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The radiated a program with broadcast bionics working with the world's leading broadcasters and equipment suppliers to transform in technology and workplace welcome to the Round Table from Radio today with guilt free post in Soho which should always be your studio of when you're around this neck of the woods.

We have got a stellar celebrity panel.

They're going to introduce themselves celebrity panel starting with you.

Ok fine.

You're the best.

We can get I know John Holmes hello hello there and who are the Celebrity Love Island by right and I produce and I do comedy things and present and all sorts of stuff and then you're right.

I'm Catherine care.

I'm not as

I'm a producer and a writer and I run podcast Pioneers which is a production company and we produce random podcast content audio content and scripted and I mean I'm also celebrity which is why I haven't been on Celebrity Big Brother presenter evening show on LBC and present 555.

Do you want to name some of them is the biggest you do with former home secretary full of smart will get a a new former home secretary sooner than I thought there might be a pretty vacant slot there soon.


Ok? We're going to talk about the BBC to start with BBC Radio in particular.

You are always discreet.

Ian as a right-wing Observer what do you think is the endgame here for a current government what they want to do with the BBC just put the willies up.

Actually changed I think I want to provoke the BBC into actually do some serious thinking about what it's therefore in the 2020s because if you think about it is structured haven't really changed very much what it does really changed very much the licence fee hasn't changed at all and one of the things.

I'm fascinated by the reluctance of the BBC ever to embrace change will be the driver of change and they got a real opportunity now.

They need to let the government dictate terms to them.

They could say ok well.

We understand maybe the licence fee isn't as appropriate now as it was in the 1950s and 1980s whatever so here's what we propose to do.

I see no sign of anything along those lines from within the BBC changed at the BBC usually means cuts and they would argue that they've done cutting I guess they would also say hang on a minute when we launch BBC sounds with launching this new thing Radio 1 dance.

They would say they are embracing change, but they're not giving anything up early.

But not embracing change Radio 1 dance does the world really need Radio 1 dance when you got a multiplicity of commercial radio stations whether they global Bow or whoever is doing all of this stuff anyway, why does the BBC say it's job is to compete with the commercial sector when it's actually providing a service quite well, what they should be doing proper Public Service Broadcasting doing things that the commercial sector will never do John you've had your Runnings with the BBC and I think you're currently doing quite well in that they've recommissioned your skewer which should I have which is great news? What's it like in the BBC at the moment? Well? I think I saw the agree with Ian I think a lot of the time the BBC do remain on the back foot about things.

I think that's because of it and it's from it's not just technology if you look at every time the BBC gets handed in the press.

It always panics and doesn't quite know what to do and try to think well.

We need to appear to be due.

Have a meeting what's the right thing we need to be appeared to be doing and then a month has gone by and so it's playing catch up all the time.

I think you're right now so many years ago and it was one of the first ever podcast the herd podcast and there's all sorts of complicated contractual obligations by how we would be paid extra for a podcast or not because nobody really knew the rules and whether a podcast could be long and then this rule came in about you.

Can't broadcast anything on a podcast has already been broadcasted.

You just been off of ready, but why and addressing all this and there was even a period was the word podcast was banned by radio for you weren't allowed to say the word yeah, because it meant you were publicising an apple product that is all of this stuff going on a licence.

I think the boat for money is fantastic and people comparing its Netflix as many commentators have said that's just a false analogy is not the same thing at all and you're not going to get the same for Netflix if you get the BBC so I think all of the

Is vital and I think continue but yes it does need to change with the times.

I think you will this impact radio though, because we don't pay a radio licence do we pay something called the TV light and therein lies the problem also given that it's seemingly free to access.

It's almost Radio 6 in this area that it feels almost as if it's right more so because we don't have that association in the taxi.

Play essentially an argument that the licensee is a subscription and what we actually talking about more recently is paywalls and so if I put BBC Radio content behind some kind of people I mean good luck to an FM broadcast if they haven't paid a subscription of some sort of the younger audiences to adoption apps and enough listening to BBC sounds and the like but

This is not a viable option because it doesn't service many people on people aren't adopting it in that way if the BBC was to have to cut back a lot in radio.

What are the Crown Jewels at the BBC should continue to have anybody would argue that Radio 4 on Radio 5 Live shouldn't continue only five live I think has changed over the years but Radio 1 radio 2, is there really an argument that's Public Service Broadcasting I mean yes, it is providing entertainment but only in the same sense that is done in the commercial sector particularly radio 1032 you could argue radios rotation on songs is appalling but I think that there's an argument that don't do that and that is all the way through the day if you like.

Chris evans' allowed to do the washing in the morning no one else is the rest of the day you could use this work has been sent but you could privatize Radio One and put some restrictions on what the new owners would how to do with it.

I think that's the model that I think at least should be considered.

I'm not particularly advocating it, but I think that's the sort of thinking that needs to happen here, but what we got is the situation where TV is eating all of the money sport is eating up a huge amount of money.

I mean if you look at the economics of Match of the Day 4 million viewers.

I think they're paying what 210 million pounds a year or something that is a third of the radio budget almost so I think there's got to be a sense of priorities within the within the BBC what is absolutely necessary that they continue to do and news and current affairs short has got to be at the news and current affairs are taking a lot of the cards in trying to compete in a commercial manner with other offering so BBC isn't actually delivering its remit as well and if you

They just gonna go for the numbers and take it in terms of podcast for example.

You're going to see the output changing to the geared towards the kind of the masses and the menu that the love Island podcast and those mainstream nothing so actually you would get a lot of programming equality and diversity and in more niche areas and mediums essentially not serving a broader Spectrum if you're just going for the numbers you don't you doing you're damned if you don't have the BBC it because if you do the kind of specialist as it were needs programming that will not be done by commercial radio then people say well.

I pay this licence for me but if you do EastEnders and you know the other big Blockbusters people say what that could be funded commercially Thursday always a hard line to tread John yes, and I think that is exactly what we talking about.

That's the future line and where it goes off into the future and everyone has to follow follow it to some extent of the BBC just have to decide what side they are I think that's a really interesting point about the relationship between.

Because it always feels like the poor second to people who work in it and love it.

I think but it's the radio times when it when was last on the radio programmes on the front of the radio.

That's not that is not a thing and those figures for match of the day if they just took that money away and put much a day in the corner somewhere and just have this money radio.

I think the biggest is in radio.

I think it makes world-class television but actually the Jewel In The Crown should be ready on Israeli because that is what makes it unique I think part of the problem is that when the BBC decides to get into something new it has to be the only player in it we saw that what channel 15 years ago.

When one word radio star today's to do a little books program on that and then the BBC decided no no we can't allow this will have BBC 7 instead which they morphed into Radio 4 Extra within always months one word was out of existence.

They did it in magazine.

So they said they were going to magazine publishing driving a huge number of perfectly.

Good magazines out of print now.

You've got them starting to do in podcasts not started.

They are doing in podcast they relate to the gaming podcast so they started BBC sounds which in some ways is very good, but they're actually doing what the mainstream media did to blogger back and 10 years ago.

We had lots of brilliant independent bloggers virtually non-existent now because the mainstream media and blogging and I think that's where we got to be really careful about the BBC's monopolistic tendencies and said is Radio 1 dance these other 20 podcasts and stations that they're starting their spending millions of pounds on that sort of thing when they cutting millions of pounds from the news and current affairs budget Jonathan wall who runs BBC sounds is a listening to this podcast he is saying that sounds is now a useful brand for younger listeners.

Do we know anybody under 30 you'll ever says I'm a big fan of BBC sounds.

The nearest 130 that we got no I'm not I think it's trying to and under the word problem.

It is improving but it does the marketing is wrong for that.

They were very very patronising posters on the sides of bus shelters which sort of said things like it's like your Grandad sort of influences listen to this sort of diversity picture of somebody holding some headphones or something and it was just that and they do work out.

I think I mean that the technology is improving.

It's still a bit weird but if you want to listen to something on Radio 4 you go to the BBC sounds new type it in and it doesn't come up.

Go to Radio 4 website to find it within links you to the right page and the search function doesn't seem to know there are these nearly bits but overall I think it is their way into the about.

This is that most people imagine I saw the only use One Podcast provider iTunes.

Just cos I'm lazy and I haven't found a better one and it really annoys me that BBC sounds podcast often on iTunes, so am I really going to go to two or three different podcast providers to get my podcast no in the end.

I don't listen to them also an actor called iTunes anymore.

It's called Apple podcasts, so I'm so nice dreaming about you going to go to Netflix might huge problem at the moment.

I think is why I want to watch I don't know The Walking Dead where is the Netflix apple NOW TV and then?

Platform as well, I would probably go to James Weir and say BBC sounds want to do this.

What's your decision? I think I know what it would be as well looking at attracting younger people to using a new app providing them programs and marketing as John said those programs in a way that's going to create mouth and actually from one place to the other but they were already listening to Spotify whatever it is is key so actually I think the winners in this space so far the people who are looking at it from the behavioural perspectives on Spotify has started rolling out podcast people are listening to their music it so it's a habit their kind of adaptor emotion or its complementary to what they're doing.

I've already got that headphones on so you'll be a bit warm.

So that model of browsing around you different providers on your television in the evening is one thing but actually allowing people to do that in a native space easily.

It's probably.

It's the radio today round table for March and will be back after this Today programme with broadcast bionics creators of The Bionic listening watching reacting to and learning from every spoken word Kolo sweet and SMS to a mix and lock and understand your content the bionic studio transform about radio except the way you make it round table for March I just said that and John Holmes Katherine Kerr is here and in daily here to are we going to the areas this week.

Support a couple of friends who doesn't feel like I believe there's something called not playing no, I couldn't go was going to go and I wasn't obviously but I've still got them from last year when I got a bronze so technically you're going to visit a handover.

No thing.

I got this and also do anything this year like we know like to present the ward so probably remember that yeah absolutely right which of these is not around too much now is here.

Wards mean anything to anyone Samantha peace John I think it's nice to be recognised by your peers I suppose that's that's yeah, at least it isn't going to the pub.

What happens when they get what they know about the ward.

Will I came into this industry quite late in life.

I was 48 when I start it.

Obviously 10 years ago and when I won the TV Award for radio that meant an awful.

Lot to me.

It was only three years after I started and there's a bit of a novice that and that's kind of your peers voting for it that did need an awful.

Lot so I do regret that I suppose were involved in this manual also for the Global awards on Thursday as well.

Don't forget that absolutely and it will you be nominated in that because I'm so clearly I can't go.

Not just because you were here but I asked you earlier.

What out of the BBC would protect if it got emasculated what out of commercial radio.

I'd keep will include LBC LBC has in its time been awful and it's not all that the very opposite of all really really really strong somebody who works on it.

Why is it as good as it is I think it's evolved.

It's changed over the years and I'm not just saying this because he's my boss.

Is that the big boss but I'm James huge impact on the station and the factor.

He took his national in 2014 that had a big impact now the audience at the moment.

I would say is probably out and about 45/65 London National and that's where the audience can increase nationally and that's partly why it has increased but I think we've become part of the news agenda.

Back in 2010 we used to think it was good if we got a sort of ordinary backbencher on to the station, when are you disappointed? If you don't get a cabinet minister and we're included in all of the media around about the cabinet ministers do sometimes the exclusion of some the BBC stations Wiltshire tickly at the moment particularly at the moment.

So I think we have a place in news and current affairs which we didn't 10 years ago.

We are part of the National conversation in which we weren't 10 years ago and I think we've got and everyone has their own views about the presenters and all the rest of it, but there is a broad mix of presenters over the schedule and actually look in the brexit.

Debate everyone seemed to regard us as for the brexitcentral.

Yes, you look by hours and number presenters.

There's far more remain than brexit.

So about pirate radio that all the shops got together in the evening.

So you'd find under now John Peel and Kenny Everett having a chat.

Do you guys socialise is there a kind of LBC presenter wine bar off?

Something where you are because you don't see you at the other end of the day.

I mean I see Eddie may I see Tom swarbrick shelagh Fogarty a bit but James and Nick there at the other end of it, so I don't see them so much so we see each other if there's company meetings the quarterly radar meeting obviously, but it's not no I mean I wouldn't say generally drive on a b c and I think I did too late night as well.

What are you still interested? I use to call it which people just calling a girl staying with mental a lot of things you could get away with it.

It was that that was and it was a lot of fun, but then it did change an hour.

Regarding the serious news outlet and I think it's not just the station as well.

It's the position it managed to get itself into if you were saying it it's it's very much part of the whole agenda now and it's not unusual to see your LBC clips and the way studio to get up for video and all of that stuff you know but have always been leaps ahead on that if you look at it.

Yeah, I want to talk clearly but they're idea of video camera hanging off the things that sounds really important actually in development and James O'Brien would say that since I think it's only over brexit his brexit viral that went viral.

They were kind of the making of him in a way that they have played a part in attracting a younger audience if you look at the demographics of the LBC listening now.

We have got the 15 to 24 age group in a way that no BBC station.

We beats many music stations in that age group as well and particularly when there was a terror attack or something people immediately come to us because they know we're going to be talking about it was 5 Live could be so it's become experts in the viral clip and that short first attention span the youngsters like that and the way the videos of cups as well and I know it don't seem that you seem to have got it by the huge amount of money.

I'm trying to get in here.

I was just the video facilities.

Just can't actually even the culture of the place the lighting and the calibre of every time you detail all tied up with that branding thing as well.

I think it's been a really strong and smart move and having spent time at the radio networks where they haven't quite thought about that visual side of things that really has made a huge difference to use a presenter Is Massive

Broom cupboard as a studio when they brought the new studio in April 2015 just for the general election is actually made me about the presenter.

I think because you feel in control at you is massive desk in front of you.

You've got all the lights and it is essentially now sometimes TV production and our election night programme that is century was a TV programme that does constrain you because I think we're moving towards every program will be streamed for the whole thing live so when you have one of John's interesting coolers come on and you're so they making a signal to your producer you can't do that in that environment and I know I'm going quite gesticulating when I'm talking to people and I know that at some point.

I probably would come across her but everyday listeners while you have such a diversity of radio programming podcasts and such a choice of things you could listen to at any one time if you want an authority on a subject depending on where you're coming.

Is it from actually having that Funnel in place as well, so you are promoting across all the channels helps people refine I think their proposition and Mexico clear who you speak into it and it will be back to find out what I guess to be listening to music was composed by it was that supposed from the round table for a moment to tell you now cleanfeed.

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Feed dotnet back to the round table with Trevor and his lovely guests Catherine and John Holmes are with me for the March round table at last night with you.

Ian to have your first the first is a podcast which is not that one.

No it's called the Politics of Sound which sounds a bit intimidating but it's run by guy called Ian Carnegie and what he doesn't invite you on the Boston you have to talk about your three favourite albums and has one guest per podcast and the wolf in the world of politics.

I did it at a few months ago Jackie Smith my partner in crime on for the many.

She did it last month and he really does get stuff out of his got very disarming style.

He's clearly done a lot of homework before he does it for the first half an hour.

Will talk to you about your life and background then you get into talking about your three favourite albums and you're not allowed to pick one that anybody else has paid so I couldn't pick that out of hell because John whittingdale got there before me.

And Jackie Smith couldn't pick parallel lines cause I got there before she did ok.

We got a clip of Jackie on the Politics of Sound the breakthrough single from the album was of course the wonderful ever fall in love with someone you shouldn't fall in love with was that one of the major factors for deciding on this album and probably buying it back in the day was thought I thought I need to be virtuous and just listen to that.

I need to listen to the rest of the album and of course in those days the way in which you listen to albums.

Was you put it on you play it from the beginning to the end, then you turned it over you play The Other Side and I used to listen to you now and I did listen to the whole time and look at all of the album artwork and all the rest while you wasn't quite as geeky.

No I can't you know I'm not I'm afraid I'm going to disappoint your missus by not being able to sort of tell you arcane things about the producer and all the

Bob's I'm afraid, it was simply about I've heard it.

I love the energy and I wasn't the first time that I bought but it was about living you know that my life would like to a time and a place and an energy and a sort of joyous bouncing around a feeling.

It's really noticeable that there's a lot of people matters on podcast whether the quality is up to what we would call broadcast quality.

I think it does matter.

Yes, and I think it says a lot about the company.

It's great and as audio people would probably noticed a lot more that matters a lot more task however if the contents great then people and people are able to hear what you can access it and then you know enjoy the talent then I'm at my home in Tunbridge Wells

And I have my laptop we do it for ipdtl we both had dodgy Wi-Fi connection so sometimes.

It's not it's not studio quality, and I don't think that people mind about that.

I think they will give you even though it is on LBC podcast they kind and get that we're not doing it in the studio usually and people will make allowances.

I'll put the people's back in between the quality of that and have some ice cream travelers according to His more at home recording cameras.

Have your first choice a clip from an American production call is a scripted drama 10 short 50 minute parts that was released last November and it's what I think is interesting about it.

Is that it's calibre reproduction is so high.

They really brought a kind of almost TV approach to storytelling.

They really invested this company in great sound design and they've really use the format in a fascinating way, so it's rude to spend.

I think the thing that interests you most about what this company are doing is that they're telling stories and bucking the trend of what we might understand as audio drama.

They're also kind of adding an aspect of seeing more mainstream issues as well so with the story.

It's about him.

I don't want to give too much away, but it's about a girl who disappears and then comes back from years and nobody knows what she disappeared to and there's some strange manipulative thing going on and so it what is actually addressing these kind of issues of trust relationships and this kind of fractured relationship with her friend and I think what's really understand is if you take the rising in conversational podcast and people you know addressing issues around mental health or relationships in that very candid way.

This is just using a fiction formats do something really quite different maybe it was.

But I promise you that comment anyone only make things worse will then make things worse than as a great man is afraid to make the hard choices if needed if that's ok.


No other option is in this will only be a reflection of my failure for the family and you look at me.

This is not how a great man act.

Can you listen to me first second Danny

We get a clean baby.

I'm sorry I come back.

I'm going to go OK that's fine.

I'll go in the other room.


Let me try that kind of help Rebecca I call the police and your parents.

Please just sit please.

I'm going to head to BBC sounds.

I know me ages to find this.

This is a thing called Tom neenan.

Is not all men turning into stand up in the writer is a lead right on the mash report on telly and he kept his idea for podcast.

I think something else make it and Tristan my cock.

It's pretty producers producers it and it's a sort of spoof feminism podcast in which he is gone Alan Partridge STI supposed tries to understand but gets spectacularly wrong all of the time, but what's interesting about it because that would be an easy spoof you thing but there's a sort of sitcom developing underneath as well in at one of his panel.

He just despair of everything.

He says as he tried to say the right thing but get it really wrong with his ex, but she's not going out with all the podcast who's more successful than him.

So there's hold underlying jealousy of Andy podcast and every week so different subjects.

They discuss cancel and they define masculinity and detoxify and how to be a disabled that is a particular strength when he's got a disabled person that you would get that very wrong as well.

It's just very funny here's a clip from the addition about sexual harassment sexual harassment was strictly The Pursuit

James Bond and cockney window cleaners New York bar being catcalled wolf whistled and horse Wanted made that last one up all and sundry still really terrible watch sexual harassment on the streets of Control I'm pounding the pavement of central London to see how much harassment a man like me has to deal with to give you a mental picture and wearing some slim fit black jeans and white shirt that £85 in the sale and thick Rim glasses which suggest that I'm aware of fashion and by no means a Slave to it, so I'm looking good.

Let's see how much harassment I have to.

So, I thought I was being catcalled old lady struggling with her shopping.

Ultimate this moment my contact with me, so there's just talking about the news quiz on ready for and how even in prime time is it word daytime you can say shit now on Radio 4 on LBC absolutely got you done the same bitching about woman.

I say he bitched about him and I got done that I can tell you you've had your moments with language on.

Ok, and I obviously the compliance form is a lot of fun and I love you and I will often I'm going to tell you this but we shouldn't I often write things I can buy some and nothing to do with the program.

Just to see if anybody checked so once I was producing a stand-up show the Asian Network right in the Radio Theatre and I wrote on compliance form the program live there was one of the studio.

Nobody mentioned it nobody the strobe lighting was having with compliance and just saying thank you for those about the strobe lighting looking so yes, I mean I think there's always the question.

It's never done without asking somebody upset.

That's for sure.

It has to be to go straight onto your second.

It would be this an American podcast so I do love advert for Square this is called this paranormal life.

I start taking the big things you've heard off and then really as the series go on their drilling down into things you know what even is this one takes listeners suggestions what intrigues me about.

It's two guys kitten.

Rory funny.

They tell the story but interject all the time with the real or can it and they sorted decide at the end whether or not there's any merit to be interested me was the thing about the Hexham heads.

I don't know you're familiar with the Hex head there were two stone heads that we discovered back in the 1970s and the paranormal events started happening around the head including a werewolf coming into the house that the reason I remember it was a kid in about 1977 watching Nationwide that's right for another one of my old and yeah, they did a film about it.

Terrified me as a child stay with me forever so the American guys discussing it in a very sort of off and sort of way kind of really Drew me in but it's funny if you like some apparel stories and mystery nonsense which I do well.

I'm glad you mentioned that episode this is a clip from another one.

I'm Danny came down.

He had a look like he was in pain.

Jesus don't you look like you've seen a ghost.

Are you ok? Never been better? You know I'm actually stuff from the funeral so I'm going to turn in your so hungry is specifically asked for three steaks for dinner.

You need to cook the steaks as soon as we got home.

Good night everyone what are those scratches on your arm? Did you hurt yourself up there?

There's no easy way to say this but I think I was attacked by a demon in your bathroom this paranormal life.

Thank you John Catherine what's your second choice is just something I've noticed this week and started listening to which is a series from the Telegraph which they releasing the cereal called Crossfire and what are thinking about essentially it's trying to take a British view on our involvement in the US Russia election fixing scandal something that is relevant all over again the clip that I've picked his they got an interview with Rob Goldstone and who did yes the first Friends episode this one so they've gone really close up on this story.

He was a journalist and radio personality of integrity and set up a meeting between some Russians and something important some people and it's just kind of his story that says essentially.

I mean, it's great as a story in itself.

Is it really keeps you? Hope they're told the newspaper is essentially creating content that complements what they're doing in terms of news output some of the stories on this so far this one is about just a single man and a single episode Robert Goldstone story is one of confidence charisma, and let's face it BlackBerry it will take us from Fleet Street to Vegas to the heart of a presidential campaign.

I think something fascinating about Donald Trump's in a circle which remains as relevant for the 2020 campaign as it was in 2016.

It's an insight into the chaos and the characters who thrive within it.

You'll be hearing a lot from Goldstone listen.

It's worth considering a few things.

Do you believe his story and if so, what does it say about the

United States and its closest advisors there's Crossfire from the Telegraph and what we haven't mentioned yet before we come onto your final recommendation, Ian is the announcement that the Times talking newspapers moving into audio is going to launch x radio and it's already stolen John Pienaar from the BBC do we think that's likely to be a successful former if you look at talk radio, they call the TalkBack radio in Australia you have 11 speech stations in Sydney and we have one or two in this country lb and then talk radio so you would think that there ought to be a market for it, but when I listen to Stig Abell on your podcast a few weeks ago talking for a 15 or 20 minute with a colleague about the whole thing afterwards.

I thought what is the strategy here because if the strategy is to try and compete with Radio 4 you're not going to compete.

10 million-pound budget with a 10 million-pound is what I understand that they've got I've seen what I think is there likely line-up all great people but you can't then no actually no, I don't know who the breakfast one is but I think I know who most of the others might be going to get me John home, but that there is little different there that is I think will attract people across from Radio 4 or LBC talk radio is set up to compete with LBC I make no comment on that but I'll leave you to judge.

Whether they be successful it when I was there when he started to cross and interesting how that change is that the brief when I was was we don't want a New Jersey news station.

We want a rock and roll music station that we want to come and do your thing that you that thing you do that weird thing you do do that in the afternoon.

And then I must have the same too early in the evening exactly exactly then it was decided that they would go chasing don't think that was necessarily but it's not have communicated to me when I joined but then it quickly I said 22 years changing obviously then.

They got bought out by the times-picayune on her bike and stuff.

So that was when they wanted to align it with a brand and I do remember when I was let go on my contacts not really used the phrase that sticks with me.

I was missing you.

This is you can we listen to your program.

I know I saw you standing through the glass podcast John about you being fired from Radio station in a meeting once a week until we don't think it fits with the core brand values of the Sun newspaper.

But they're not going to have callers.

They're not going to have adverts.

So they have got 60 minutes to fill 24-hours a day and I would challenge any new presenter to come into the station like that and be able to talk for 60 minutes an hour even if you've got one or two guests with you that I suspect it's going to be a very big Challenge for that brings a uniquely to your final recommendation somebody who certainly could talk for an hour.

It's Chris Moyles I can see him because he's quite into his politics.

I do Chris Moyles walls before he joined radio expert didn't have never listened to it when I suppose I I regard him as a bit of a loud mouth and I don't know how I can to listen to his podcast which for the people who've never listens.

He and his gang.

They do about 1530 minutes of original content and the play The Best of the show during the week and somehow they completely got me.

I think I've only ever listen to that show twice live but I love the podcast I love the interaction between him and his team and they've had a bit of a change of personnel once or twice which you think will that work if they've got some very in jokes most of them work one or two down and I write a review of his podcast once I hate the reverse words thing which he now keeps mentioning on his show that I hate it and he does this sort of oldie sketch from time to time and Johnny vaughan's just launched a new podcast called LBC recall he commentates on LBC callers and presenters which is only Johnny Vaughan could do that is an absolutely riveting listen, but much to my surprise.

I've absolutely brought into Chris Moyles will here is a clip from the Chris Moyles podcast from last week when he had his birthday and they did a show in the dark and the star of this clip is Chris Morris sausage.

21 I'm sorry sausage and 5 attempts where you just went before is slightly in left.

I'm going to miss my eyes closed my eyes and lunch volume down my cheek to the right in the middle of the of those two attempts.

I'm covering my eyes in case you put for you if I miss your mouth and go somewhere else at least you'll enjoy it.

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Are you a massive? Thank you any other business podcast LBC but my other one Show podcast is back as well for season 5 finale To thanks very much what you working on something from my colleagues fresh air production.

Where did it work and day this week are launching a series called to the big steal all about Putin Russia and very revelatory in I'm not coming out in May cold and you've written about 47 books only one before and I was only 15000 proper book is 80000 words and it's called why can't we all just get along shout less listen more.

It's all about the decline in public discourse particularly on social media and what can be done about.

It's sort of a bit autobiographical.

I used to love some incidents in my life and broadcasting to illustrate the points.

I'm trying to make that start in May I'm going to do the literary festival tour in the summer Iain Dale thank you finally coming on this planet it took a bit of negotiation, but it was great time.

They're pleased and didn't get up walk out as it is I'm trying to control myself.

Thank you for not walking out as well.

We don't have to push you either and Catherine thanks for John here at guilt-free for engineering impact of noise now next month is exciting for you.

We should be doing this program on a stage in Lisburn I'm going to be there as well.

You could have really this is the radio.

I'm going to be doing as well.

That's been the radio today round table for March I've been Trevor down and this is Stuart Clarkson thank you Trevor and another fantastic episode of our

Table monthly discussion at thanks as well to get Catherine John and Ian at Trevor as he mentioned will be back at radiodays Europe for the April 2020 edition.

Just had a quick word for me to tell you that on next week's podcast that we will have all the reaction from the 2020 Aria Awards yes there might have been some more celebrities on the red carpet has arrived at the Awards at the Palladium and will hear from some of the big winners as they come off stage clutching their awards and walk straight towards my radiotoday microphone find out what they have to say on next week's radio Today programme.

It's 30 years this week since the original Jazz FM launched in London it's a bit the brainchild of Dave Lee who wrote the regulator saying quite simply we need a Jazz station and the arrears counting in 2A station jingle.

Something new has happened in this town because young people had turned to Jazz we have we have young DJs like Gilles Peterson who have created and maybe he did it.

I don't know but he certainly reflects an enormous interest among young people.

I've always loved jazz blues.

It just makes sense to me might I grow up my my dad was just from bonus, so I grew up the same to Sarah Vaughan and Ella Fitzgerald Duke Ellington and stuff and they just approached said that would you would you like to be our first presenter of the elements of Jazz FM 30 years old this week happy birthday and that distinctive and resilient brand has had a rich life under several owners over the years that was even silence for a time witness this from 16 years ago in the northwest as the

Became smooth, this is Steve Collins it's 4 minutes until midnight and it's been from the 1st of September 1994 I have to say it's been a great 10 years.

We are looking forward to something bigger and better on 100.4 FM 104.4 smooth FM is coming to this frequency get ready for the northwest smooth favourites from 8 a.m.

On Tuesday 2nd of March becoming smooth this week in 2004 by the way as smooth as about the same reach in London now as Jazz FM used to have another northwest smooth has about three times the audience Happy Birthday to Helen Bowden this week at 20-years ago that she was appointed Radio 4 first female controller for 20-years.

I came in after James Boyle who'd been a very very controversial controller because it changed the schedule.

You did I actually agree with and I was public about that, but it was very important to do calm and consolidation and I did lots of relatively modest things with the schedule like early morning.

I cleaned up and I just thought this audience had enough of schedule changes and radius and you have to get to know it over time so let's just focus on the quality of the content.

Let's get that right and we are audiences went up.

They got 2/10 million which was the highest it ever been up till then when it's gone above that now and we want Sony station of the year two years in a row never having won it before so incredibly incredibly who have been head of current affairs and business John Peel is often associated with distinctive perfect late night radio and this week 52 years ago.

He made his debut on the BBC's nitride programme aired on Radio 1 on Radio 2 at the radio.

John Peel exploring the world of words and music in his own special way, this is the first of the new series of programs and just about anything this morning the incredible string band and played Adrian Mitchell also play records by groups that you may not have heard of the we consider worthy of exposure.

This is a record by group tries to manage in California that was released about 15 months ago, and it shows you I think that groups are capable of making records and never get anywhere that people should hear and unfortunately the group of subsequently broken up they call the misunderstood and thank you very much for the overnighter John done with the news and the rest of nitride.

Thank you John Peel very much indeed one of the sad things about broadcast to interfere with your listening habits and that was when pregnant right through another 1 when in summary with John Donne on nitride this week in 1968 2015 now and a Radio 1 departure.

Listen to the show all the artists who have given music to us to play on this show and I'll give me an opportunity to do so I want to say thank you very very much and I hope you enjoy it.

I know you will enjoy the wonderful day from 7 p.m.

Now if you get emotional or you could just check it out one day and has been a constant for me throughout this whole journey.

Give me more one-liners that passed off as my own give me more great music and I could possibly hope to digest her lifetime and never been kind to me to is my last song Queens of the Stone Age song for the Dead you can't even hear it won't show this week 5 years ago.

He went off of course to the beats 1 station from Apple which was said to be the biggest radio station in the world beating although music stations in current listeners.

That's what they said at commercial radio arrived belatedly in Derby this week in 1987 the regulator had added the city to the Nottingham franchise, but that didn't go down to.

To those people who wanted their own Derby Station trendmd run Coles remembers that Derby public meeting with the regulator I mean there really was almost a riot in the room the engineers have put microphones around the place so that people could go and and speak and say that pays well, these microphones were commandeered by members of opposing groups who shouted in them and for some reason the engineers didn't have the width played them down so we had a really chaotic angry very angry meeting everybody had a chance of the last 5-minutes to say the pizza, so somebody got up and said why they thought we shouldn't get it and our Derby representative went to do his and the whole audience as one got up and walked out Trent 9:45 designer radio radio tailored to suit your lifestyle.

Derbyshire live in one of the most beautiful cannabis in the United the story of Trance 9:45 lighter RAM FM and the Frequency part of capital Midlands so with the death of Tommy Vance 15 years ago and it says that he has compiled for the BBC by the British market research Bureau high 28 years ago.

I'm on my own making is Radio 1 debut 34 years ago, but not quite as brown as of the short-lived Huddersfield FM 21 years ago FM ending 29 years ago.

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Approaching 12 and housewives Choice wanting on the BBC light programme 74 years ago when our let's have a look at the next card to Caroline Gardens Howdon on this is howling writing with grandmother who cried all about her daughter living at 15 Burton Street Percy main is the world number the radio Today programme broadcast bionics.

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