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Radio 1 in the 90s did strategy for the BBC Disney in Europe and now a kid's Media globetrotter it for Upton hello.

Hi nice to be back.

How are you? I'm good I'm happy globetrotting a little bit.

I went to India which was interesting about the Indian government to go and talk about animation.

They think I know something about it.

I know it's a bit so nice to think about the in the building where modi holds all of his big events.

There was no Wi-Fi that because they designed in such a way that it just could not accommodate routers so no Wi-Fi so you actually because I know this is going on today skills, or is that 500 animation studios in India and the Indian animation market for domestic is quite healthy for what they can do is hit the different standards for international trying to export.

That's where the money is and so they're trying to learn how to reduce global hits from just local it's just come back from their own globetrotting but more enjoyable.

It's a lovely to be here.

I'm very good you more parallel turns autosleeper.

I I mean that normally I don't actually turn my skis.

I just go down and my friends are always been on holiday with said this was the first time that we went skiing that the word perpetually worried about you actually managing to now do subtle ternion starts happy for myself something about this week is the right outpouring of support and for the interest in Steve people's lives for the last 40 years.

Looking at the front pages of the nationals probably every national newspaper had a picture of Steve Wright on the front and I can't think of many people who get front covers and haven't done anything bad and I'm a very privileged that I guess I mean in two ways of his boss Steve didn't really needed boss and Incredibly hardworking guy and he was doing 2 till 5 on Radio 1 for 1920 years and he coming at 9 with his McDonald's breakfast and sit down and he works he was a real working.

I mean he was fantastic.

They go to the wooden understood what we wanted.

You know he was great with his guests to manage to bring all the production staff into the into the show I mean invited me in to do voice it and of course I see me.

Yes, I'll do voices with Steve Wright in the afternoon in be one of his afternoon boys are they couldn't be afternoon boys now boys and girls.

I mean I think you'd mind for his creativity.

Work is shear ability to survive in a world that changes you know then 23 years on on Radio 2 Jim Moir really was the guy who got in back having fallen out and do the brick show everyone didn't really work out and together again.

I worked on that strategy which was Jonathan Ross on Saturday Steve Wright on Sundays to reinvent Radio 2 and of course the rest was history and Steve Steve sends me after a year.

He said that he said thank you for that.

I've got my leverage back and needed afternoons on Radio 2 very successfully somebody obituaries incredibly focused on production and audiences could be quite Mercurial as well and sometimes that's helpful in trying to stay to say yeah, it is I mean I found him quite difficult to persuade and Influence you know you had to influence you couldn't tell you had to persuade him and you know you he would listen, but he was

That was part of his strength.

He was also very shy of course you know Grace in front of a microphone, but didn't really like doing the Radio 1 roadshow will not really didn't really work on Top of the Pops his own studio at work now so ready to with curtains around and say you couldn't look into the studio.

When is on the air cos he was sort of creating this world of all these characters and and stuff when he wants to be you know intimate with the microphone.

Is it worth and talk to the audience and not be distracted by all the stuff around and that was part of the strength sad loss.

He went out to literally on there on Sunday and then died in a literally 48 hours later, so I guess that's probably he wants to go because he devoted his life to his radio show he did say that there is a something so you still about him by the fatback ok? You are on Radio 2.

So obviously you are having a poo listenership, but it was a fat heaters allowed anybody in at 5, I was so taken just buy

Attributes that wearing just how it crossed so many different generations earlier this week.

I think it also caused.

I mean when you listen to radio useful think about the times and what you were listening to it when I was listening to this in my parents from my dad was taking me to the swimming pool when I was 8 and I think it sort of feels that when somebody like that.

He's been a part of your life for many years passes away you feel like you losing connection to your past as well.

It is it is so so sad.

I think there's something about his ability to connect with people despite the fact that he was quite private person.

You don't really know much about his life and his way of communicating with your agents that mean specifically going and remembering that it's only speaking to one person not a mass amount of people it is that's I think I think it was also noticeable that Greg James your course is the Radio 1 host and for breakfast he plays Steve Wright theme on on Wednesday morning then the following morning.

The geeky lost weight but I would feel that actually to his audience to think that they were feeling that lost to it wasn't just for Greggs benefit.

I think it was also for the listeners.

We talking about audiences been training becoming a smaller he sort of one of the last truly mass media operators Steve Wright it up anything particularly talk about the winter about those those front pages and the climb 2 response because he had that connects over so many years and on the radio which is a great medium make part of their lives manage that it is I mean if you got the audience to because they were very very problem.

He wasn't all bringing older or younger really had a go back to the old days that maybe ILR when it had a very Broad in the Steve Wright was really that rather than being segmented to it to her two younger and it's just for coming here bumped into Bob shennan with her cup of coffee in the same place.

BBC boss and you know he was saying how he generally felt City lost a member of the family you know it was it was it was grieving and I think very few people could probably have that swim packed on on on so many people and a lot of people were inspired influenced by himself of course you know I borrowed from America new format CD from Kenny Everett but he created his own saying the other thing you have to say is he was an absolute ratings magnet when he came on at 14 on Radio 1 the ratings went up needed the same thing on on Radio 2.

He was very popular with many Ward 20 at the Awards unit Sony radio one conversation people didn't really want to vote for him.

It's funny.

I think maybe now they might change.

Love you.

Yes, please radio and he was saying you there is a unique skill in be able to do the day today really well everyday and not suddenly by of the world's most innovative broadcaster b.

The same records every day different ordered a different way is a real skill that long-term plan think that radio is a stepping-stone to TV and therefore your beautiful couple of years you can tell Steve you know with Steve Wright Radio was him through and through like didn't really have them involvement with do top of the TV didn't like it actually he didn't really want to be photographed you wanting to create this image.

He didn't want to be in have you seen I mean it 3 hours a day you know long time that we compared two different sure different type of dog was together is Rodger Scott who did for us today and he was the same he didn't want TV he wants to be a radio presenter who talked to the audience and related to the audience and Steve him Roger in many ways are very similar in their philosophy strong presence with audiences John Stewart return to The Daily Show this week there comedy show.

He's just doing a single day Scott did you see his photo.

I did I was I mean John Stewart is like the gold standard of late nights at I so the fact that he was able to get back into it was a shock but there was a bit like I wait hang on this for so many years and he invented this sort of late night form.

I'm in the ratings for really good.

I think the most viewed for that price for 5-years also paramount used to be very adverts of putting things on the internet now they actually put the whole thing on straight away and that has think on the look on YouTube 16million to seems to have a bit of a connection.

I think he's a bit of an anomaly though when it comes to late night Saturday I mean, I think there's been a 60% drop in the ratings for late night TV shows in the US I think streamers have really struggle to try to do a show the Alexa news.

I think just because the mentality of Wanted on Netflix is on forever whilst cable.

Late night TV shows over here can reflect on the following last week's oil or the last day so I can see why he's only doing it once a week.

It is interesting that I think a bit like last week tonight with John Oliver please just focusing on the last week, but have two isn't that daily need now for sure.

I think it's less of a daily weekly show now to be honest to see whether he can get back to being interest with audiences.

He's also become a producer of here and it's sort of leader get rid of creative renewal as well.

Yeah, I mean I think I was reading a sing some grass the other week about how much do it has been a decline in The Daily Show viewership.

Of course that's coming out time when in the US many people cutting cable, so it's really about whether you're able to have a single consistent voice beyond John certain apps for for next-generation.

I think they're show is being guilty or something that I think so many shows that gives you about the moment.

Just having rotating hosts.

I think we can show.

Not able to get the consistency and when you're wanting something to reflect on the news of the day you want to be over in a what is this person's point of view you don't have to turn on the TV in to say who is it this time.

I need to go back.

He's made a few quid.

You can sort of do what you like see had somewhat free rate at 0.25.

He didn't have enough.

Do you think he's come back because he's got something to say rather than wanting the bank account film.

He probably missing a dimension you know he has got things to say he wants to share them.

I think he is enjoying it exactly what you're saying about the relationship.

It's not a new show where the host is it in material is actually about him and if you like him.

It's like liking a columnist in a paper isn't it? You want to read what that person's got to say and we're instant what to say and he's come back and he's probably still got things to say so good on it viewers a big news story about the Super Bowls audience figures 123.4.

Numbers always slightly complex and may change over time she was online about this being like the highest number since the moon landings.

Yeah, perhaps baby true that is the case of when they always say since records began, and then you look down when you go to yourself for when did records in a back in the 70s 80s 90s impossible to read easily track how many people are watching this? There's a lot of obsession about this obviously it hits a high benchmark in the US but for big sporting occasion.

It does not reflect accurately really where TV is now which is going for a difficulty in the US of large cutbacks bouncing cutbacks in the last week CBS news announcing the same network as who are the Super Bowl announcing got back to the following day and then in the same case looks like the UK most watched.

I thinking in the top-10 you had the Queen's funeral from just over a year ago, but of course we have seen linear TV viewing changes.

I think it shows to me that when it does matter when when people do so I find that the TV is necessary to turn to they turn to it in a big way, is it an anomaly or does it actually play the directions to leave your TV needs to take does it have to be big live events because straighteners and others have stolen other formats.

No, I think I agree with roughly 59 hours to nonlinear in the US and the other 50 is cable plus broadcast but Super Bowl is you know it's hard to understand.

How big is Super Bowl is and I think there is still this.

This is one time when everyone comes together and because it's only available on Broadcast networks everyone gravitates to it, and I do think they're still at need that human need for sort of shared the Queen's funeral or it's the Super Bowl I mean there was another fact is I guess there's also the measuring mobile out of home via the first time you have helped a bit.

Good match was very needle 25:23 close and Taylor Swift is probably also helps to get there do come together.

You know everything is very fragmented and this is something that in the US is a phenomenon.

You cannot underestimate.

How big it is.

I was talking about it.

I should have my number so big and you're joking.

You don't know why I don't really but it's just in it.

It's so in the DNA it's it's a must must must be said global should start off about 3% of its workforce according to the Guardian is this economy is this underperforming is this the world? I mean? I think it's a combination as in most things at the moment by a combination of factors.

I think there's a lot of consumer confidence and somebody taking out subscriptions.

There's been rumours that paramount might be the sort of eating up perhaps by HBO

And on the other one now they're all into one of my head independent group of maybe come together to to buy paramount Warner Brothers just at the moment such on the map of my favourite Heroes Who at the moment.

So so I think at the moment like you.

Obviously you want to have a tight ship in order to be a try to be bought by think they also just a sense at the moment.

I mean each week is so depressing at the moment because he's week starts with another round of Media layoffs paramount have sorted missed out on the Boom upper streamers have they haven't really managed to do it? Will they came late? I think they launch was pretty good.

You know I mean they they start the Yellowstone and the Star Trek franchise.

That's a good start, but they have got problems that they can't launch northern European markets got the right to tied up with Sky and with others so I can't they can't do that until his rights expire you could you could be right?

The day off I'm getting myself ready to be bought or it could be defensive it could be in fact that they don't want to be bought one of those Discovery have got a massive debt they overpaid to servicing that debt alone.

I watering some every month power might want to remain independent.

I think you know of any content producer you actually want paramount remain independent is there more buyers there are mattresses for the production community, so I'm hoping in fact.

I'm out doing by Warner Bros Discovery walking tour office in the following evening.

She left it was announced on the Monday in the president of international and Emily are very well.

Of course.

I'm a Disney on ITV days, and they said they're going to focus on Hollywood hits, so the nice to say hard to do hard to do but I'm getting released this week and spend less on content we don't think we need to spend as much to maintain are based you see Disney you know the latest report.

There're down by a million revenue went up on the back of the price like which was expected.

So you have you seen a repositioning here you know we're not we're not about having as much as we won between f optimised content in we going to maybe accept a smaller and smaller base what we going to focus on the on the financial the bottom line for change this week that Piers Morgan is to come off at talk TVs broadcastchannel and move the show exclusively to YouTube that is the end of linear talk.tv if you mean stars off.

I mean it is a heck of a PR had a real good go the hand while I'm away for the liner.

They says oh now by going onto YouTube with unshackled ourselves and linear TV at my sentence with having fun in this for some time just because they've been intrigued by weather opinionated TV can really take cold in this country and I think it's been 3/4.

Certificate and it's about 300000 viewers by April April 2023 an episode of 22000 was the fall of 95% in July in episode of Jason Jacob rees-mogg on GB news had 100000 was Piers Morgan had only 14000 and then velocity at midnight repeat of Nigel Farage on GB news had more than 2-years hat so yes, he is getting particularly long form interviews quite well on YouTube and a bit of a 40 mm 6 million with Ronaldo that half a million for Rishi Sunak maybe but I mean if you I mean, it's just if you look at how many of those has compared to the actual rest of the videos.

It's not really stacking up.

I mean like and I guess he can say right all just forget a lot of the other nonsense.

Doing the show and focus on maybe doing one big story and trying to land it.

Maybe not having a daily release like a wish you would be title with a data release but I still don't think this is the same as a win.

I still think there's been a massive massive financial failure for them and I also think that it puts the rest of Torksey up for Dave Dave managed to change the Host to be very much focused as being a live streaming TV channel in the ratings of not really broken phone has caused a considerable amount of money the other weekend because listening to talk radio of course all the branding all the words you hear from the DJs all saying you're watching Talk TV if you think this radio station is confusing that a brand is confusing so it's been a lot of reporting.

I think Adam showing in the I saying I leave this week's that there's rumours about speculation, but maybe it will be refunded to sun TV

It's a big been a costley costley costley investment that has been talking to TV news about whether there's that position or or combination news does what it does well for that audience figures ok? You know is national low but they're married and have never been able to match or they have the opening hours for 100000 on a daily basis.

It's still not high but it's still a build build on what he's doing and Paul to the only needs 100000 you know big right-wing fans and the influence networks people behind it rather than it being a broadcast project about the goals isn't it? If you want to make a business is going to make a big financial Returns probably not the business to be in whatever you think of GB news the difference is GB news Dr stand for something you'll know what GB news is love it or hate it.

I think talk to you though.

You don't really know what it stands for and there are plenty of other places to.

The far is Piers Morgan is concerned you know he is about making sure his name is out there mean Piers Morgan is brilliant isn't here seeding a story and it's about Piers being controversial and say something and he's a good broadcast YouTube is the second biggest social platform in this country 44 million people use YouTube so in terms of reach him reaching People YouTube the great place for him.

So the Piers Morgan it stick for a talk to you be probably death well.

I've seen last week that Ofcom that clear post Neil Oliver of complaint Scott Jamieson having take in The Guardian this week.

Did you see what she says the whole thing about the GB news basically having this story by Neil Oliver that was gonna casually mentioning quote unquote turbo cancer been linked to vaccines and then Ofcom coming back in say where are we now?

Personal point of view we're not going to actually launch investigation about it and I think what so telling is.

What's a shopping is like you making it making you go OK what does what does launch investigation and I think James article and also points out about is a bit obtuse.

It seems to be in the case that the outcome no for themselves exactly what does the rules and what could potentially not break the rules and it's very much like GB news itself is really to seeing where the line is itself and trying to push that as much as it physically.

Can you have a look at the broadcasting codes over the last 4 year of last 20-years and try and at least navigate through them and sometimes.

I mean I read some of the sum of these things and I am I'm surprised that managing to sort of get away with Mr difference between of news and current affairs content and basically can.

News content you can sort of get away with much more.

Yeah, I mean it is difficult isn't it? I mean no one's going to argue for reducing free speech in this country of course not me know that we have such strong journalism is actually quite a strength of this country however.

I was surprised because I will hang on a second what about people who have lost loved ones here.

You know what about the fact that this might discourage people from taking vaccinations to the PC mentioned earlier.

I mean that the impact on measles inoculations in a few of kids have been inoculated was clearly very bad so I was surprised.

I mean I don't want to criticise Ofcom but the happy one or two strange decisions by Ofcom recently not just this one in a the BBC local radio 1 in various others.

I just wondering about this one.

I was a bit surprised is this the challenge of dealing with a multimedia world like when it was a regulator that basically regulated probably the main 4chan.

And then a bit of cable and satellite, but it didn't really caused the much trouble fixed number of radio channels didn't have to worry about the internet that actually was pretty manageable plus you need broadcast in the UK in sky BBC pretty much is good and fine and doesn't drift into any of this have they just suddenly woken up to a new nightmare.

Well.

It's certainly more complex and there are many many more outlets and it is more difficult to monitor left alone to decide I mean we know that we from Radio days off comes with you was we'll wait until someone complaint.com thought therefore it was not a particularly significant one.

I'm surprised by The Ruling I think they may be should go back in this again.

I personally do not agree with the news is the home of Tory MPs who are often presenters and Rishi Sunak

GB news on Monday in a by-election week the sort of thing which upcoming natural commissioned in normally used to like my partner and braced.

They are the establishment on me.

I mean this is the whole thing when I think you need a region a set themselves up being like really anti-establishment we get to say what really is happening then you've got Boris Johnson joining you still thinking.

How can you sort of messaging and I think it's really fascinating as we enter the election you because of course Mr rules answers, when will there be a get something more focus on Ofcom guidelines again about having potentially in a lot of your own GB news presenters.

Not been able to be on your own past 4 weeks 4-months potentially whilst the channel is still trying to position itself as an election now.

I think weather channel does have strengths is perhaps attracting audiences that don't really watch BBC don't really watch Sky particularly in the North but you're wondering about weather.

I mean in Farsi what will happen if you know a seem to be taking the side more towards tour reviews during an election period and how will it be able to navigate that or is it going to see where the rules are and see what the line isn't trying to get those closer nightcore somewhere that later.

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ArcaMax cotton colour back for some more news in brief at last week and Richard Osman on some of the podcast his reasons for the crisis at Channel 4 and Alex man I responded in the Guardian Scott what he say so I mean it's fair to say what Richard Richard said that the Channel 4 does many things and has a many great things but it hasn't really had anything that's been a big hit for a while and it's relying on old successes as TaskMaster which was essentially bought from day from Bake Off which was in a 14 cats because that was the old management so there's been a lack of new hits coming if he does mention the piano, but there's be nothing since there is a law of diminishing returns if you're not having a new hit and people not going to stick around for the other shows and then those won't be here then that will mean that people will take you out for the other so it's

Is the Channel 4 Racing real real trouble now Alex Connor said well no actually, we are having big hits at the end of being a big big boy has been a big hit there's also been to the Russell Brand investigation by dispatches last year, but I mean personally speaking I mean I'm looking at the TV market as just a review and I'm thinking what shows am I getting really excited by on Channel 4 I mean if you look at the start of this year, I have all my phone.

Just a guide it off like all the TV shows I absolutely loved and I've had and Mr Bates go to the post office now on ITV I've had a criminal record and Apple TV Plus on there about the traitors on BBC on there so far no Channel 4 show has been at have done good program.

The miners strike documentary of saying big boys come back on series 2, but no blowout hit that everyone's been talking about and I think I am leaving towards what we're saying I'm getting worried.

I watch lightwood giving charger for a bit of a Kick in every week on on the at the moment time.

They've changed all of how they run.

There's a lot of things happening all around the country.

What good things but it just seems to be stuck in a rut well.

I think as well as what's got so much.

I do agree with there's also the issue of the advertising market.

We just turned down and ITV appearing with course and also got this challenge of transforming to become a digital broadcaster, and I was talking to someone this week about ITV and the problem there with ITV ex's ex is getting really good engagement is not yet making really good money and of course every supply or not enough audience to lower CPM so iTV want to have some more people across to ITV ex but every inch of the motocross.

They actually lose money on social media.

Moving people to ITV much smaller beast maximum revenue, but it's still got the cost of running a 24/7 TV operation and they're meant to be this commissioner broadcast that says more complex and they don't have their own production and obviously ITV ITV Studios and ITV Studios this contributing more and more to the total revenue on ITV channel 4 don't have that so they got this sort of double bind of they're not getting hits coming through which might be there is nothing new being made and it also got two climbing advertising revenue very very difficult I mean to take a bit of a Skype and says I'll be independent production Communities damaged.

I would say to her one thing you could do about that is actually spend more money domestically and less money on third-party acquisitions.

There's a lot of shows on Channel 4 which also on.

And they're paying a very very healthy licence fee to acquire.

You know shows like the Big Bang Theory modern family and so they don't need to be on Channel 4 10.

Spend that money on UK and the production and they can children look after got they've got some jobs.

So they haven't chosen to do you get the chance to go into production change it change to Rules now before they can make their own thing is scared of the production community cos they like the fact that 100% of the material.

How should they embark on that should buy something should they build something themselves? What should Direction outfit be I would be going shopping.

I'm in the way ITV building up its logic acquisition if they've been acquiring over a period of time and they built up you know series of reproduction is a whole bunch of Independence in Bolton a quiet.

I think I will force you do the same thing because some of the key suppliers and they can take the minority interest initially couldn't that's my favourite.

Commissioning structure, but no I've been building up my own independent production base and look outside the UK you know you working in the kids business.

You know that you cannot make money for my kids TV show just in the that's increasingly becoming the case to another jarez.

So they can sell channel4.com overseas that make a massive difference their bottom line stories of The Spectator Fraser Nelson has warned against selling his magazine to foreign national saying that red bird.

I am I the people that have similar quad Telegraph and The Spectator at the Celtic then we'll have a profound impact on UK media the government still deciding whether they should be allowed to sort of warning letter to the government of the established journalist trying to speak I mean is this is fascinating to see this or play out in public.

I think I mean I was a few weeks ago in WHSmith and I just saw the front page of the Daily Telegraph there was a front page tutorial.

Essentially itself on the front page and you know The Spectator with frozen Elsa talking to open about this.

I mean there's implications there for the reader because they will be thinking when they would be I think they've had a telegraph reader spectator readers of a loyal would be very loyal but if a course what has been said is that senior journalist with leave or with no longer have anything to do with it that would possibly speak them and then a course with make the Daily Telegraph less of a attractive out at 2 to begin with courgettes has said that with the Telegraph and they will be independent they have a panel advisor border so so forth but I mean it's just the fact of course it has been going on and on and on for weeks and it won't be the last time you talking about this one This podcast media has been controlled by Strange groups of people forever hasn't it? Why do you think that the senior Telegraph buds? I can a drawing a line and saying most of it worth Murdoch Media

Are the places to buy the game so we don't want that I don't know strange people to and will be worried when sky made channel 5 news.

I don't think we were don't you get anyone that was scared all you know the horses didn't say bolt.

So why we weren't on this occasion.

I think it's a long story.

I have no idea how this particular Media property should be treated like this.

It's business as usual as far as I'm concerned that newspapers with should have stayed away from it should have been critical of their funders.

Also other other proprietor.

Is it sort of Anna Murtagh overall the fat made the connection to Peter oborne reservation for the Telegraph he claimed to remain silent over HSBC criticism when they were a big Advertiser play into it's 5-minutes suits you there is always going to be a finger sensor a bit of a conflict of interest of the matter who owns you in regards to other media properties that you're not going to have criticism.

The media properties think that's all goes about saying I think it's another different thing off if you were tied to a company that has many different interesting data from companies because of course it back company is embroiled in a very big issue.

When is somehow not been reported on by your own papers then that raises questions about our democracy and about whether the write stories in the white people are being challenged.

I think it's the it's is ongoing is not one that I think it's entirely new I think if you look at Private Eye the amount of times.

It's pointed out that a certain companies not been written about by certain newspaper because the same person who owns it might have some business interests in that it's been a long-standing issue 52 ownership and the Guardian and male have both published financial updates this week great result for the Guardian no not good at all.

Revenue down.

You know debt bad.

I mean no not really really bright spot was the distal revenues up by 3 million.

Small percentage of the least it's up the same issue as we mentioned just now with them ITV and Channel 4 in their transformation to the garden is proving to be challenging and time-consuming the male has fared a little better despite the ad downturn.

Why do we think that is is mostly they say I think it's been offsets from events primarily in the United Arab Emirates doing very well.

I mean I think it's that positions of the Telegraph UK Southport in the last 3-years that a lot of media companies had sought Feltwell the future events and passing a lot of events in the course of pandemic happens in that was the thing that nobody can actually go and do and I think of course with the consequence of many of those working from home so I think I think you know that has had enough facts about the potential about media companies investing in events in themselves over here, but I mean seems to be doing better internationally ok, just enough time for the media quiz this week in tight.

Definitely Maybe a few new media projects about this week or have they tell me if the stories reported are definitely true or maybe true and dependence on official confirmation that a person with your name's if you know the answer so Scott you will say Scott and Paul play Definitely Maybe Netflix is to release this generalisation of the Prince Andrew Newsnight interview in April yes definitely or maybe what is definitely because we've seen it.

I mean we've seems that the Gillian Anderson trying to imitate looks great looks grey in there as well Rufus Sewell isn't it to like it is based on the have not read it from the one of the juices a single one of the lucky people that help set up the interview in the first place and it was a big I guess as a big question of is there going to be enough material to make this.

Wedding the interview itself is out at what else is there to tell us you can stand on its own and I will never likes or loves like adding say I was gonna be rubbish always try to wait until I see it.

You might like it.

I'm going to get previous Gavin and Stacey Christmas definitely I will I hear it's definitely like many people connect to James Corden you know well many people have said that is definitely happening, but maybe it's for the maybe column.

Which James was on RTE this week sort of saying where do these people come from so pushy pushy denying it so for minor standing is deadlines.

I I know in advance sourcing.

You know mate.

I know the people who wrote the story when they say the best sources very good with the original so it is saying that Gavin and Stacey's coming back.

I think they really do think it's happening and they say that that there is it is going to be very likely think deadline was also with have to be very confident in the first place roofer said where we have something to eat now.

It's James and I will announce it if you was a Wotsit interview.

She doesn't categorically deny it you do need something for Christmas and Mrs Brown's Boys ain't happening is not working.

Thank God

This Christmas as well.

Spend a few years and have been doing it for Netflix and recent years so I mean I get me wrong like Gavin and Stacey different audiences.

Yes, and he had 17 cm radius launch the new station.

I'm being released on great.

We talked about it on the show 3 years old.

I reach of nearly three quarters of a million overthink.

It was really they've added a light stationery.

Had a rock station is the right thing to do it is I mean there is some evidence there reach has started to level off in terms of growth.

So they now need to give it another so the cake I think and the rock station is great.

You listen to radio a really good job in mixing together music by the right time.

I'd rather not hear that maybe 50s record his son with it more guitar so Nicky Horne has been a very much part of this I declare interest and I listen to your mother would like it on Capital radio wind-up radio.

He knows his music and he's been very important wishes.

I have listened to clean a very well-crafted mix of music mean and he's bringing back your mother on Saturday afternoon and bring a show in there and guy from Radio so I think it's going to be good and how much it was going to add.

I suspect that more hours than reach.

I think I've definitely had a bit of a rich but so far and I'm impressed and a good on doing a good job.

Generally no from the Ground Up put the money where your mouth is Grown audience of here.

It's doing pretty well.

Financially as well.

They were somewhat shocked this week last week.

When the BBC lamps that they were going launch their own similar spin-off station to Radio 2 I won't say the word that feels right beside me in a DM when he heard about it.

He was pretty in it.

He's like to be annoyed he is right to be annoyed the BBC of abandoned that audience and move Radio 2 younger.

I think it won't be the same as boom.

I mean it will have to be distinctive in terms of content that will include a lot of archive material lot of sessions lot of interviews it won't be DJ's playing records, but nevertheless.

It's time to sing an audience that otherwise they appear to know so interesting so I don't think it's going to kill boom of it probably will hamper its growth and it does feel a bit like public money being used to distort the market.

Do I think is the public interest test as I understand it could stop and launcher on DAB but could not stop watching it on BBC sounds, so I suspect these services will launch.

You're not the public interest test passes so more competition on the way and I understand that two words saying that feels like you'd rather and happy about yes, I asked about the announcement be made about the public interest test is Paul said it looks like it's going to happen.

It's just what happens on DAB now.

Will they get that far? I think they will be used some people think it's like the classic case of the BBC been in a situation.

Where is damned if it goes down if it doesn't because there has been this idea if we are not catering for audiences.

Who are not happy with the directions to taken so the BBC makes it take to Kate of those awning size for affecting the commercial market that still sleeping that time so I guess I was going to be the two and throw about it when I would say that what I find interesting about Radio 1 dance and you won't relax which are the existing stations that there's not new content is essentially just spinning the suffix on late at night on Sundays throughout the rest of the week so

With that long and found out that was in there last week about how much new content there will be but you'll sort of wonder about how much it is going to be Pakistan that matters but with you as listens of the happy 442 formation including budgets and £3000000 across the four stations in BBC terms of money and also the rate of the new one spin-off that so not danced the other one is £120,000 a year for which which is not it's not big you read it all feel like someone pointed out this week.

Did it look like the Radio 1 spin-off was going to be relaxed and at last minute change to something else right.

So I think there's more to come out of all of this.

Yeah.

I agree.

I think that pay TVs been doing what you describe four years and it does generally produce incremental increases in in rich and and share.

I think was interesting about this is the radio generally.

Unique reach the BBC show the BBC's argument, they need the services to reach people is actually erroneous, what it will do is increase the hours consumed the BBC by those audiences because I already BBC Television BBC online services, so they don't need it to universality which underpins the licence fee so for that reason.

I think the argument is a bit weak.

However.

They are basically doing what commercial Radio 6 has been doing their creative all these different segments and they're going to get incremental value for incremental spend I suspect it's going to go through while we will keep an eye on it on the show you where are you have to go and find one I really feel guilty that now.

I feel bad now in the Netflix spin-off of the m Parker

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They're putting the glue between all the wonderful people and you'll be there to Martin if not.

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