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Watlingfen: except, of course, that Radio 4 was a mixture of programmes from the Home Service and Light Programme.

And radio 3 was already the Third Programme.

And the branding was such a failure that it has already lasted for nearly half a century.

ITV is bound by Contract Rights Renewal due to market domination in adverting and can't offer ITV regions outside the broadcast area.

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Not sure if we really want to get in to why ALL radio broadcasts want to switch of AM and FM again.

It's not spectrum, it is the expense.

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Why not follow the link above that I have already posted the answer to community radio charges?

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Watlingfen: the link and quote above is for FM. Which hasn't been used for TV in the UK for at least 30 years.. Black and white days, VHF bands I and III television | ukfree.tv - 11 years of independent, free digital TV advice

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And... It has been stated policy for some years that FM will be used for community non profit radio once BBC and commercial station are digital only.

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Watlingfen: can I suggest you do some reading?

Life on Air: A History of Radio Four by Hendy, David is an excellent read and great for getting your facts straight. - see Life on Air: A History of Radio Four eBook: David Hendy: Amazon.co.uk: Kindle Store

Even Wikipedia knows
Woman's Hour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :

"Created by Norman Collins and originally presented by Alan Ivimey the programme was first broadcast on 7 October 1946 on the BBC's Light Programme (now called Radio 2).It was transferred to its current home in 1973"

Or The Archers The Archers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia :

"Since January 1, 1951, five 15-minute episodes (since 1998, six 12.5-minute episodes) have been transmitted each week, at first on the BBC Light Programme"

Round the Horne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia as an example of comedy

"Round the Horne was a BBC Radio comedy programme, transmitted in four series of weekly episodes from 1965 until 1968. Home station BBC Light Programme"

Any Questions? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was initially broadcast nationally on the BBC Light Programme ... has gone out exclusively on Radio 4 since 10 April 1970.

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Right, going back to "BROADCASTING IN THE SEVENTIES" which is the BBC plan that renamed the networks.

The numbering was used because the existing names were not useful. Both the Home and Light programmes were mixtures of speech and music radio, and the Third programme was also used for Sports broadcasts.

In addition, the BBC were starting their local radio services.

And, as I said, the branding for BBC radio has lasted since 1969, which is hardly a failure.

There has never been a "Commercial Television Act", perhaps you are reffering to the "Television Act 1954" or one of the "Broadcasting Act 1980", "Broadcasting Act 1981" or "Broadcasting Act 1990"?

"the laws controlling contract rights and regional advertising haven't changed for years"

Silly you, you missed out on CCR - the remedy put in place when Carlton and Granda merged to form ITV plc - CRR explained: how contract rights renewal binds ITV ad sales | Media | theguardian.com Ofcom | Review of the Contract Rights Renewal Undertakings ITV Statement - Contract Rights Renewal | itvplc Welcome | The Office of the Adjudicator

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There has been little change to the rules on ITV for the amount of adverts - RADA old rules Ofcom | Rules on the amount and distribution of advertising

"The total amount of advertising in any one day must not exceed an average of
seven minutes per hour of broadcasting ... In the periods 6pm11pm and 7am9am the total amount of advertising must not,
without Ofcoms prior permission, exceed an average of eight minutes an hour"

New rules http://stakeholders.ofcom….pdf

"a) on public service channels time devoted to television advertising and
teleshopping spots must not exceed:
i) an average of 7 minutes per hour for every hour of transmission time across
the broadcasting day; and
ii) subject to (i) above, an average of 8 minutes an hour between 6pm and
11pm;"

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"remember several people being confused when BBC 4 and BBC 3 came into operation simply because of confusion with radio 4 and radio 3 and a refusal of BBC to name the BBC TV4 and BBC TV3"

That doesn't really fit the actual facts either.

What is now BBC Three was the evening service of BBC CHOICE. BBC Four was the evening part of the BBC KNOWLEDGE schedule.

There was never ANY discussion about having "TV" in the service names.

The TV services were called "One" and "Two" since 04.10.97 and TVARK | BBC One | 1997 | Idents TVARK | BBC Two | 1997 Idents

Even BBC CHOICE use "three" for it's idents - TVARK | BBC Choice

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From http://downloads.bbc.co.u….pdf ("BBC Engineering No 87 July 1971")

Athough the former Light, Home and Third programmes were often identified as being low-brow, middle-brow and high-brow, radio broadcasting in this country has been traditionally based on a mixed programming principle whereby any single channel offed the public a whole range programmes covering all interest and many levels of brow.

The new plans outlined in Broadcasting in the Seventies were based on a different concept - one of specialised or "generic" networks which experienced both in this country and abroad suggested was more in tune with listening habits...

In essence this mean that Radio 1 would be devoted to pop music, Radio 2 would cater for the light music listeners, Radio 3 would carry mainly serious music and Radio 4 would be strengthened for its role as the speech network carrying the main News and Current Affairs programmes."

I think I rest my case and provide sufficient evidence.

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