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BBC sounds music Radio podcasts is the BBC turning a deaf ear to up-and-coming musicians with always found BBC introducing to be incredibly supportive of musicians and events and promoters like ourselves the current cuts of very disappointing 6 Music presenter Tom Robinson tells us why he fears BBC cuts will make it much harder for new musicians to get on and also I would say you don't really know Banksy's work.

There is still the king of intriguing story around like the birth of this art form.

Glasgow graffiti artists comes and Kieran are in the box box 2 review radio for the Banksy store and the long wave goodbye.

Please do not move everything online where many of us cannot or do not want to access it please BBC leave.

wave radio alone Lament the Demise of longwave, but first I'm worrying step that shows and neglect of musicians that song music Legends Elton John describe changes to BBC local radio schedules recently on social media chic Nile Rodgers pitch din saying many of these people who live and breathe our local scene face the Threat of losing their positions and not been offered anything in the restructuring BBC introducing aspiring artists to upload their songs to BBC Weather can get picked up and play local radio stations and beyond this championing of new musical Talent has helped launch the careers of stars like Ed Sheeran and little simz butts as part of the wider local radio in England the BBC music introducing local service will be reduced from 30 to music shows to just 20 but we ask Chris Burns controller of Loki

Commissioning to discuss the changes to BBC introducing but she didn't respond to our request one particularly vocal critic of the changes is 6 Music presenter Tom Robinson advocate for BBC introducing shows on local radio around the country BBC introducing the network of radio shows right across BBC nations and regions and BBC local shows on local radio in England and it was set up really because after John Peel died in 2004 suddenly.

There was nowhere that no musicians could send the demo tapes and have a chance of getting heard outside the usual commercial music industry, so when John passed away the head of music and radio Jenny bramski at the time in 2007 had his brain wave of utilising the power of local radio to actually reach out there and make it possible for people to send.

Demos and stuff just digitally upload it to their local show and all that huge amount of listing which is an impossible amount of stuff being made these days would get done by the local shift it and play the very best from the region two people in the region and the beauty of that was that if you heard it on your local radio station the local and you and then you get a chance of an interview or a local session and some people can build up a little career without having to pay money to anybody have to pay pluggers to get years of record producers anything so it's kind of hand up for the little guy.

Hi, my name is Nick Cheshire and I make atmospheric indie rock under the name indigo daydream Dan in Devon for me BBC introducing is like a magic portal to connect my music with the exact.

Been noticed being heard and getting your music played on the BBC was a life-changing experience for me Tom I love the phrase magic portal and I just wonder if you can give us an idea of the kind of impact that BBC introducing has for many young artists you know the introducing what you sent it off someone Morrison and if they place on the radio that validation and what's more because we've got this network.

I constantly get at my 6 Music show dozens and dozens of tracks a week from all my friends and local stations around the country.

Do I know my name and no there taste there sending me the very best tracks and I can put together an hour of music every that's the cream of what's been submitted around the country and it's just incomparable.

I love it.

Originally from Dudley and their lives in Epsom and also an average live music fan with a reduction in BBC introducing and the closure of many small venues, how do we provide opportunities for aspiring young artists who don't come through via the stage schools and parents funded lessons we lose this potential new artists whose music is generated from more experienced.

Does this reduce the potential for Political messaging diversity and ultimately the UK platform on the global music stage one of the reasons why Britain has such a huge export in music compared to any other country from the USA is the BBC and the way that we have nurtured Talent outside the commercial industry.

Hello, my name is Sarah Wilson and Ivan tracks Darlington we put on the last train home Festival

We've always found BBC introducing to be incredibly supportive of musicians and events and promoters like ourselves the current cuts of very alarming and disappointing looking at the map.

It feels like the northeast has been left behind well the North in general is been left behind and things are becoming even more london-centric exactly and I spent 10-years on Teesside so I know radio Tees and I know the presenters have been doing the introducing shows there and we had amazing Music come out of Teesside like benefits and Amelia Coburn many many others but the same goes to the northeast general in Newcastle on Tyne is constantly sending me brilliant tracks every week as miles removed from what's going on in London Yorkshire in particular is a cause for grave concern if the stations get merged West Yorkshire with the whole Leeds Bradford to Huddersfield

Accommodation Halifax and the whole of the Calder Valley up there, that's a huge catchment area with some Unique musical life and then Sheffield and Rotherham and Doncaster a whole other South Yorkshire culture going on and the plan is currently to merge two to our shows into 12-hour Show repeated once a week and a half the number of artists get paid and I won't be that local connection in the same way and so I'm deeply concerned that we really need to come.

Please people the thing was about John Peel show his listenership was tiny compared to the rest of radio one, but it's influence on music with just inestimable and I think here state is being made of looking at the listener figures for the Honor broadcasts and seeing how low those are thinking all we can do without that doesn't take into account what a life-changing difference it will make too.

To be played locally hello, my name is John I'm from London on the section of the nation that already underrepresented feels like another race to the bottom of the music that I can experience it doesn't make sense time.

Have you been consulted at all? I've been talking to the people BBC introducing central where they kind of throwing up their hands in despair, because I haven't been consulted been a few kind of half-hearted zoom meeting to get cut short and we had music experts from the industry coming in and giving their opinion and not being listened to broadcast radio has a special place in the hearts of the young generation is a connection.

We don't want to throw away lightly.

I'm interested in that because I think we are assuming that young people are going up in a digital age listening to.

Online all they actually listening to local radio doesn't really make a difference between young artist today and the way that it might have done 20 years ago being broadcast on the radio does make a difference for musicians and fans in a way that it doesn't for the Casual listener, so I think it's in the era of music creation and music promotion that the BBC being played by the BBC on BBC Radio just had a special magic to it that can still kickstart careers even as a tiny local level and it's so valuable and the cost is infinity compared to the BBC Travel budget.

It doesn't sound like you're going to let this lie.

What are you going to do next you know? I'm just going to get on with what I do is which is once a week to 2 or 300 songs picking my favourite 18 and putting them on a podcast on BBC sounds but also on BBC Radio 6 music that's the key thing it does have a

As well as being online.

I think that's got to be the future if we can possibly find some way of doing things around and hanging on to it.

Thank you so much for joining us some feedback BBC spokesperson said BBC introducing is a huge operation from BBC music and is completely dedicated to supporting me music the shows on our local radio station are just one part of that are revolutionary uploaded tool allows artist everywhere to easily share tracks with the BBC to be selected for Airplay on radio TV format major festivals the BBC introducing audience can rest assured we are continuing to invest in and support new music and plan to do so long into the future.

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And you can send a WhatsApp voice notes to the same number you can always tweeters at BBC R4 feedback now Radio 4 is the Banksy story is a series produced and presented play Banksy Supervan James Peake it tells the story of the anonymous artist rise from local graffiti artist to international art here James lifts the lid on the on the artist pulled even arranging for one of his best-known works to be shredded after it was sold for just over a £1000000 at auction house Sotheby's in London Gallery of Modern Art 2 host his first solo exhibition in 14 years cut and run opened in June and soon after there was a controversy around the stencil of a rat prepared on a wall near the gallery was it a real Banksy all will be revealed by the to Glasgow graffiti artists or vauxbox to review the Banksy story.

European tour in Glasgow full-time artist part-time heart from work together for about 10 years in Glasgow on most travelled around a bit together and painted Euros in various cities and countries over the last decade but what length are still angry are we actually fake the banks and not an obvious fake Banksy about my pizza art around the corner for is the exhibition space welcome to see story.

I'm James peak and we're chatting Banksy's arise from local vandal to the most famous and infamous artist alive.

That's a good job of like not just keep it strictly about Banksy and his work because then that would only be interested in a certain audiences.

You would like to do or Banksy fans the Hot Gossip of bags.

Behind the scenes of I eat the drama that's happened as fascinating stuff.

If you don't really know Banksy's work.

There is still looking out intriguing story around like the birth of this art form and him talking to people who are there on the ground when it was becoming nothing was like really cool.

He had some oil paintings by Banksy where he ordered them some vandalised oil painting each print sold for £350 was a big deal when you got a sale for £350 been like one of the main protagonist in it by things she was saying really interesting like over and above her like personal experiences.

I sound like when she was talking about painting on walls back in the day and that was first immersion side of it.

I thought she was really good.

I don't think it's possible to make all about world poverty and then transfer the cash and I only till far even for me.

Show me the voices that utilised to be the different banks throughout the stages of his career some of them.

I thought that's quite funny when it works offended by the Scottish accent artists have an obsession that defines their work money had light Hockney had colour.

I've got police response time at least you're being represented Brighton pub, are we going in for a quick? I'm really wanted to show you the graffiti on the wall directly opposite the male really going for it going off with it.

Do the memory of what is referencing but it's still enjoyable regardless if you're not like if you're Banksy megafinal whatever there's still a lot of like you learn from it.

Just as an artist Alex Duncan the soundman.

Kersey he played the role of the carer Everyman outsider that he was someone that was sitting being like what does deceiving mean like why is there since I think you can I needed that kind of writing it you can call him like the foil of the other direction and Bob like you didn't speak now.

He must be middle-aged anymore and I'm wondering if it's probably like stay in cos we are part of generation is used to seem like audio and visual together.

I would love to see it one day one YouTube like in have videos that go with it.

Listen to radio generally just consume Media offer YouTube Spotify the same for me.

It's not so bad habit.

I guess it's not realising the other streamers that still associate radio with music and adverts you know I've not got any actually get good quality stuff hidden gems like to listen to it softer side of you guys like tennis or tomorrow to get through them not just cos it's like life gets in the way and things happen, but that's a bit babe.

It's the best way of doing it in one day.

I feel a lot of it.

I realised to the timing of making the trolls probably like not clear by imagine that you know by the end of the episodes in that the Glasgow idea.

It was plugged in on the back end of the podcast but I was quite disappointed that I never tried to speak to you tonight.

Maybe if it doesn't work and come back and talk to you as well.

Thanks to you and Kieran I'm listening to their comments producer and presenter all thanks.

He saw himself James speak.

I love going away one of the best fakes have ever seen what did you think of their take on your podcast clearly got something out of it which is really great to hear because I'm a huge fan and the fact that those guys who are at the sharp end of business really encapsulating the Spirit of street.

Art that they got something out of it was really lovely to hear I would say in Defence of the Scottish voice voice noting that was supposed to be the bigger than that was supposed to be Billy Connolly and I thought it was a good Billy Connolly all the voices were done by this incredible guy, Keith Wickham who did you give him a name and he can conjure up their voice within about 30 seconds if he hasn't got it quicker than that.

The end of the piece their Glasgow artist referred to the possibility of a follow-up what you thinking about making any more.

Oh well the thing is there is so much more to say obviously when you were with radio for spaces limited and we have 10 episodes, which was it was brilliant at the network gave us that much time to explore this incredible thing but they they were convinced it, but there's so much more he's done in 25 years, so he spent a month in New York City evading the City police and putting up a new piece everyday by the Waldorf hotel in the occupied territories in Palestine there's all these amazing things he's done the we just didn't have time to look at and I would absolutely love to to pile into those as individual episodes and maybe that will happen.

I don't know but many more stories to be told thank you very much indeed for telling this.

Thank you.

Thank you very much for having no for the final time on test match special.

Thank you.

We are sending a Radio 4 longwave listers away for the shipping forecast historic moments in broadcasting there as Australian cricket commentator Maxwell hands over to the shipping forecast on test match special for the last time broadcast on long wave frequency is by the BBC including the shipping forecast produced by the Met Office on the maritime and Coastguard Agency will end in March 2024 Familia time to anyone has listened on longwave, but it's all coming to an end with the forthcoming closure of the Long platform as the technology is coming to the end of its life or test match special was broadcast for the final time on longwave this summer in future listeners.

Will have to switch to Radio 5 live.

BBC signs from March 2020 for the shipping forecast will be available on Radio 4 FM yesterday in parliament and the daily service will be on Radio 4 Extra and let's hear what a long wave listen there think I've ever been to live in West Oxfordshire I was very saddened to learn of the closure of BBC Radio 4 from longwave next year I can see that radio station to be an iconic piece of British Broadcasting history.

I worry that the older demographic in the struggle with DAB radio in particular.

I also in today's very volatile world does it make sense to close down the one radio transmission that can be heard across the entire country.

Hello my name is Ian Brown I wanted to feed that that I and many others remain grateful for Radio 4 broadcast on long wave I and my wife travel by campervan and previously by yacht and the longwave medium wave broadcast allow us to keep in touch and we only you.

Small multi band handheld radio, it's not convenient cost-effective or possible to use the internet in many circumstances, thanks for keeping Radio 4 alive on long way, please.

Don't let it sis have a feeling there will be an increased need in the future a BBC spokesperson said we announce that we would end separate long way scheduling anticipation of the closure of the platform which is owned and operated by a third party to the end of its life as a technology and whilst the audiences Radio 4 longwave a very small we know he still tuning for programs such as daily service and test match special.

No programs will close and the BBC has been running a targeted information campaign since the spring to ensure listeners know how the favourite programs elsewhere on the BBC from March 2024 when separate scheduling ends also sheds some light on the Demise of longwave.

It's Gareth Mitchell former BBC engineer.

Electro at London's Imperial College so the pre-internet technology for getting audio and radio programmes in two years into a living rooms is cost transmitters around the country and back to a little bit of High School physics.

We have the radio spectrum is broken up into different kind of wavelength and the longest wavelength that we use fair broadcast radio anyway is guess.

What longwave so has long-wavelength and one thing we like about longwave is that the longer the wavelength of the signal travels.

See you need for a transmitters because he can get the whole country with one main transmitted and two supplementary ones.

We've had comments from listeners like Dr to buy a Thorn in Worcestershire listen to Radio 4 longwave everyday not only for the daily service but also as my go-to means of listening to normal radio for a and indeed my go-to source for news of any kind.

I can attest that the technology.

Not outdated or redundancy but I find online listening inconvenient and difficult I do not own a smartphone and cannot listen to BBC sounds while away from my computer.

Where is most of my listening is one on the move to navigate to a website to find a program is far less convenient and simply clicking on the switch on my portable longwave radio Radio 4 longwave.

I shan't bother to online order many people who are in the situation still today Radio 4 listeners will be adversely affected by longwave disappearing.

I think to be a problem and these are people who don't want to use the internet maybe don't use smartphones or they they can't use a smartphone maybe they don't have very good reception for their smartphones at home the date my older people as well and I think I'm losing long way.

There is a danger that a significant number of people will be failed in away by the BBC's supposed.

All of those who pay the licence fee to fund it so few people do listen to longwave now and the transmitters maintenance cost there's an energy cost as well, which has been relatively little spoken about tell me then why you think it should stay is there a commercial reason for keeping it just simply that there is a public service reason for keeping it because the whole point as the BBC very often says is it needs to be accessible for everyone who pays the licence fee sure so I think there are operational reasons why it needs to be there to carry on serving those audiences.

May be in rural Communities where they don't have great mobile phone signals and where they still be from that almost not quite but almost blanket coverage from longwave.

So there's that reason and also another one which is that this is a pre-internet techno.

And so I think some of the listeners themselves are saying that this is all about resilience just within the transmission infrastructure that should be a mix of Internet of BBC sounds FM DAB and indeed longwave and when you think that you can blanket almost anyway the whole country and areas indeed of Europe near the nearest the UK with a single transmitter effectively even though there are actually three of them total then it just makes sense so that you know if other systems pack up.

Hey you still got longwave Radio 4 is part of critical national infrastructure Radio 4 listeners and test match special listeners.

Keep being reminded that they will be able to hear crickets across the different platforms a couple of feedback Leicester's got in touch with us to say that of course a lot of people listen to cricket in their cars unless your car has div.

You won't be able to listen to it anymore with you.

Exactly they listen to in their cars or maybe just in the shed at the bottom of the garden.

Will they still have that lovely old longwave radio they've had since 1970 and they don't really want to have to go and buy a DAB radio for thank you very much because I have a perfectly good that works on long way together plenty of settings in which people will say was just going to be a whole lot harder for me to hear my beloved test match special and indeed the forecast and other longwave only content on here because we've been talking about the dem is a long way for quite some time and yet.

We're still don't have a definite date for when the transmitters going to be turned off your absolutely and I can't help thinking that the baby.

I'm just slightly hoping actually there might be some kind of you to some kind of stay of Execution just give us another few years at least and you're right just on and off over the years.

It's just one of these.

Perennial b BBC that long way it's going to be switched off and I think I even have a faint memory of in my school days in the 1980s my best friend's mother went on a protest in our local town and they blocked up a zebra crossing and it is in the days of like CND and save the whale and this is a protest to save longwave even those days and in a rural community where long for most people the only way they could get Radio 4 so I would hope there'll be some room to reconsider.

Thanks to Gareth Mitchell that's all for this week for me.

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The first looks like some kinds of monkey of a yeti like creature has been around for centuries, but could it be real in Yeti a new 10 part series from BBC Radio 4? I'm going to try to find out I'll be joined by.

You said we were going for a short walk across the valley horsey this search isn't going to be easy disappear.

Are we chasing fans Jesus never find them.

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