on Ch59, and guess what I was right - just tried them all, and the is perfect on all of them. So as you explained, with the lower on Ch59 until April 2012 is it..if the weather is really bad it might affect (Pick,Dave, really,etc)which seems to be the case with the heavy wind and rain of last night.

Will keep in touch if anything more to report. Until then, thank you.

Suzanne.

PS. Good luck Simon with resolving your Ch59 problem.

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