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Hello and welcome to the latest edition of the media business podcast I'm headed your screen international and this week.

We are at the Cannes Film Festival this year 70 circuit running of the world's most prestigious competition which brings together the top movers and shakers and world cinema in this episode from Rebecca O'brien visit to can weekend in competition with sorry we missed you loaches the director has been in competition more than any other here I can and he's already won the Palme d'Or twice.

Can you do a third time this year science was certainly good will be speaking to Gabriel Stuart the managing director of International Film sales company hanway films Liz Miller of PR agency premiere.pro and Lawrence Atkinson CEO of the public relations and communications for d.va.

But first I'm delighted to be joined by Wendy I did Jonathan Romney to screen internationals very busy time of credits on the ground and can this year who were going to take us through what day is seen for the first few days in the festival everything apart from the selected so far, so I'm looking forward to it.

Immensely because the early secret word on is very positive.

So you have seen everything else and yeah my stand out so far is baccarat the Brazilian film by a donkey and also co-director Juliana d'ornellas who he has worked with before as a production designer now.

They're working together on this project.

Just been I think they've been working on it for about 10 years and now it's even so feel quite timely to me and in The Themes that it's dealing with I really don't want to talk too much about it because and I've already made the point of the cinema reviews not giving away.

You think I think the people discussing it, but I would say the things that there are many things.

It's into Brazilian Politics of the wealth divide economic colonialism from the US and Europe there's a lot of going on there and I think that's if your Brazilian you probably pick up even more there is a very key thing that I feel uncomfortable discussing as a suspect of the people will do actually if you go to the film knowing it's probably spoilt as little bit the small one street and little community of people it's a fiver and even though it's small and one day they noticed that been erased from orbital Maps it's no longer.

There's no longer any satellite record of it and so what then happens is a direct consequence or is linked to this draws on near the Western it's drawing on Brazilian cinema from the 50s and 60s and it's John Carpenter Carpenter song.

Really effectively, so yeah, that's one that really stood out for me so far and clever.

I was last year in 2016 with Aquarius and sunnybrook.

Yes, she's an unrecognisable because she says of 1-year in Aquarius is very elegant and this one she's quite demented, but powerful perhaps.

I would like to see a little bit more of her and I think she's on the characters because it's it is an awesome the peace and there is no real central character that guides is through the story and I would like to see maybe a couple of the characters developed a little bit more fully and she's one of them, but yet, she's she's great in it.

So Wendy's stand out is that also a standard for you Jonathan or it wasn't entirely I love them and also feels previous films and this one didn't impress much.

I've had two felt very confused and I didn't even necessarily expect the same.

Because he's basically made the city of Recife centre of his universe and the first two and again.

He's in the Northeast of Brazil but it's a rural drama.

Is it for a confused I really enjoyed your first hour where I thought we were getting something like that was like Brazilian customer it's not quite that knockabout but and in sample drama in which you have these characters in a small media village environment who are completely themselves and leave to their own rules me start to work out the relationships between characters, but the phone goes on seems to lose interest in who those characters are and what their relationships are and this seems to be a hold back story involving you know the 94 year old grandmother who has just died the Sonia Braga character and then started to feel well.

Maybe there was a 3-hour movie that was originally made and that this has been stripped back to the bears.

Cause the film takes the complete left turn and I won't say too much about it except that would IKEA is in a cast list and he his scarf introduce for me a kind of Western through the Strand which also came Laden with a certain amount of very heavy-handed satire about colonialism and you know American desire to consume the world and also when you said it's about Brazilian politics and it was conceived long before bolsonaro came to power but one of the things about it is that it? Is it is it set in the near future and there's a moment when you see on TV coverage of live executions in Sao Paulo so clearly.

It's timely enough to be giving us a wall.

This is where Brazil might be gay film.

It's cramped with ideas absolutely didn't work for me in many ways.

I found it quite kind of misconceived misformed and even at times, but no one could conceivably be bored so if that wasn't the one then what for you so far of the competition titles has been your stand up the competition title that really knocked me out in knocked out as a term because it works a very sort of enigmatic charm is Atlantic by macky gee up she's known for her shorts is also known for her acting work in France in Clare Denise 35 shots of rum and Antonio campuses Paris thriller, Simon Killer but this is her first feature and Anthony is comfrey way beyond hershaws.

It's really fascinating.

It is set in Sunnydale it starts off a building.

Is Labour is a building is kind of futuristic tower block I wondered if it was real.

Speak to Dubai style tower block and they're not getting paid and eventually meets up with his girlfriend so starts off you think you'll get in kind of afro loads, then it turns into a kind of star-crossed romance because she loves him.

He's a bullworker, but she's engaged to this rich guy as a family wanted to marry and then social realities coming to play and it involves trying to get to Spain in search of You Know Better Life not quite sure what you're saying you're not quite sure whether it's dream, but it's very very beautifully sustained it continues to be very mysterious.

There's a policeman.

Actor comes in with his own kind of strange narrative thread visually, it's amazing.

I'm in this kind of metallic glow to the colours are extraordinary that he's night skies, which just chrome and his amazing colour of dark metallic colours the music very honest well.

It doesn't feel quite 100-percent African there's a kind of course these sort of distorted substring synthesizers and it's absolutely mesmerizing is very much a female film as well.

It's very much from the heroines point of view.

I would be very surprised if we saw anything in the Hindu festival white resemble.

It doesn't resemble any African film I've seen it's really something quite strange and beautiful really really wasn't admired the ambition of it, but I don't think that she has a confidence as a filmmaker yet to to pull it off I felt that timing.

Meander along for no real purpose, I think it was very beautiful, but I thought it was models and yes, I guess the point is meant to be model but it was modelled in a way which I didn't enjoy having to work way too hard with it.

It wasn't really giving me but then I have just walked out of it and sometimes you need to process films and then taking the time to get to grips with them, but my first impression was no not for me at all you a picture of you.

What did you feel coming into the festival but it will see you in Tarantino shows his phone whether it's something that should be in competition or not to say personally.

I'm not remotely bothered that Miley call Terence

The competition from the film in the showreel on opening night and I thought oh dear it did seem to message that kind of Terrence Malick film again Tarantino I'm afraid this morning me out for years so I wanted to discover something new in competition and I think this year could be exciting Jessica house nose is genuinely unpredictable director says really see what she's going to come up with in little Joe it's interesting that sax his generally been regarded as a sort of your safe and sound sometimes director is in there.

I can't wait to see what he's come up because I think he's often underrated and misunderstood selling Sharma in a really coming to the limelight in competition for the first time and making what looks like a nineteenth century costume drama, so that's certainly going to be interesting and I'm

Intrigued by the wild goose Lake by DL who made black coal Thin Ice I think it was it was one of the stand out in Berlin a few years ago and this has been described in the opening press conference by being something like Chinese Fritz Lang certainly the had a favour have done playing it and I think it's incredibly advertising really looking forward to that and what are you most excited about when they was so, what are you looking forward to an intense memory of girlhood here and it was just one of those thrilling moments.

We just feel that you are festival cinema and what we come to cancer and Celine sciamma with portrait of a Lady on fire Jessica housing with little Joe then.

We also have Justine triet at the end with SIM

we already had married yet, so that's for female directors in a 21 film lineup does can get too much criticism for not programming enough women directors United Theory says is it necessarily his responsibility it doesn't like for the back in the industry unfair to blame the programmers entirely because they can only work with what they've got and you could say that this year cannot stand full times as well as Venice whichever you manage to have One Direction competition last year although one might say that was not the right film and you know I mean there is so many women directly in France in Austria in other countries and you wonder whether they are looking for and white and Amy would have been interesting to know if Rebecca zlotowski, Freestone

Considered one of the sections whether she's been considered for a competition slot certainly one of these for my job is really something and you know she's put yourself on the map very decisively and I think striking a blow for some the invoice in African Cinemas well and can always mention Quentin Tarantino being back in competition Terrence Malick is here John pierre-luc garden or back in competition with there for me on Ahmad also a director who was here 2 years ago film Korean filmmaker bong joon.

Ho which unfairly for him perhaps kind of was the one of the triggers for the eventual Netflix can Film Festival does Ken miss having Netflix titles in its competition?

Netflix is not this big evil entity rich is raining cinema.

It's actually getting behind and producing some really great cinema.

There are obviously many Netflix model but I think it's stupid to pretend that they're not producing great stuff and getting behind stuff and can is a letter for not showing Netflix rated films in big letters the director's name comes love the problem is it's very easy not to know or indeed to care who the director of something is you know if you don't know who's directed it you to look for it.

I think a lot of directors of my Netflix and no one knows that it's fair and no one knows I made it so I think if your invested in motoculture as can is.

May very well field at Netflix has been filmmakers and deserve it as far as I'm really looking forward to the new film I have been a fan for a long time although I have to say I could not stand I think it was really it was ugly and it was bloated and I felt it's at I completely misfired, but he's a really interesting devious and inventive filmmakers with only talk about competition so far, but there is so much more I can with the various different side bars directors fortnight.

Obviously not part of can but then insert regard which is what what have you seen so far? That's had impressed you.

What are you looking forward to this morning? I saw something which I had no knowledge of some of those wonderful fortuitous things where you just think ok? That looks interesting.

I'll go and I managed to get in with one there and then we danced so I live in Eken it's a children's Swedish co-production set in Georgia and it's isn't that we have seen many.

Against the backdrop of not particularly friendly environment so in this case it's Georgian national Dance relationship with a girl and then you dance and joins the tree but he's brilliant and there's a competitive rivalry between them but also something more it's a very elegant example of something that we have seen before I'll be honest.

I've seen it many times before but it's done so well acted as a great the Dancers phenomenal the music the energy to it is great the sexual tension.

I particularly one thing about it most of all is that there is a relationship between the two characters and the Hall of the relationships like without any dialogue, but it's so expressive it's done through looks sensory dance.

Everything apart from dialogue and I loved it and it was great which is a very offbeat comedy by Allah and Jim it's in the critics week and it's almost like a Moroccan Fargo this because it has the same premise of you know the hidden loot but it's also it has that kind of clipped very sudden dry R&A it's told extremely economically and it's one of those little kind of out of nowhere discoveries that in can you know people open themselves to see something unexpected and very enjoyable.

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Think of can wanted springs to mind red carpet leading up the steps of the palais de festival to find out what the Cannes red carpet experience is really like for the actors directors producers sales agents financiers and publicists to flock to the south of France year hoping to see there for a walk up at the festivals top prize the Palme d'Or I spoke to a few people have been up close and personal with it on more than one occasion first.

I spoke to Rebecca O'brien who first started working with motion 1990s on the film hidden agenda since then they have collaborated on 18 films together as well as launching their company 16 films in 2002 with can notes for this is this is my 12 red carpet and kenh14 and actually I do have a producer credit on.

You never really here that in Ramsey film which was on the red carpet couple of years ago, which bounces it up to 13, but I wasn't here so I don't count that record of the Direct and most in the competition by quite some way.

I'm sure there are other producers.

So who have produced more films than I have obviously one of those things.

Where is Great mystique in the film business, so you know I think it's probably ambition for many filmmakers to be on the red carpet.

Can you talk a little bit just about what that feeling is like.

I mean you can never take it for granted and it's something that is always a thrill.

It's a thrill even now 30 years after the first.

Did it and it's just that the French do you have a very special way of getting the filmmakers if they are I think maybe it's something to do with the fact that they don't actually have royalty and so they sort of fur put it all into the royal box if it were this is what they?

Stead is roll out the red carpet for their filmmakers and the festival do treat the filmmakers royally they treat us really really well and the organisation is extraordinarily complex and detailed and I think I was the first time.

I was here was with the hidden agenda in 1990 and to be honest.

I had absolutely no idea what the my job as producer was supposed to be I mean I had a fumes that I was quite an important person being a producer of a Ken Loach film but they did not nobody wanted to speak to me and I learnt very quickly that what the producer does at the film festival is very different from the director does the director and the writer and the actors are there very much to publicize and support the film to the outside world the producer.

I discovered on my first visit their job is to do everything else and to sort of runaround setting up the next filming and organising who goes where it's like.

It's honestly organising a competition filming can is like organising a wedding you have to work out so many details like there is seating plans for the screening there who gets to come to the dinner before who gets to come to the party afterwards who should be at the photocall who featured on the red carpet all those things are really what the producer end up doing so it's like basically being a wedding planner and you get request out of the blue from all sorts of different people for tickets people that you never knew you newcomers the blue then there's a sort of packing orders who sits where this morning.

Since we went to one of the first things you have to do is go to the festival protocol meeting and you go there with your publicity person.

That's Charles McDonald in our case and then also you have to have French publicists, so that's last ronac.

Who's are in charge of the French side of things so they are in charge of movements and present everything like that and then to the protocol meeting you and your sales agent your publicity people your French co-producer your friends due to all meet around the big table and then you discuss Ham e-tickets you're getting in and then you go away with your your tickets which has sudden like gold dust and I've just come from our office where we are sorting the tickets and this year because it could well be our last performance on the red carpet with the camera.

It's gone but you never know we've got a large contingent of Loach family Lodge

Engine to pull laverty's the writer his family pushing out all the film people and getting the family in their work for you is because of the most special thing as about being on that red carpet.

You never take it for granted.

You know you cannot assume that because you're representing a Ken Loach film that it will get into can the film has got to be up to scratch.

You know you are competing with hundreds and hundreds of other filmmakers for that's lord and so we never take it for granted and so the thrill of hearing that you're in can is just amazing so that's the drill.

It's it is very exciting getting into the festival cars to drive down the Crescent even though you can walk it quicker and then to be decanted in front of the red carpet before going with Ken because Ken is so idolise as a filmmaker here in France are films are very popular in France so you know can become the film star here and can and people calling.

Call him and everything it's lovely and then going up the red carpet with actors that people haven't necessarily heard of is a thrill because these are people like Debbie honeywood for instance our lady.

She is a fan of red Carpets she never thought she would be on the red carpet has sell so she's having kittens at the moment.

Just so excited about having a dress like Beckham is dressed her and Alice Temperley provide the dress as well.

So I'm so to go up the red carpet with the two kids and and Chris and Debbie who really done very little in terms of filmmaking before to go up the makeup with them is a thrill.

It's nice to go with them and nice to go with my mates Paul Laverty and Ken Loach thereby pals.

I've been working with the so long now and then I'm in the most amazing thing.

Is is the screening and sitting down your they put a spotlight on you when you go in and you're in the

And then at the end of the film that they throw the spotlight on you and they they could do but for us they usually clap and cheer but that's an amazing feeling too.

It's just you know it's very special.

There's nothing like it in the film World I suppose winning an Oscar might be quite nice, but this is such a forum and its treatment especially and it's what's a nice is the fact that you know Ordinary People as a treated specially it's not that you're a film star to go up that red carpet.

They just want to celebrate good films and the people in them and so that's why it to treat is because and I've been up the red carpet with many unknowns in the past the kids from 1603 kids where they were 17 years old and one of them was Martin compston, who's now in a last week.

I saw him presenting a BAFTA award we discovered.

We paid him a fiver to come to.

So just to have people like that celebrated and not just the big film stars this really but to win the Palme d'Or is something else.

They don't tell you what price you want so it could be one of maybe if they ask Ken to come back.

It could be one of maybe 45 prizes because it could be best director of jury prize at the Grand Prix but only one for the Wind That Shakes The Barley they just said it can come back and we couldn't get there in time so it's ridiculous I think.

Organised at the last minute they found a jet private jet so we got on that we had to rush to Luton to get on his private chairs, which is so absurd give him the films are about team so completely bonkers to arrive in a jet and then and we met on the tarmac by the festival cars with with the motorbike outriders and then you arrive and you're starving so you go to the shop and get a sandwich.

You know you know you've won when you don't win the runner-up prize and the first time that happened.

It was phenomenal moment when we didn't win the Grand Prix and electric can and can't put his head in his hands and he said and are you able to notice a big difference between a year that Ken wins the pond or or maybe you when can is been in competition, but perhaps hasn't come away with prizes.

That is at the

Different Cinemas what then happens in the market affect probably sales and box office and actually even winning depending on who's doing press and my 1 GB price for Angel Share whoever had won the Palme wasn't Hanukkah but the press one to tell me to talk to and Ken was happy to talk we got huge amount of additional property for winning something so that translates into definite box office effect chicken in France so it's sort of Madness but for us.

It's worth it because it pays dividends more people see our films as a result of coming to can Gabriel Stewart is managing director of London based sales and my films which was first set up more than 20-years ago a Oscar-winning producer of Jeremy Thomas at this year's can Gabriel it is focused on closing deals on a number of new Productions on the highway slate including the actor of

Director of debut was she has walked the Cannes red carpet with a number of my titles including the killing of the sacred deer and how to talk to girls at parties with how to talk to girls at parties because we dress models with all the crazy latex costumes that the aliens war in the in the film and I have a little apartment just off the closet and all the models got dressed in there latex before the red carpet in my apartment and I went back to change and I found myself around it by crazy latex dressed and it was extraordinary experience in the whole apartment stank of whatever chemical products.

They were using for getting the models in the latex and yeah.

Hit the red carpet at it was it was wild and reckless great they managed to pass the strip can dress code naively in one of my first went to the red carpet with quite short dress and boots and boots are definitely not accepted will definitely won't accept so I had to run back and change into some normal high-heeled shoes and almost missed at the film red carpet in Cannes very special I'm half French so there's a bit more meaning that for me.

I think we we know in France the red carpet in Cannes is known as limit the steps and there's something about the steps that you walk up at the top can red carpet which is different to any other red carpet and you look when you go up those steps and you look down.

You know I only have the view of all the people walking up up the red carpet.

You have on both sides tons of cameras flashing you got the cars coming.

You got the crowds in the end and there's that perspective at the top of the steps which is completely unique to can anyone who walks up it will turn the top even though having hustled in and I'll tell her you.

See you look down and it is just better and more glamorous and more special than any other red carpet and I think she just call it a red carpet doesn't work for me like any other French person.

They are limit before you go into the red carpet.

What what's that feeling like things are much better now that the press screenings aren't before there was something really wrong now that everything is immediate and we don't wait for print-print to read reviews now that everything is posted online immediately to have the press already judge of film before the world premiere was to Kuwait

The energy in the air out of the Premier because now at least you can enjoy the Premier Inn whether it's well received your not everybody's had their moment the film had a chance to experience in the palais on that big screen with an audience no prejudgment clean fresh forget being part of the film that was so unfair Leanne recently kicked to Pieces by the critics on Friday night and the press conference with the Stars the director was on the Saturday M26 through that press conference and it was all about the press having completely ripped from shred and no one had seen the film yet, but the actual premier and happened.

It was on the Saturday night the end of the Premier it got the most amazing applause and standing ovation because I feel people that it had been so unfair.

It may not have been the best film that she met you but it was a good film and there was it was there was almost shock have violent the critic reaction had been so I think it's such a brilliant thing that it's going to be so we can we can keep the real we can return the sanctity of the world premiere everyone enjoy it.

What does it mean in business terms when you come away with a warder and amazing reception? What does it benefit translate very very meaning for especially in France and Europe for the success of the film and it just it just means that the its own right as received a very very powerful historical Accolade irrespective of the cast all the names involved prizes a big deal, but often the deals at done before so it is about the film being I mean if you have your film competition.

Everyone will go see it.

If it's well received.

You will start making sales.

Usually, you know all the cells of the film has won.

So it's sort of cherry on top you know that everyone feels like there a winner for having picked the film that Warren you know that I got it right when we picked up a prize The Killing of a sacred Deer what's my first can with hanway and in a way.

It's quite brutal when you have a filling competition you have to stay til the bitter end who can we all usually leave a bit earlier because we've done with all our meetings in the market buys with Tuesday the second week, but you stay on but it was all worth it because first time ever I got my name called on the red carpet for the for the closing ceremony.

We got out of the car and they they they named all of us and

Go my name just got call them the red carpet that was very very first time that I never happened.

So that gave me that with frill I have to admit it was it was for me.

I think the worst thing about the fillets that you don't have to drink in there and if you are there especially for their for the opening ceremony, which is the long ceremony followed by an interval when they cleared stage and prepare the screen and then the opening night film starts that's an awfully long time without drinking anything so I used to her special coat that had like Burberry ring an old-fashioned Burberry raincoat with a kind of Poachers Pocket in its lining inside which was big enough to hide a small bottle of water can I use to get away with always carrying that in on my arm with a secret but with the security now.

There's no way you can.

So I've been known said a very unladylike fashion slurp water out of the taps of the ladies would normally never do that.

It's just a drop of water in an egg edition room.

It's impossible.

That's the one thing I would say about the Dive who is ever going to miss can in the film industry.

You have to be in the international can for the first of all the BAFTA for the film Awards no one has had a maximise the red carpet experience for telling better than Liz and directors and producers are often begging her to work on their films behind the experiences of navigate to Cannes red carpet.

There is really only one red carpet.

There are gala screenings in all sections but as a rule if your film is screening in one of the side bars are in another section in the official selection you'll figure out how to get yourself onto the real red carpet for somebody else's screen is only one Redcar it's one of those things that no matter how many times you've done it is very hard to be blase about that experience and where is you might be on your own behalf and you really can't be bothered to get dressed properly to go and do this yet again.

You are inevitably with people for whom.

It is the first time.

It's very very exciting for them by their young or old filmmakers.

Obviously these days everybody takes photographs of everything but the Cannes red carpet.

Very very exclusive photo opportunity.

I'm not sure it was ever probably enforced that that selfie van, but I think people don't realise is that there is an entire virtual military operation behind getting people to the carpet get across the carpet getting into the seats in time to start the film at the appointed hour etc.

It is involved an enormous amount of forward planning.

You don't want it to look regimented, but it has to be there are a lot of films in the timings are really important and unfortunately the selfie taking an any sort of extraneous activity on the carpet.

Away from what we those of us who were promoting the films and those who have made the films are there for which is to get their photograph on the red carpet, but I think maybe try was was being amusing in his pronouncement that it was Buddy I don't know what he said vulgar and stupid or whatever to take pictures of yourself.

That's effective as concerns the red carpet is to make sure that we get clear and evident photographs of the main event and yet wanted it is very important is the dress code movie theatre and hand this is a celebration of cinema.

These are these are opening nights thisisysr premier Caesar

Opening night as an opening night at the theatre or the Opera and it's nice it gives a sense of occasion.

If everybody's dolled up and I suppose that level again for the filmmakers.

It's very nice to say look everybody makes that in effort to make themselves look beautiful 4444 you for your hard work.

There's always mishaps.

I remember being with an actress who's been given down at the last minute that really didn't fit her in together with safety pins and turning her away from all the cameras so that I could put her dress back together before the photographs with taking the there's always mishaps.

There's always somebody who forgot his bowtie in the pocket of his other suit etc.

Etc of course but you make the best of those situations.

The only time it's ever been really a damp squib.

It was literally a damp squib because the heavens open Justice we were getting out of the cars and Allen Brothers and everybody was walking like drowned rats up the steps and that was not particularly elegant, but you know the one thing that is quite hard.

Don't like to hurt anybody's feelings and often times you have to hive people off from the stars of the film and the director you know the times you have to separate somebody from the his or her spouse in that people don't like that.

That's another part of my job, because the reality is that massive group photograph where you can distinguish, who is who will not run and nobody will see it you knowing you write your film here.

An expense and you gotta get some one of the biggest things you get out of it is your red carpet moments and God knows if they don't get what they want.

They let you know sometimes you have to bend to the will of them in the end.

The reality is of course.

It is their commerce business here, but we are also celebrating art in the end.

I think the art should win any particular favourite moments for you over the years after I have a lot of being on the red carpet was really fun because there's somebody huge DAB it doesn't have the Habit of Being star so it was no she was very giggly under with a strange and wonderful experience I think for her so that was fun and more recently for Andrea Arnold's film.

With all of the very very young people in the American Honey who had hardly ever left home before let alone made a movie let alone come to a red heart patient can and all of the kids started to dance and and Shia LaBeouf sweet guy got in the half of all of the young people never done it before that was I have to say that was a formia gorgeous moment and he was dancing at the top of that was a beautiful thing to see and has been leaving the London and Los angeles-based communication from the dead and his company represents many to top film financing production and sales concerns in the industry both in the US and internationally.

If you have chance to see the film before you go into vegetable have it educated guess how it's going to go down and if you have a luxury and maybe testing it with the other journalists in advance you even more of a luxury of going.

I think we might be ok here but the site unseen if you haven't seen it you are just as what's the word concerned as a Genesis is going to be any good or not.

You're all the ingredients can be there mean that we had many years was Marky the cost of Marquee the meaning for powerful socially responsible whatever the film absolutely terrible and everybody just sits with their head in the hands that pressure or see the reactions of going on this is not going to go well this afternoon to get your films selected is such an honour but actually that's just started selection 20cc very very different ways.

You're so generous.

You know that we 10000 films on which the selection committee diligently sees many then I got Aladin and we seen them.

And then and then finally got back half are going to be well review the critical process got to a point where the ocean and it could be for any number of reasons reasons could be grateful to it could be fantastic.

Just on the red carpet in like that.

So that they may not make the grade is worth having you had a nice easy slow ultimate competition slot where all the police that should have been in competition.

That's golden literally the best outcome for everybody you get off you get all the upside that's all you're in the brochure.

You're in the official press review of all of those things with none of the competition it all the credibles weight of should be in competition.

It's way better than you.

Going to be like on my not like that together film trying to get our trade breakdown probably say the directors got a profile peas on the phone and she's got a profile piece all kind of an advance of when that film hits is it it's critically acclaimed everything else follows if it's critically mould you don't that cover just not worth as much the next day.

Could have made a bad but not a good film strategy is a proper conversation that has lots of parties are involved and the film is in its life if you are coming here with the film with this already security solution and dates in mind and here I can go there is no data rock and it's coming up very soon, so the the play for that here is just a great big profile racing hurrah say the film is here in can Elton John Hello all the way.

Potential places sell the film so if you're in special selection secure salvation it because it's clearly in selection can use that as leverage to heighten the where is around the film distributors saying we represent in the film.

It's in competition.

What's in special selection here I can price point up awareness up to make can I see a little early on the trains front when people stop buying some what are looking for that you can really see the trains from a business perspective and still feels as a serious.

You know I'm talking about the decline of the market, but I mean the evidence is that still there is just massive project to come and there's a lot of interest in them from viruses and life goes on.

I think it's probably less people coming but it's alright people so unless holidaymakers from companies here.

There's more people just make decisions so in all the companies represented in.

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