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Come on in so welcome to the media club kickoff by so celebrating summer industry and induction them into the club as we now got a new name.

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I wanted to mention time in Oldbury he was the former boss of the Royal television Society but is probably better known as a tireless and Fearless campaigner for diversity in television and beyond he died last week very sadly was a bit of a shock.

I think to the whole industry the tributes paid to him on social media and elsewhere are really moving out for it.

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I mean he did amazing work and he was a real character as well very distinctive with his glasses booming boys and he campaigned where the real twinkle in his eye and I think that's what makes him incredibly memorable and impact for there is a book of condolences at the film and television charity office all are welcome to go and

Pay tribute to him about his new book in background.

He was advice motherboard and when that sort of fell off the media Cliff as these things do has set up a 404 media with some ex colleagues and Sting take journalism and also he's got a great book out called Dark while it's all about the FBI setting up a phone company and app company which then sold services to criminals to capture all of the text messages so really into the rest of journalism, if you haven't checked out for a for Media you really should think it's very jealous good read is good read happening this week as a long and tortured wait is over we now know who's bought The Spectator magazine looks like there's a lot on the show ever last year.

Still holds a lot of sway in the the right of the political movements the Conservatives and Jake it's been bought by the owner of GB news on the end of the GB news Marshall 400 million quid that's not a bad grab for red bird who had previously held it for a short amount of time.

Yeah, I'm pretty incredible valuation really when we spend a lot of time on This podcast bemoaning the decay of traditional Media to secure evaluation which is like.

I think it's like 30 times 20-22 earnings the Barclay brothers bought it for 20 million in 2005.

So it's a real credit to spectators journalism and power and Influence within the UK media and support Marshall is becoming an increasingly interesting story isn't he is?

ITV News New Zealand unheard which is sort of a sort of an online version of The Spectator at Lords and a bit more well, it is quite free-thinking and how much is it in between GB news and say it plays in the same sample and now of course he is he is very firmly in the running to buy the Telegraph as well.

I'm outside by the end of this year.

He could be probably one of if not the most influential Media Baron in the conservative Media space in the UK and it's clear that with The Spectator and with the Telegraph if he does eventually go on to succeed in acquiring that they plan to expand aggressive into the us as well.

They've sorted popped up from Nowhere really and he was sort of a list them for a long time.

Obviously very brave right now my taste, but it's been pretty.

For that audience, do you think it's surprising someone still wants to run a sort of right-wing Media operation or is it just good business now.

I don't think it's it's brilliant.

Cos you got an audience and you've got space and a platform to be able to put out.

You know your point of view your news your stories and we know that traditionally you know we often especially in the UK have been you know generally the big the big Media Corporation what corporations that you know the newspapers and the News outlet a very traditionally been accused of being left wing whether or not they say that they are themselves or in fact so so there's a huge get there.

So why wouldn't you and if you have a particular view and you've got money to spend and you see the sheer size of the industry in what it brings the economy? I mean it's a no-brainer ab Andrew Neil

Former chair of The Spectator this week though it was very Andrew Neil in its of valedictory tone.

Yeah, I mean he left with this quite long email within 80 raised concerns about the editorial Independence Of The Spectator going forward and whether support Marshall will be interfering and bring his own views to the table dressing of the hands of nature and of himself some sort of governance structure to try and reassure people like engineer from what we Fraser Nelson is going to stay on as editor and very well established and well-respected editor and I'm sure if he is the colour of individual who can resist that kind of editorial infringement.

What's a Kern obviously everyone is saying that won't be the case.

I'm not sure there's been need to interfere that much for The Spectator he's got a selection of publications outlets now.

He can give a certain direction to any talks of the Tory leadership for of the party going forward.

He does he I'm not sure you need to know about with what why is bought The Spectator presumably because it aligns with some of his objectives.

So you would think that it's sorted positioned in the right direction for him and you I think it's probably important context to say that there is no love lost between Andrew Neil and support engineer was of course the colour space of GB news left within weeks in incredibly acrimonious circumstances and they have a spot since I mean.

The days of famous Media story that has stopped support Marshall attending The Spectator summer party which has been stood up by Tim Montgomerie is obvious influential voices conservative mediaspace entertaining Petty Media inviting going on their individual likes Road Media titles.

Yeah, I think you know why I don't I don't know let's see but I I can't see that the objects and would truly be editorial independence when it comes to you know that side of things it's really clear in terms of a a media corporation has many many different outlets and that's across all.

What was the question use cross papers online TV radio etc and so if you don't have those already you can either try and start something for you.

Go and find something that we are successful and buy it if it makes your value as your company which band Paul Marshall son is part of Mumford and Son that is on his sister is Penny Marshall who is on ITV News journalist.

I did not know that until this week actually I thought this week, but there was the biggest expansion of radio in decades happen anymore.

This is according to Global the biggest commercial radio group DAB yesterday.

Can you name them all to you name any of them, but they say right got two new Classic FM

first time that they've got the sister station the movies one and a calm one and then we've got the three radio x which are

90s noughties and chill we've got heart to other yes is a heart love heart love heart musicals had to help me the office before this not bad not bad not bad listen fighting me so some of those 12.

I mean that is this is not a new phenomenon.

You know brand extensions and sister stations.

I think it's you know it's really popular thing.

It's a really good idea.

Why wouldn't you and until it's the only way that you can expand existing brands in the way once you've got a 24/7 radio station what else do you do with that when you already on the platform? So it's really really good, but who else did 12 at the same time and some of those and on stop music services at SummerSlam you know they announce the presenter my nuts and really good.

This is real invest.

Into these new stations in the grounds of the whole squid exciting today in London on global player as well.

Would you have in your home? Do you listen to me the spin-off from another? I think we definitely I'm I'm on a shame if I think it's brilliantly smart station enter to have a movies spin-off.

I think is definitely something we would listen to her home.

Yeah this just seems incredibly smart be interested to hear what you think of the economics of this is it is actually very cheap existing teams that would be able to a lot of it distribution costs so can be so probably that's about a million quid a million maybe million half a distribution for all the yep.

Yep, so one of the exciting things that they're putting that love love and Batman 2 beyond as well.

Not just on global player you make a real commitment to the stations would be great.

But is it a bit of a shame but they're not creating new format for new ideas and global since their inception have acquired some station to write the beginning and radio x evolving XFM never really learnt something new is it a shame that there's not a new radio station is a shame because I think he know if you look at the collection for better words that the global has will also the collection across the UK radio stations altogether there are those spaces where were you know there's brilliantly brands new station's come up like boom radio couple of years ago.

I think what globala do indeed power doing with Greatest Hits 60 and BBC also looking to do something.

I think that they're.

There is something about going into those niches which is what the brand extensions are and kind of saying will actually what we don't need something there isn't that got to have something new what we want to do is give more value to existing audiences who loves our brand.

I love heart.

I want more of heart.

I want that bit of hot all day long and that sort of what you're feeding and you're saying well, if there's things that you want.

Let's let's stay within the family so I think if you're going to launch them a new station to say exciting but you've got to have a real purpose behind and the purpose of that is very different to to building existing brands so commercial van hours play so both power and fighting for advertising overtime listen to spending my computer more adverts on sort of damage in the middle of the BBC BBC channel launched two new services this week, they announced.

Radio 1 anthems name anthems Radio 3 on wind capsule anthems of sort of got their slightly first I'm gonna be stuck in the middle and he doesn't really want it to do anything what is trying to launch spend all stations itself isn't in the commercial sector is pushing back very heavily talk about whether it may disappear.

What the BBC may decide to withdraw those plans tom said about the Radio 2 extra service basically said if you launch this this would crash boom and we don't think that would happen.

Please.

Can I come back with some further swords? That's quite a strong position in whenever you have for that you got to basically say give me know Ofcom you've already sorted decided.

X we disagree at the BBC and we're still pushing on can be quite brave if they if they choose to do it.

Is the one that the most interested in that is the only one of the three that have come and push back on as well and you know the pushback.

Was you need to do the public interest report rather than no you don't come back.

So yeah, I'll be interesting to see what they decide.

We'll see what happens and I've got involved in that discussion obviously at the speaking of the media regulator publish report this week, but suggest that for the first time that consumers get more of the news from digital media than traditional broadcast like BBC iTV and Sky TV over to print Media in the 60s.

So it's the end of an era, but maybe not the end of the world as some a reporting guideline, where do you get your your news online mostly? I'm so surprised you're only just hit this this tipping point and it is only a percentage point so it's not like there's been a great big chasm.

TV and online engagement but I'm very much glass half full on TV I still think there's a really important part to play in Arts and Media diets and I'm diets and I think it's important to say that even though people maybe abandoning television.

They are not abandoning a traditional television brands BBC or iTV or Sky News in all three of those services sort increase traffic to their websites actually I should be clearer the Ofcom study is not monitoring engagement in terms of viewing it's a survey so it respondents to the survey said that the more of them were engaging with the online titles of broadcasters and yeah, I think if you are traditional Media outlets and your postings of 70% of Engagement which the BBC does then.

Find Play Store be looking about anything that they kill for that level of Reach so yeah, I'm I'm still bullish on a traditional telly when I have a look at the list if you get your news from Facebook or Twitter or tiktok quite a lot of guys made by mainstream traditional broadcast.

Yeah, I think big difference between platform and provide so that's one thing and some of that traffic will have been generated by the providers themselves saying we want to have more presents on these platforms in the report.

It does you know it breaks down by age group so I mean the same.

I'm really surprised but this time it's over taken so I would have thought that have a go and interestingly the gap between them you know the television only went down a small amount at sit still print going down massively.

Just noticed that radio is pretty much are on a par with Robert always was Richard interesting something.

I thought as well as it's what news today different things to different people and I would say that's that's related to age group as well.

So are you getting news or are you are you listening or Reading or watching more about current affairs and politics and things because my mind and shows my aid those a slightly different things and one follows into the other but I think it's certainly in the younger generation and their lines are blurred between those now and and it's more about discussion and looking into it and what happened rather than what you might call breaking news about platforms and ages different groups are changing their consumption so we look at some without the radio data connectors BBC this new BBC station so

Same half day listening and it is a station from over 65s is online and that's a group that you wouldn't necessarily assume would listen on the internet baby find the right bit of Media on a platform that you can access when somebody that can become a regular part of your day.

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He said spending on Nations and regions.

Isn't just about low budget shows and I find that hosted the future of Media tech conference on Thursday at the mini club with their to see DMG Media ridgeback Apollo at rail against open AI and predict that will be forwarded to the Year 4 News publishers.

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This week that's right red birds, which obviously we talked about earlier in terms of the Telegraph and The Spectator those deals have been very high profile and snagged a lot of what has gone a bit more notice is the fact that red bird has also acquired all3media that deal closed earlier this year and there's a bit more information about the cash that it is a ploughing into all3media.

Just over 100 million so all3media has a bit of a war chest for those who don't know it's really important and influential production group in the UK make shows including the traces and call the midwife and fleabag and I could they have been largely out of the sort of acquisitions mergers and acquisitions space the last 5 years and have lost the ground for sale.

Yes, it is partly because of that.

The previous owners Warner Brothers Discovery and Liberty Global perhaps not as in best invested as much as the leaders of all three may have liked their own troubles.

They have and all 3 m not necessarily has not necessarily been top of their agenda, but I think that has changed now and the ambition at redbird is very much to grow all media into this or globe stradling a production Studios so I think you'll see quite a few deals going forward to things further all three 74% Yes, it's a very UK central Jane Turton the chief executive is Malia in the UK television industry her big ambition is to push more into America you're busy with the radio festival which is next week Wednesday the 18th of September at the

Positions which is Regent's Park Lane how's the planning been going very exciting announce the full programme yesterday, so you know on every audio Industries hottest way say we will be back at the Royal College of Physicians we take over the whole building next Wednesday and it's one of our big flagship events that really brings at highlights.

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That's next Wednesday right just off time for the quiz.

Let's see how much attention you've been paying to the media news this week 3 format for this first Amelia club show higher or lower that's what I'm going to play and the next in the sequence will be higher or lower than that right.

Let's play to the numbers to combine number and media talk Media podcast and media Club episodes 724.

That's your baseline, so I'm looking for.

Jake the amount of money the BBC's try to recruit from Hugh Edwards is a higher or lower than 724.

What is higher 2:00 you press that was your your archive team a decide to Hana bunny back then 11th hour before his sentencing on Monday as a Goodwill gesture and no to the judge, but I'll be surprised.

I'm not sure it rehabilitate his image particularly, and I don't see the BBC really mounting a legal bid to say you're trying to yes, it will be complicated and costly and probably hiding to nothing ok, so it's 2050.

Subscribers to the UK local news publishing newsquest around the higher or lower than 200000 kg to have a guess it might be number of digital subscribers for newsquest how about 80000 not bad 100000 not something that there is always been a big Focus for newsquest digital subscribers that relationship with your your your readers that definitely is a long-lasting relationship and play to actually have a relationship.

You know be honest.

Just talking at someone ok, so now the pounds Lost by the TV indeed sector in commissions morning to packed high level 100000 hiya is how do you know what is 400 million x 392 million?

Australia's just round after a nice big number I promise millions has been struggling and yeah, I actually think it could have been worse based on the conversations and the pain the freelancers Xperia set up my writing a lot of the drop has been to the traditional linear broadcasters and water Netflix and Amazon is down as well.

It's not quite as much I actually the come from what we would I guess it used to call digital broadcasters talking about UKTV and particularly sky actually which is kind of gonna notice.

Classically cut back their budgets obviously the public service broadcasters have reigned in spend as well, but actually the majority of companies digital broadcasters the street as much for everything has been very stable actually ok, so I've got 382 million question for the amount offered by Muse cork for the property site Rightmove higher or lower.

Have no idea unless Rightmove Isle of Wight half billion pounds I mean this is this is a news corp, Australia and America have got so similar property websites and so the key to get hold of a UK one.

Do you go onto Rightmove and look at other people's houses on Rightmove have to say I think I have to say I'm so I feel what I feel Outnumbered about the floor plans as you get to report back and all your neighbour's property prices.

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