All posts by Derek Brabrook
Below are all of Derek Brabrook's postings, with the most recent are at the bottom of the page.
MikeP: SA31 3NL
its definitely line of sight I was originally pointed at
Preseli but Carmel is closer and has an unbroken line
of sight, I profiled it.
The antenna is fed into a Johansson 6600 profiler which
Has had all muxs levelled to within acceptable levels
And then fed to the distribution amplifier
The media server is fed off a 30db atm
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The other mux's are working fine good signal
but 690Mhz (48) is still dead
I'll give them a ring tomorrow
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Roger Mellie:
"You do realise that the transmitter owner has a 24/7 control room monitoring every transmitter constantly? If the COM6 multiplex was off air they would know and would fix it. But its not. Maybe there is an issue very local to you, but its certainly not a transmitter problem."
they use telemetry to monitor I've known broadcast engineers forget to plug a portion of the array in which causes a massive SWR on the front end, shutting down that array module or simply mix up the array pattern profile and turn off a portion of the array, we could be sitting in a massive dead spot.
By the way ..........
I am a fully qualified electronics engineer in both analogue and digital
I am also fully qualified in computing, cryptography and network security
I am also fully qualified in communications.
I am more than comfortable in all technical matters regarding communications,mux's,frequencies,propagation,dual path, multipath, refraction etc, however it's transmitted. I was initially trained in the Royal Corps of Signals in RF, satellite and long haul communications, in frequencies ranging from 1Mhz to many Ghz, using a bewildering array of different methods and antennae.
and if that wasn't enough when I came out of the Royal Corps of Signals I got my first
job as a broadcast engineer.
---------- > I think I know when a channel/mux is down <----------
Now I'm not saying it's down for EVERYONE but it's down where I am and in the locality
and yes my neighbour and two others since are still complaining they've lost channel 48 com6
and I have tried again to re-tune their TV's last night and can confirm channel 48 is dead as a dodo on their
TV's
I've pushed the issue up to the Radio and Television investigation service as freeview and arqiva
were about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
T 490000000 8MHz 2/3 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE # Wales
T 642167000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE
T 602000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QPSK 8k 1/32 NONE
T 754000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QPSK 8k 1/32 NONE
T 546000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QPSK 8k 1/32 NONE
T2 0 AUTO AUTO NONE AUTO AUTO AUTO NONE
T2 0 AUTO AUTO NONE AUTO AUTO AUTO NONE
T 514000000 8MHz 2/3 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE # Wales
T 570000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE # Wales
T 594000000 8MHz 3/4 NONE QAM64 8k 1/32 NONE # Wales
(as you can see there is no 690Mhz if there was it would have been detected and scanned)
so considering I have full and strong signal on ALL of the other muxs/channels, what possible reason could there be for it NOT to detect channel 48 ? other than it's not getting to mine or my neighbours antennas ???
do we ALL have the same fault just on channel 48 on all our dissimilar TV's and equipment and we ALL developed
the exact same fault to stop us from receiving channel 48 directly after the work on the 17th July 2019 ?????
or shall we resort to Occams Razor ?
w_scan -x -c GB > dvbscan.txt
w_scan -x -c GB
w_scan version 20170107 (compiled for DVB API 5.10)
using settings for UNITED KINGDOM
DVB aerial
DVB-T GB
scan type TERRESTRIAL, channellist 6
output format initial tuning data
WARNING: could not guess your codepage. Falling back to 'UTF-8'
output charset 'UTF-8', use -C <charset> to override
Info: using DVB adapter auto detection.
/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 -> TERRESTRIAL "Silicon Labs Si2168": very good :-))
Using TERRESTRIAL frontend (adapter /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0)
-_-_-_-_ Getting frontend capabilities-_-_-_-_
Using DVB API 5.11
frontend 'Silicon Labs Si2168' supports
DVB-T2
INVERSION_AUTO
QAM_AUTO
TRANSMISSION_MODE_AUTO
GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO
HIERARCHY_AUTO
FEC_AUTO
BANDWIDTH_AUTO not supported, trying 6/7/8 MHz.
FREQ (42.00MHz ... 870.00MHz)
-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
Scanning DVB-T...
Scanning 8MHz frequencies...
474000: (time: 00:05.875)
474167: (time: 00:07.911)
473833: (time: 00:10.031)
482000: (time: 00:12.071)
482167: (time: 00:14.115)
481833: (time: 00:16.163)
490000: (time: 00:18.211) signal ok: QAM_AUTO f = 490000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:0)
QAM_AUTO f = 490000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:0) : updating transport_stream_id: -> (0:0:4222)
QAM_AUTO f = 490000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:4222) : updating network_id -> (0:12368:4222)
new transponder: (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544)) 0x405A
already known: (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544)), but not found by pids
QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544) : updating tp ids -> (9018:12368:24640)
new transponder: (QPSK f = 602000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32771)) 0x405A
new transponder: (QPSK f = 754000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32807)) 0x405A
new transponder: (QPSK f = 546000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32814)) 0x405A
new transponder: (QAM_AUTO f = 0 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12368:40960)) 0x4004
new transponder: (QAM_AUTO f = 0 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12368:45056)) 0x4004
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
updating transponder:
(QAM_AUTO f = 490000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:12368:4222)) 0x0000
to (QAM_64 f = 490000 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:4222)) 0x405A
already known: (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:24640)), but not found by pids
QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:24640) : updating tp ids -> (9018:12368:8205)
updating transponder:
(QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:8205)) 0x405A
to (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:8205)) 0x405A
already known: (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:8205)), but not found by pids
QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:8205) : updating tp ids -> (9018:12368:12295)
updating transponder:
(QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:12295)) 0x405A
to (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:12295)) 0x405A
new transponder: (QAM_AUTO f = 0 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12368:16574)) 0x4004
490167: skipped (already known transponder)
489833: skipped (already known transponder)
498000: (time: 00:26.559)
498167: (time: 00:28.615)
497833: (time: 00:30.787)
506000: (time: 00:32.835)
506167: (time: 00:34.883)
505833: (time: 00:36.931)
514000: (time: 00:38.979) signal ok: QAM_AUTO f = 514000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:0)
QAM_AUTO f = 514000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:0) : updating transport_stream_id: -> (0:0:8205)
QAM_AUTO f = 514000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:8205) : updating network_id -> (0:12368:8205)
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
updating transponder:
(QAM_AUTO f = 514000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:12368:8205)) 0x0000
to (QAM_64 f = 514000 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:8205)) 0x405A
already known: (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:12295)), but not found by pids
QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:12295) : updating tp ids -> (9018:12368:20544)
already known: (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544)), but not found by pids
QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544) : updating tp ids -> (9018:12368:24640)
514167: skipped (already known transponder)
513833: skipped (already known transponder)
522000: (time: 00:45.555)
522167: (time: 00:47.563)
521833: (time: 00:49.603)
530000: (time: 00:51.651)
530167: (time: 00:53.699)
529833: (time: 00:55.747)
538000: (time: 00:57.795)
538167: (time: 00:59.843)
537833: (time: 01:01.891)
546000: skipped (already known transponder)
546167: skipped (already known transponder)
545833: skipped (already known transponder)
554000: (time: 01:03.939)
554167: (time: 01:05.991)
553833: (time: 01:08.111)
562000: (time: 01:10.151)
562167: (time: 01:12.199)
561833: (time: 01:14.243)
570000: (time: 01:16.291) signal ok: QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:0)
QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:0) : updating transport_stream_id: -> (0:0:12295)
QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:12295) : updating network_id -> (0:12368:12295)
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
updating transponder:
(QAM_AUTO f = 570000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:12368:12295)) 0x0000
to (QAM_64 f = 570000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:12295)) 0x405A
already known: (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:24640)), but not found by pids
QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:24640) : updating tp ids -> (9018:12368:20544)
already known: (QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544)), but not found by pids
QAM_64 f = 0 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544) : updating tp ids -> (9018:12368:24640)
570167: skipped (already known transponder)
569833: skipped (already known transponder)
578000: (time: 01:26.303)
578167: (time: 01:28.355)
577833: (time: 01:30.407)
586000: (time: 01:32.527)
586167: (time: 01:34.567)
585833: (time: 01:36.739)
594000: (time: 01:38.787) signal ok: QAM_AUTO f = 594000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:0)
QAM_AUTO f = 594000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:0) : updating transport_stream_id: -> (0:0:20544)
QAM_AUTO f = 594000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:0:20544) : updating network_id -> (0:12368:20544)
updating transponder:
(QAM_AUTO f = 594000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999 (0:12368:20544)) 0x0000
to (QAM_64 f = 594000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544)) 0x405A
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
594167: skipped (already known transponder)
593833: skipped (already known transponder)
602000: skipped (already known transponder)
602167: skipped (already known transponder)
601833: skipped (already known transponder)
610000: (time: 01:47.183)
610167: (time: 01:49.219)
609833: (time: 01:51.267)
618000: (time: 01:53.315)
618167: (time: 01:55.363)
617833: (time: 01:57.411)
626000: (time: 01:59.459)
626167: (time: 02:01.507)
625833: (time: 02:03.555)
634000: (time: 02:05.603)
634167: (time: 02:07.650)
633833: (time: 02:09.698)
642000: (time: 02:11.746)
642167: (time: 02:13.794)
641833: (time: 02:15.842)
650000: (time: 02:17.890)
650167: (time: 02:19.938)
649833: (time: 02:21.986)
658000: (time: 02:24.034)
658167: (time: 02:26.082)
657833: (time: 02:28.130)
666000: (time: 02:30.178)
666167: (time: 02:32.230)
665833: (time: 02:34.402)
674000: (time: 02:36.450)
674167: (time: 02:38.498)
673833: (time: 02:40.554)
682000: (time: 02:42.722)
682167: (time: 02:44.770)
681833: (time: 02:46.818)
690000: (time: 02:48.866)
690167: (time: 02:53.538)
689833: (time: 02:59.462)
698000: (time: 03:04.022)
698167: (time: 03:06.030)
697833: (time: 03:08.066)
706000: (time: 03:10.114)
706167: (time: 03:12.162)
705833: (time: 03:14.210)
714000: (time: 03:16.258)
714167: (time: 03:18.306)
713833: (time: 03:20.354)
722000: (time: 03:22.402)
722167: (time: 03:24.450)
721833: (time: 03:26.498)
730000: (time: 03:28.546)
730167: (time: 03:30.594)
729833: (time: 03:32.642)
738000: (time: 03:34.694)
738167: (time: 03:36.866)
737833: (time: 03:38.918)
746000: (time: 03:41.038)
746167: (time: 03:43.082)
745833: (time: 03:45.250)
754000: skipped (already known transponder)
754167: skipped (already known transponder)
753833: skipped (already known transponder)
762000: (time: 03:47.302)
762167: (time: 03:49.474)
761833: (time: 03:51.522)
770000: (time: 03:53.570)
770167: (time: 03:55.618)
769833: (time: 03:57.666)
778000: (time: 03:59.718)
778167: (time: 04:01.838)
777833: (time: 04:03.882)
786000: (time: 04:06.050)
786167: (time: 04:08.102)
785833: (time: 04:10.149)
794000: (time: 04:12.197)
794167: (time: 04:14.245)
793833: (time: 04:16.293)
802000: (time: 04:18.341)
802167: (time: 04:20.389)
801833: (time: 04:22.437)
810000: (time: 04:24.485)
810167: (time: 04:26.533)
809833: (time: 04:28.581)
818000: (time: 04:30.633)
818167: (time: 04:32.805)
817833: (time: 04:34.853)
826000: (time: 04:36.901)
826167: (time: 04:38.949)
825833: (time: 04:40.997)
834000: (time: 04:43.045)
834167: (time: 04:45.093)
833833: (time: 04:47.141)
842000: (time: 04:49.189)
842167: (time: 04:51.237)
841833: (time: 04:53.285)
850000: (time: 04:55.333)
850167: (time: 04:57.381)
849833: (time: 04:59.433)
858000: (time: 05:01.609)
858167: (time: 05:03.725)
857833: (time: 05:05.765)
Scanning DVB-T2...
474000: (time: 05:07.813)
474167: (time: 05:09.869)
473833: (time: 05:11.993)
482000: (time: 05:14.009)
482167: (time: 05:16.021)
481833: (time: 05:18.041)
490000: skipped (already known transponder)
490167: skipped (already known transponder)
489833: skipped (already known transponder)
498000: (time: 05:20.057)
498167: (time: 05:22.069)
497833: (time: 05:24.085)
506000: (time: 05:26.101)
506167: (time: 05:28.121)
505833: (time: 05:30.137)
514000: skipped (already known transponder)
514167: skipped (already known transponder)
513833: skipped (already known transponder)
522000: (time: 05:32.153)
522167: (time: 05:34.165)
521833: (time: 05:36.181)
530000: (time: 05:38.201)
530167: (time: 05:40.213)
529833: (time: 05:42.233)
538000: (time: 05:44.245) signal ok: QAM_AUTO f = 538000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:0)
QAM_AUTO f = 538000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:0) : updating transport_stream_id: -> (0:0:16574)
QAM_AUTO f = 538000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999P0 (0:0:16574) : updating network_id -> (0:12368:16574)
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
538167: skipped (already known transponder)
537833: skipped (already known transponder)
546000: skipped (already known transponder)
546167: skipped (already known transponder)
545833: skipped (already known transponder)
554000: (time: 05:51.653)
554167: (time: 05:53.829)
553833: (time: 05:55.833)
562000: (time: 05:57.845)
562167: (time: 05:59.861)
561833: (time: 06:01.877)
570000: skipped (already known transponder)
570167: skipped (already known transponder)
569833: skipped (already known transponder)
578000: (time: 06:03.893)
578167: (time: 06:05.909)
577833: (time: 06:07.925)
586000: (time: 06:09.941)
586167: (time: 06:11.957)
585833: (time: 06:13.972)
594000: skipped (already known transponder)
594167: skipped (already known transponder)
593833: skipped (already known transponder)
602000: skipped (already known transponder)
602167: skipped (already known transponder)
601833: skipped (already known transponder)
610000: (time: 06:15.988)
610167: (time: 06:18.004)
609833: (time: 06:20.020)
618000: (time: 06:22.040)
618167: (time: 06:24.052)
617833: (time: 06:26.068)
626000: (time: 06:28.084)
626167: (time: 06:30.100)
625833: (time: 06:32.116)
634000: (time: 06:34.132)
634167: (time: 06:36.148)
633833: (time: 06:38.164)
642000: (time: 06:40.180)
642167: (time: 06:42.196)
641833: (time: 06:44.212)
650000: (time: 06:46.228)
650167: (time: 06:48.244)
649833: (time: 06:50.260)
658000: (time: 06:52.276)
658167: (time: 06:54.292)
657833: (time: 06:56.308)
666000: (time: 06:58.324)
666167: (time: 07:00.340)
665833: (time: 07:02.356)
674000: (time: 07:04.372)
674167: (time: 07:06.388)
673833: (time: 07:08.404)
682000: (time: 07:10.420)
682167: (time: 07:12.436)
681833: (time: 07:14.452)
690000: (time: 07:16.468)
690167: (time: 07:18.488)
689833: (time: 07:20.504)
698000: (time: 07:22.516)
698167: (time: 07:24.536)
697833: (time: 07:26.548)
706000: (time: 07:28.568)
706167: (time: 07:30.580)
705833: (time: 07:32.600)
714000: (time: 07:34.612)
714167: (time: 07:36.628)
713833: (time: 07:38.644)
722000: (time: 07:40.660)
722167: (time: 07:42.676)
721833: (time: 07:44.692)
730000: (time: 07:46.708)
730167: (time: 07:48.724)
729833: (time: 07:50.740)
738000: (time: 07:52.756)
738167: (time: 07:54.772)
737833: (time: 07:56.788)
746000: (time: 07:58.804)
746167: (time: 08:00.820)
745833: (time: 08:02.836)
754000: skipped (already known transponder)
754167: skipped (already known transponder)
753833: skipped (already known transponder)
762000: (time: 08:04.852)
762167: (time: 08:06.868)
761833: (time: 08:08.884)
770000: (time: 08:10.904)
770167: (time: 08:12.920)
769833: (time: 08:14.932)
778000: (time: 08:16.947)
778167: (time: 08:18.963)
777833: (time: 08:20.979)
786000: (time: 08:22.999)
786167: (time: 08:25.011)
785833: (time: 08:27.027)
794000: (time: 08:29.043)
794167: (time: 08:31.059)
793833: (time: 08:33.075)
802000: (time: 08:35.091)
802167: (time: 08:37.107)
801833: (time: 08:39.123)
810000: (time: 08:41.139)
810167: (time: 08:43.155)
809833: (time: 08:45.171)
818000: (time: 08:47.187)
818167: (time: 08:49.203)
817833: (time: 08:51.219)
826000: (time: 08:53.235)
826167: (time: 08:55.251)
825833: (time: 08:57.267)
834000: (time: 08:59.283)
834167: (time: 09:01.299)
833833: (time: 09:03.319)
842000: (time: 09:05.331)
842167: (time: 09:07.347)
841833: (time: 09:09.363)
850000: (time: 09:11.379)
850167: (time: 09:13.399)
849833: (time: 09:15.411)
858000: (time: 09:17.427)
858167: (time: 09:19.443)
857833: (time: 09:21.459)
tune to: QAM_64 f = 490000 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:4222) (time: 09:23.475)
service = BBC ONE Wales ((null))
service = BBC TWO Wales ((null))
service = BBC NEWS ((null))
service = BBC Red Button ((null))
service = BBC FOUR ((null))
service = CBBC ((null))
service = CBeebies ((null))
service = BBC Parliament ((null))
service = BBC R5L ((null))
service = BBC R5SX ((null))
service = BBC 6 Music ((null))
service = BBC Radio 4 Ex ((null))
service = BBC R1X ((null))
service = BBC Asian Net. ((null))
service = BBC World Sv. ((null))
service = BBC Radio Wales ((null))
service = BBC Radio Cymru ((null))
service = BBC Radio Cymru 2 ((null))
service = BBC Radio 1 ((null))
service = BBC Radio 2 ((null))
service = BBC Radio 3 ((null))
service = BBC Radio 4 ((null))
service = BBC RB 1 ((null))
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
retrying with center_frequency = 642167000
tune to: QAM_64 f = 642167 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:24640) (time: 09:37.835)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 642167 kHz I999B8C999D0T999G999Y0 (9018:12368:24640) (time: 09:43.923) (no signal)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QPSK f = 602000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32771) (time: 09:49.999)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 602000 kHz I999B8C999D0T999G999Y0 (9018:12368:32771) (time: 09:56.075) (no signal)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QPSK f = 754000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32807) (time: 10:02.155)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 754000 kHz I999B8C999D0T999G999Y0 (9018:12368:32807) (time: 10:08.235) (no signal)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QPSK f = 546000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32814) (time: 10:14.319)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 546000 kHz I999B8C999D0T999G999Y0 (9018:12368:32814) (time: 10:20.398) (no signal)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 538000 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12368:16574) (time: 10:26.478)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 538000 kHz I999B999C999D0T999G999Y0P0 (9018:12368:16574) (time: 10:32.498) (no signal)
----------no signal----------
tune to: QAM_64 f = 514000 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:8205) (time: 10:38.514)
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
service = ITV Wales ((null))
service = ITV3 ((null))
service = ITV2 ((null))
service = ITV4 ((null))
service = ITV +1 ((null))
service = Channel 4 ((null))
service = Film4 ((null))
service = More 4 ((null))
service = Channel 4+1 ((null))
service = S4C ((null))
service = Film4+1 ((null))
service = Channel 5 ((null))
service = Freeview ((null))
updating transponder:
(QAM_AUTO f = 642167 kHz I999B8C999D0T999G999Y0 (9018:12368:24640)) 0x0000
to (QAM_64 f = 642167 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:24640)) 0x405A
updating transponder:
(QAM_AUTO f = 602000 kHz I999B8C999D0T999G999Y0 (9018:12368:32771)) 0x0000
to (QPSK f = 602000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32771)) 0x405A
updating transponder:
(QAM_AUTO f = 754000 kHz I999B8C999D0T999G999Y0 (9018:12368:32807)) 0x0000
to (QPSK f = 754000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32807)) 0x405A
updating transponder:
(QAM_AUTO f = 546000 kHz I999B8C999D0T999G999Y0 (9018:12368:32814)) 0x0000
to (QPSK f = 546000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:32814)) 0x405A
tune to: QAM_64 f = 570000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:12295) (time: 10:52.838)
service = ITV4+1 ((null))
service = ITV2 +1 ((null))
service = ITV3+1 ((null))
service = CITV ((null))
service = 5SELECT ((null))
service = Paramount Network ((null))
service = Ketchup TV ((null))
service = Drama ((null))
service = E4 ((null))
service = 5STAR ((null))
service = 5 USA ((null))
service = Channel 5+1 ((null))
service = QVC ((null))
service = Blaze ((null))
service = Blaze+1 ((null))
service = Hochanda ((null))
service = Box Nation ((null))
service = QUEST+1 ((null))
service = CBS Reality ((null))
service = Horror Channel ((null))
service = TCC ((null))
service = QUEST ((null))
service = ADULT Studio 66 ((null))
service = Absolute Radio ((null))
service = Heart ((null))
service = Capital ((null))
service = 365 Travel ((null))
service = Loveworld ((null))
service = Sonlife ((null))
service = Racing UK ((null))
service = Arqiva Test Channel ((null))
service = Planet Knowledge ((null))
service = Kiss Chat & Date ((null))
service = Proud Dating ((null))
service = 696 ((null))
service = ADULT Section ((null))
service = 695 ((null))
service = Arise News ((null))
service = VisionTV ((null))
service = Sports Channel Network ((null))
service = ADULT Party ((null))
service = ITVBe ((null))
service = ITVBe+1 ((null))
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
tune to: QAM_64 f = 594000 kHz I999B8C34D0T8G32Y0 (9018:12368:20544) (time: 11:07.846)
service = Sky News ((null))
service = Pick ((null))
service = Challenge ((null))
service = Dave ((null))
service = E4+1 ((null))
service = ADULT smileTV3 ((null))
service = talkSPORT ((null))
service = RNIB Connect ((null))
service = Classic FM ((null))
service = LBC ((null))
service = Food Network ((null))
service = TJC ((null))
service = TBN UK ((null))
service = YourTV ((null))
service = Really ((null))
service = Quest Red ((null))
service = True Entertainment ((null))
service = movies4men ((null))
service = Sony Movie Ch ((null))
service = ADULT Xpanded TV ((null))
service = Create & Craft ((null))
service = Gems TV ((null))
service = 697 ((null))
===================== parse_network_change_notify_descriptor ===========
len = 35
0x00: 07 10 43 0C 01 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 09 00 : C 9 Y
0x10: 10 44 10 02 01 E5 39 05 01 00 11 59 00 19 00 30 : D 9 Y 0
0x20: 07 23 3A : #:
========================================================================
(time: 11:22.838) dumping lists (70 services)
..
Done, scan time: 11:22.838
root@qehs-tv:~#
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Oh and as an addendum
usually when scanning for DTV if you simply put in ONE working mux it will auto discover the rest through the NIT
(Network Information Table (NIT) hex (0x40, 0x41))
as you can see from my previous post of the low level mux scan the NIT is not reporting 690Mhz anywhere
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ohhhhhh touchy touchy Mellie....
Actually most of the entire estate use Carmel ..... it is by a long shot the strongest signal and the most popular, preseli drops out in bad weather and when the trees start sprouting leaves
also half of the estate is behind a very large hill which is directly in front of the preseli transmitter which rules out using it if you're behind it, but you can't have missed it if you allegedly drove past ? did you manage to pick up channel 48 btw with your whizz bang kit, you didn't mention that?
Just for a giggle on friday I went onto the schools roof and swung the antenna to point at preseli the media server picked up all the Mux's from Preseli albeit with some drop out (which is why it was originally changed to Carmel)
I swung it back after the test as the signal really isn't good enough....too many drop outs and pixelation
Carmel's signal is strong enough to not even require an outside antenna but from preseli it needs a good antenna and some amplification, so you're wrong on that point for a start.
My antenna is wideband it's also only 18 months old, and no they are not overloading the frontends of my 8 tuners, the profiler equalises the signal coming in, levels it off BEFORE feeding it to the distribution amplifier
The media server is tapped off the profiler (not the distribution amp) on the test connector which gets the automatically balanced signal, it's also attenuated by 30db so it's not coming off the distribution amplifier at all.
Oh and I've also since taken the raw feed bypassed the profiler and put that into a tuner and that is dead on channel 48, I've also taken the raw feed and put it through a domestic 20db amplifier and still no channel 48, so wideband antenna straight through which allows all the other mux's but strangely 48 isn't even detected....weird no ?
it has worked previously and faultlessly for years like that, the signal improved with the new wideband antenna.
but that STILL doesn't answer why my neighbours cannot get channel 48 either.... does it ?
and it still doesn't fly with no problems before the switchover but now I and others have problems
occam's razor again....
Now if you can't be civil don't bother trying to help because all you're doing is trying to wind me up and I'm
immune to that ( I really am) and you're coming across as arrogant.....
So if you've got nothing constructive to say then best keep it to yourself, and if you look back you started being rude
way before me, spouting off about multi million pound transmitters...and how it was my equipment at fault not the transmitter, but as we know it can't be my equipment as my neighbours are not able to get channel 48 either, mass equipment failure on channel 48 in SA31 ????? (shock horror!!!!) calculate that on an MTBF of 30,000 hours times 7 dissimilar TV's and an 8 tuner media server.... I'll wait .....
if anyone has been arrogant it's been you, I was just letting you know you weren't talking to an idiot as you seem to have assumed I was from the get go :)
so yes I've got all the gear and more than an idea <smile>
Anyway channel 48 is still down (here)
and I do know what a NIT is and more importantly what it does, I'm also happy dealing with OFDM and QAM16/64 as it's extensively used in computing/crypotography as well, and I was using OFDM in the early 1980's in BID crypto systems all over west germany and America.
so yeah I think I know enough....
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Update on channel 48 ....its sprung to life overnight
Did I rescan this morning and all channels on 48 available
(I think somebody flicked a switch ....)
Anyway thanks for all the input and help obviously a transmitter
Issue
But fixed now
and mellie .....take a chill pill (grin)
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Roger Mellie:
Whatever .... (rolls eyes) mind over matter Roger ....
I don't mind and you don't matter
Bis dann.....(grin)
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Wednesday 17 July 2019 10:36PM
Hi,
I maintain a linux DVB media server in our large school, previously before the engineering work on the 17th July it received all channels without any bother at all and all having a strong signal
Since the engineering work I have managed to get all the muxs working except channel 48 (690Mhz)
it's completely dead here, this has been confirmed by an elderly neighbour who lives nearby the school, who asked me to retune his 3 tv's, all of his (modern) TV's cannot get channel 48 (690Mhz) even after a full hard reset
COM6
ArqB H -3dB C48 (690.0MHz) 411m DTG-8
We have the highest antenna around here it's on top of a 3 storey secondary school unfettered line of sight to Carmel Transmitter and about 3 times higher than an average house, but it's totally dead on 690Mhz, it's also a wide band antenna set for horizontal polarisation
it goes down to a very expensive distribution amplifier and a Johansson 6600 profiler, the clusters have been set
to allow through the appropriate muxes
I've even done a low level scan of the entire frequency range from uhf 21 to the top
it's definitely dead as dodo on 690mhz
I was thinking it was a hardware problem with our media server, but once I noticed modern TV's in a nearby estate wouldn't tune 690Mhz either is it conceivable they've messed something up ?
any ideas ?