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Please replay radio battleships that come in this edition in the news this week the European Union has find Apple to Billy euro for banning music streamers like Spotify for me forming iOS users about cheaper music services available outside the app Spotify said the find centre powerful message whilst apple will appear as newspaper group reach released its results for last year on Tuesday just had the biggest for laughter funerals from Facebook and Google searches for the publishers reduced fund for future claims as a result of clown hacking trials after Prince Harry's trial judgement and doctors the long-running drama has had its final date of filming.

That's last Friday a screenwriter said that the series could give an opportunity experience to write us like yourself as well as actors and crew and the decision to close the show was disastrous of course we at the Minute podcast been going in some form since 2000.

When doctors were still finding its feet creator of popbitch in 2005 the people on Dr you really and Jake investigations into a deadline what you doing 2000 hours in the second year of university not having a merged yet, when you're nearly 20-years old and magnificent and lots of different things like that to happen next certainly not me.

So what are you up to this week? I've been kept busy by a story that be working for a little while.

It's about agents in the TV and film World misleading their clients and sending them fake audition invites.

It's quite industry story, but it means a lot to the

8% and when I say the 98% I mean actors who make up the majority of the profession but not stars Hollywood stars and they are being misled by their ages and people feel very strongly about it and people are very upset and pulling it out if you had lots of follow-ups from other people about similar thing.

Yes, I think I never to be when you touch on a nerve like this people tend to reflect on their own auditions.

Go and do some digging themselves and sometimes get in touch with me and say I've had I've had some fake tapes as well at the fake type story and Chris Watts been keeping your inbox on fire mostly.

Thanks to Geri Halliwell and the F1 Red Bull Christian Horner story so it's constantly evolving last week shortly after.

Recorded a cache of anonymous texts emailed out to journalists and others seem to get evidence cases report against Christian on phone appropriate workplace contact he was cleared from an investigation last week within 24-hours, then there's evidence made its way into the boxes of journalists on buses and the stories kind of snowball from there must been interesting.

Is there anyone with any interest in the story has probably come across to Lincoln read the message and yet, do the jealous covering it difficult position because there is absolutely no guarantee that these messages what they say.

They could be a very sophisticated.

Hope there's just no telling and

What's interesting about that are from the medial perspective is depending on whose delete those text really changes the charity got involved but then the rights to their article 10 freedom of expression probably without way Christian Horner's article 8 right to privacy.

It was anybody else than his right to privacy probably Trump's the rights to freedom and so once again.

We're in this story, but there's all that kind of solution side to it too and some of the messages.

Your Jackson story which is brilliant to me because I get to Reading devour and not have to write about of course.

It's all made more pronounced by the Netflix show that that's created the soap opera round at 1 and then this is like the perfect story broadcasting.

I move slowly online.

It was announced this week a few weeks ago that he was sort of off to YouTube so I'm trying to get out before I get this big news dropped.

What does it mean? How much would a head and whether he was allowed to save a bit of face I think since his announcement a couple of weeks ago that you are writing has been on the wall for talk.tv.

It was just a matter of when not if I think it shows that at this is a rare Murdoch misfire.

The feeling at News UK that they should have stopped their guns and gone with the original plan which was to launch online and for it to be a streaming service they reacted to GB news and have lost the battle of the sort of right-wing stations to be in a mental for that but yeah, I think even though the news as expected.

I think it's a difficult all staff meeting.

I think I've been told that there was a but inside is not surprised I mean yeah that the resource has been released out of the station for a little while and the idea of it becoming usually only station is a bit of a fig leaf a slow wind a Christmas look at the statement that the total cost to buy into which is has already worked for a variety of reasons.

I see what they've been left with his quite interesting for structure the ability to actually Accelerate what they can do at the Sun or the times are there of the radio station away from your your regular business and people can blow hot and cold with that don't know you know.

There's a lot of this makes a lot sense.

You know very very rational sort of business decision here when I was thinking about it when we started less than 2-years ago and they're talking as if the change in viewer habits list habits has suddenly cramped up on the last 18 months but people have been you know Jade testing through their phones for the best part of a decade now and it then suddenly on secondary thought this is very face-saving really they've basically yes as you say mate.

They should have really launched online the idea of doing this.

Linear having a linear this they didn't you're brave enough was the phrase not to not to launch without a linear TV and yeah, it's obviously been an expensive mistake of those to dissolve hang on to that Heritage presentation at the Studio space and and if they can repurpose that and service other brands like the sun and increase the video contact times radio then it won't have been a a disaster.

Obviously what they were fighting against with GB news and at some point talked about mergers or takeovers, but minutes of there an announcement news about GB news to be sort of financial basket case if you look at it in the traditional sense, they talked about it being able to break.

Give me a three houses that unlikely I don't think it.

I think it's a very expensive hobby football Marshall and yeah.

He is clearly of a mine to gain some influence in the media agenda.

Yeah, there's lots of speculation about him wanting to buy the Telegraph and The Spectator but in GB news.

He has managed to cultivate a brand that although incredibly chaotic in its launch is now a genuine genuine Force within within the the news space people.

I think over month online more than 3 million each month is an agitator in the space as well.

You know that's what I like about you guys because you know where the people watch it or don't it makes headlines in and of itself certainly you know the

the calibre of politician then lowering away the comments to to host on that show completely undermines their positioning is the underdog channel, but you know what I mean.

Yes, I mean quite literally but

Yeah, the the power that presents whether you getting eyeballs on or not.

There is a great deal of effort and follow putting in what is 41 million ^ company put in last year.

You know there's a case to be made for that being a fairly decent investment.

I mean probably not at the minute because the elections going but also there going to be a great condition post-election the deposit we believe in the Conservatives don't do so well the sort of GB news flavour of the Conservative Party becomes incredibly strong and they become the leader in that sort of a support Marshall equivalent of the Marvel Cinematic Universe idea, cos you've got you've got even use you got on her twitch sometimes you forget that and Telegraph is a little bit where it seems to be with red, but it might might have to do something with it.

I mean that's what is after to be a source of right-wing keymaker.

Yes, I mean that.

I think probably party the I don't know he is a bit of a mysterious figure.

We don't know much about him and you I saw the newsagents couple of weeks managed to get hold or get access to his Twitter account in which he was liking and retweeting some fairly extreme views.

It's clear that there is a big again and financial one and and there has to be because GB news revenues were what about 6 million which is no poultry really and I don't see how much that can increase significantly as watching it on budget day and yo prime time for a channel like GB news the advertising was was there but they're not they're still bluechip advertisers and I don't see that changing significantly in in the in the coming years so yeah, she said don't normally don't hear it said out loud about.

About the happened to pay much as much attention to be used as they would say traditional broadcaster.

Why is that so yeah? I when I first read the remarks.

They just like you but actually it is backed up by the code and content has to be just about to contacts on if you've got more viewers that means more responsibility and that means a greater scrutiny potentially be applied to the lights to the BBC or iTV as opposed to supposed to be used in this example which has a much more audience feels like we've got some of these Old partial news channels sorted by the 90s news on the top but really is a current affairs, so they are regulated in a different way this Gene is a going back in bottling time seen is it and it seems that it's going fractal as well, so this week as Dan Wootton announced that he was going to be starting his own.

The music Media Concern at this is after he officially left you been used this week so much more that absolutely Red Hot World play coming your way soon on Dan outspoken.

I believe is the one he's gone for an hour but I saw today as well.

I think laurence.fox Robinson and launching their own thing about the Marvel Guy Ritchie would have done it University it was two of them sort of smoking blowing lots of lens flare and stuff for two of them Calvin Robinson given the sign of the cross outspoken fox and farther or father and fox.

It's cold and they're going to do so it seems like all the people that have left you been used for one reason or another I'll look into to set up their own kind of challenges to that orthodoxy so much better to make some money and sort of individuals doing something then you are.

Sing a large organisation and you see in America where there's a lot support for this kind of content the media.

I always feel that the Assumption from that sort of group of people the right wing is that more people who are interested in it than they actually are yeah.

I mean I guess I'll get her when is their own finances on the line.

I'm sure yeah.

I think well.

I think one had a slight house to himself when he tried to crowdfund is legal responsibility get quite the response she was hoping for having that have cleared him.

It's 1 elements of a much wider story the police have decided or two police officers is there is no evidence of criminal wrongdoing that doesn't Olivier any of the issues that were there to do with harassment bullying and interpersonal relationships in the workplace lot of alleged behaviour.

Sorted still standing may not face Court is a result there any sentence but that doesn't accelerating completely and is an interesting legal tactic been to produce it used in another places.

Where are you sending letters out? So they down one has the Guardian the Guardian have withdrawn article offered to pay legal costs as a result this is to do with naming him a headache as part of an active police investigation which I think certain commentators and institutions may be did get a little carried away and thinking what they could publish about this in the in the heat of the moment whenever cinema mental behind the story and the Guardian have said yes, they were trying to do that either using a very recent legal case number 1 2002 was to say that you know people entitled to a degree of privacy regards.

Going stations that you've never been in the head of the decision that they took that has been some sort of symmetry used I would argue to sort of give him total dedication to one direction from everything he's been accused of so using that to say you see this was all just a big.

What do you like? This was all nonsense was politically motivated near well.

It's true that The Guardian feel that live in in naming him a head of time.

You know that's all that proves really nothing more a global media company again.

Have a new CEO next year and it's time and pictures coming the boss of STV what do you know about well Simon has been at STV for about 6 years as TV is pretty healthy broadcaster.

He's still it through the pandemic.

I think the thing that he has done it which is really impressive is he is Grown STV Studios which is the production on into a genuinely respectable Force in the production industry makes shows for Apple including criminal record which is used to trade-off shows like Antiques Road Trip not that there's anything wrong with Antiques Road Leigh-on-Sea song again.

We thought we might go to itv.

He's gone to Global he's he's very imposing figure and when I say that I mean.

He's literally really tall is a smart guy and I think global is a great move for him.

I think the question with Global is how much autonomy does he have maybe this is a better question for you.

Surely ashlea pools the string right I mean it might turn the tap to stablish it only Simon predecessor very strong personality to and working with Ashley they had a very stressful relationship as I understand it does not lots of discussion for other people about what that organisations should do is pretty much driven from the top and I guess so I will have to work out with him.

He's going to be a collaborator with Ashley on vinyl matt or weather is more about instigating the bosses designs which if you don't you get to decide then you yes, I don't know I don't know Simon is clearly.

He's he's part of the high-profile media executives in the UK now my instinct is that he won't have gone there to just be a yes man to Ashley

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Chris and shaker still here with me then substacks.

I mean pictures of the original email newsletter email media one of the longest standing at least 25 very similar to this is where where people say that news that is it in again and then they disappear already paid it's the video and everybody stop giving me the answers news that is a back in then everybody tries to start again and then it's about the newsletter that has survived this long.

I think what's interesting about the newsletter and what you thought about it.

Is that it?

Still a very personal connection so even if it is written in sent out two tens of thousands and thousands of subscribers.

You still feel like you're you're receiving it yourself.

It's come to you personally.

I think that's the people develop quite a strong relationship with that the costs to get started a very minimal as if you need an email address really I mean there are systems if you want to make it is a few going on so you can professor like that, but really do the the barrier to entry is fairly small so that means that people journalists prices even on generous writers who want to start building something start writing something can and they can find an audience and that audience you just circumvent the the usual kind of gatekeeper.

Obviously quite a lot of people the more substack world looking at that ability to charge people and that can be a mixture of 3-in thing on the outside.

It's been always very much on the friend.

And you must have thought about do we add subscription features over the years.

We have premium anyone's interested.

You know when they will get next to you later.

If you are the bonuses and stuff like that.

Yeah, it's a really it's so easy for people really want to support your work with several other people want to do that sort of thing and would be glad if the opportunity to do it if that functionality that I think that has become more prevalent in recent years and that means of people say on subs I call you later.

Just gone behind number of the services that opened the allow that allow people to monetize it and I don't think audience begrudge paying it because it's not as supportive news summary of the news websites so flooded with advertising it's very difficult to read what you want to read forever.

Change my DPI settings clicking and things to do to get rid of cookies.

You don't really get any of that with newsletters and that's good as well then for advertisers because you know people install adblock is on the web browsers, which means that they don't see a lot of the stuff that is the lifeblood of a lot of these publications that you know it's their main source of income and it goes tonight, but you can't do that with a with a director in box newsletter.

So it does soul a lot of the problems that Jasmine spacing is just a scale of it really and the factored it does compartmentalize ever into lots of small niche products on one hand you get to compare your own newspaper in that sense so the old man that you would buy the newspaper you send a text to do you like you've been the rest you read entertainment in sports you through anything hard in the Benz and you can do that with newsletters, but they can come from all over the place.

Is that people need to then find a way to make that work for them financially because it's something that sort of supports the smaller business in scope imagine that hundreds of your pocket and no one should we stay or should we build out the better web property or should we trade on that name to grow it? Yeah, we have done when I was going to be the big favour of journalism.

We had a digital piano Pad tablet offering to write longer things into some of the stuff is the chance of snowing try that a bit people don't really use the app store to get their news in in the way that you know people predicted they did.

Ships with publications like yours, I was talking to someone had set up a patreon for the project and they're quite etc.

All the levels would be like merch for 1 levels and then launched it like the web for that level and no one wanted to bother sending me address in to get the much is actually what they were what they were doing as supporting The Creator rather than worry my game pencil if anyone decides to go into that kind of patria remember doing this for the Kickstarter once as well.

Spend so much time that was absolutely the biggest time train of the whole project was bring out the rewards and what to make and not to make too many of them so that your stuff with box after box of t-shirts that you can't do anything like that and you know it probably took away from that was probably better.

Spent on figure out what the problem was actually writing that so that's a Trapper fall into and I think you know what we don't need a huge amount they do if you have.

Ship with your readers then they like to be able to support the like to feel the Dare keeping you independent or you know making sure that they have a mistake in and what they reading.

It's something that you know shouldn't be taken for granted that is incredibly interesting part of the modern Media landscape because I on one hand you've got signal what time she was sort of the everything from cooking to reviews to use and do a very good job that I don't the other and you've got people like yourself to sort of picking 1 smaller area to sort of super some sort of trapped in the middle of a the journals or publishers that is fine.

Do you think about something like reach and Rita Ora trouble recently? I try to be a bit of something for everyone in the oven I guess we'll find out fairly soon, because they are they are struggling.

Yeah.

It's you know what you meant in the New York Times and a lot of people describe it as a as a puzzle book that has a huge news.

A lot of people play wordle probably do without realising it's part of this Virgin Media you know their cooking stuff popular people will just go for that were they trying to build that without having the new X behind it will be very hard to organically create something like that impossible people have done it, but much more indeed.usa.

Don't want to spread your own product to otherwise you at the end up with people yeah therefore the puzzles which one you used to sell papers as a big bundle.

That's fine.

You've got everybody and you couldn't find the entire paper if you break down up too much and offer you know puzzle subscriptions and that ends up being your friend butter not as expensive as well it cost to send people out and have euros or around getting your news.

You know maybe we'll just see puzzle Bureaus ok.

Thanks news in brief privileged.

Inaugural rosemary Hollis memorial lecture this week in Italy highlighted limited delivered experiences are of his fellow journalists and how that's lead to a limited understanding of the problems people face I really enjoyed that speech is very interesting 43 quotable and I think there's a lot to me, but there's a problem the journalism has just as an industry.

Generally is a concept I suppose that you've got people trying to report this the about what they see but always people's experience what people think he is worthy of being story all influences it and it but it's always positioned as a completely dispassionate clinical.

Look at the world as a did you know that's a great idea that everyone should work towards ideally you you need to get that problem by getting lots of German

Different experiences so that everybody can have the sort of say if you don't have huge blind spots on your staff are very noble goals but Jenner's Middlesbrough crisis at the moment.

No money and fury resources being spread over further and further outputs which just creates a perfect storm way, you don't end up with this and where where journalist sort of finding its way and being rewarded for people doing specialists in certain areas are selling one of them and again.

I should carry out all of this by saying this is my experience and a reading of journalism and the people that I read the people that I see and it may well not be the case across the board, but it feels like people have been rewarded for being specialist in certain areas which is greater than you do get authoritative content from them, but it's not the be-all and end-all of everything going on in the world.

So just yet spirals out very quickly as soon as you start to think about it.

I think yeah very very interesting points.

Made me reflect on was the Demise of the Lights of BuzzFeed huffington, Post vise.

Yo these are outlets for young journalist to make their Mark to learn their trade and they are essentially disappearing from the UK landscape and that is really really sad and I think it goes to Gary's point in Carlow wrote about this brilliant in the Guardian couple of weeks ago.

She used to work and she was saying I'm about to give a lecture 22 young journalism students and I don't even know if I can recommend the end.

I don't know whether I can do that in good faith, because the industry might let them down and you're right.

I think there's this is a perfect storm of circumstances.

It makes me really really bad about the future of our industry and I really hope that you're jealous can find other avenues to getting their work noticed and main.

Establish newspapers or other media outlets can tap into Talent in in different ways to think about this and tackle this another's redundancies come in that sort of goes out the window cause anything you've put in place the people you've helped put in place to suddenly disappear because someone else is looking at pretty devastated even bigger effect on trying to create a diverse workforce again.

It's weather sort of like the Legacy institutions are the people to change it whether they can try to diversify your staff trying to create programs that benefit new grassroots journalists from different walks of life are very good, but perhaps the system can't be changed perhaps anyway.

It was done from the top down that way won't create lasting change.

The can whether you know periods of economic turmoil or you know International Events that needs sort of serious sombre reporting you know it's such a hard thing to do that god made my mind now to think about.

What are the alternatives might be there's been lots of very interesting things grow up from the ground people.

You know work is independent journalists and creating useful resident work.

But then sometimes without the brand recognition of somewhere big.

I'm trying not to name names, but you know just enough people does it is it is it is it a lot of effort for very little dial movement Legacy institutions aren't going to try and find the places that will take them over so it's not in there interest to do that.

That's perfectly read.

I'm not suggesting.

They need to sort of take their own grave here to create Their Own Future as well in some of the dangerous motivated if you don't start to pick some of those problems you wait resonate with your audiences and you know the Murdoch Empire tried to buy a device and do that and sort of create a kind of next generation of young find that be part of that story and it's not help the Works and I'll give you made up this week.

It's entitled to Radio 4 battleships.

It's freezing out since last week has changed its schedule, so I now invited to play battleships sort of OK here.

We go the name a day in the time and you tell me what is that slot on the new schedule taking affect the spring buzzing with your names of know the answer so Jake you say Jake and Chris you will say Chris let's play Radio 4 battleship movie if you're listening.

This is available to licence for Wednesday at 4 p.m.

I'm not going to be the media media program.

Yes all them ready for 2 a.m.

On Sunday

Do you want to get the point this whole new audience on BBC sounds and young people are going to know the sounds of midnight, so there's obviously people waiting around with the Archers number 38 p.m.

On Tuesdays at 20 on Tuesdays I honestly don't know.

Well, it's still file on 4 programme come back with some ideas Netflix every Thursday so you can sign up and I'm at Jake underscore cancelling.

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