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What's your favourite British band all these questions but relax we have a 17th century.
Poet to soothe your soul the news or rather the cuts to the news last month Deborah Turness the CEO of BBC News toast after 130 jobs would be going in news and current affairs.
It's part of a much bigger savings plan to cut 500 jobs across the BBC by March 2026 and there are more savings that need to be made so change is inevitable the cuts in news will have an effect on radio output from Spring next year if you're an early riser you will no longer be waking up to the news briefing at 5.
See on Radio 4 and overnight news on Radio 2 and 5 Live will be replaced by World Service bulletins.
Good morning.
This is news briefing with Alan Smith is the whole talks with president macron before attending armistice day commemorations in Paris PC music Fiona McDonald delegate to the cop29 climate gathering and Azerbaijan ever prove nucleation network is losing its new service which is being replaced by radio One's news and hard talk which is funded by TV news, but can be heard on Radio 4 as part of the overnight feed from the world service is being axed and you been letting us know that you're not happy about it too hard took from the BBC World Service with me Stephen sackur Solihull West Midlands
BBC management must be mad to get rid of hard pork the only in-depth news program on the radio and I was told I grew up with the show me questions in a respectful manner.
This is going to be a huge loss to journalism and the world service and I hope it is referred BBC Asian Network this is from London I was very trouble to read about the proposed cuts both to the hard talk along for winter Andy BBC Asia News Network dedicated bulletins your mother tongue right because in Britain today the Asian Communities already marginalised and underserved enough without telling them that they can't have their dedicated news service.
would you let me know to address some of your concerns over the cuts is John McAndrew director of programmes for BBC News John welcome to feedback my favourite with many of our listeners overnight on radio for a flagship long form interview programme the best brand on World Service I understand that you've got it really complicated train sets in front of you when you have to make these budget cuts but to remove such a high-profile piece has shot many people and upset many people including the programs presenter Stephen sackur he put it like this at the very time to my baby was saying that the BBC World Service is such an important of democratic soft power that the taxpayer should take over the funding of BBC World Service on the very same day the BBC announces that it is acting it's
Most important flagship current affairs interview program, how do you respond to that? I understand people feel very very strongly about it's been a very successful Brand and lots of big and he's making interviews across the world.
What is the we have to be very cold Mason of audiences are going and the financial climate in which we operate now all of our research both surveys and numbers.
Do you show us that people generally come to the news channels increasingly for live and breaking stories and are less inclined to come to news channels nowadays for what I would call them all bespoke long-form terrestrial style program and also I need to be clear.
We do long form interviews Ross BBC News output a lot of them.
I can go into a lot of detail but look at Laura kuenssberg on Sunday look at the Today programme look at David petraeus on p.m.
Look at all the
Podcast that we do that produce long from interviews and we can put put these into use in lots of different places that they can be on the iPlayer they can live on sound we have lots of outlets for them.
So what we're not doing pulling back from any kind of scrutiny of global affairs or or the day after long for me to be an engine is there on radio on audio? What have you put competes and compared with hard took the Today programme p.m.
BBC sounds where we can put any series of David Cameron recently for his political thinking podcast all the today podcast we have we have space for this stuff.
I don't mind.
I just don't buy the with moving away from you at all and what we are doing is and I need to clear this very tough choices in the financial climate in which we operate as well ok so making bespoke programming is expensive and we have to be cognisant of wear or audiences are going and what they're telling.
What they are showing yes, is that they need us to invest where we can in things like BBC in-depth write the home of analysis of our BBC specialist and you digital product with launch, which will increasingly become in audio and video as well as well as in text BBC verify.
I mean could that be any more important in the current climate somewhere to two separate fact from fiction and to drill into information and to provide to provide journalism that people can really really rely on introduce multiple podcast the team that produce that also make some other programs out of Westminster for is losing its 5:30 a.m.
News briefing which has including Peter Cook who sent us this voice note.
I really do feel that the cancellation of news briefing for Paris by Deborah Turness TV BBC News is a cultural shame.
This daily 5:30 program is a model of efficiency covering world news headlines, What the Papers Say sport and weather plus what happened on this day in early years all in 13 min.
I also think this is a shame for the BBC the chief executive of Muses decided to cut the smallest program and Sarah further support for the alternative new shows bloated with overpaid Andover opinionated stars, it's been After Time promoting their own podcast ironically and the BBC is cutting that was differentiated competition and I can't work out why would feedback be able to ask chief executive the news, please? Thank you.
So very very eloquent and nobita sent with a lot in it and I understand these things are not easy and I know I would say that wouldn't I but we have we have to we have to make choices to not only.
Financial climate that were in but also to invest where possible and where we need to be in when Peter ask about what differentiates US I would argue that increasing investment in investigative launching BBC in-depth, which is as I said the home of expert analysis unparallel specialist across the world on the big issues and anything and then BBC verify which others do not do with with with anything like the level of expertise on production f and journalistic effort that we do it is exactly what differentiates different BBC news from arrivals and I know that people are terribly attached to some of these programs that you mention and I'm I'm sorry to have to take those decisions, but you know we don't take them and we do believe there in the interest of an audience Ant and they keep saying within the financial climate will put the radio 2 and 5 on losing their overnight bulletins to be replaced.
Service that's upset some listeners who are aware of it and I'm sure it will upset morwenna naturally happens for those who aren't yet aware of it.
I wonder all we going to find the world service is going to tailor its buttons to be more UK focused or a UK radio listeners going to just here international news over night night overnight news doesn't generally move along a great place in the UK so you know quite often we find the overnight whatever platform you listening to might be leading on events in the Middle East or or certainly more recently event in the United States I'm older more global affairs it doesn't mean for a minute, but if there is a significant story breaking or moving in the UK that you wouldn't cover it and give it to prominence.
We absolutely he isn't going to change its bulletins to be more bespoke knowing it's got a UK audience now, but if you look at how it works so so so far at the moment if there if there are singing.
Stories breaking the UK then then then they will get you prominence as they would my name is Felicia the property I wanted to say a few words regarding the recent cast at the Asian Network I think the cats are disgraceful and they have completely unnecessary.
I mean not so long ago did Asian Network was crucial to report about the race riots that happened in the UK now with two jobs on it will be even less coverage.
Not only hard news happened, but everything else know the Asian Network this isn't just about swapping the station buttons for Newsbeat bulletins you actually cutting News programmes 60 minutes and Asian Network presenters are going there two distinct hour-long weekly programmes repeated through the week and is also a 3-hour daily show from Monday to Thursday which includes music and news based.
I'm not exactly sure and I'm not sure it was exactly sure of how many hours will losing maybe around 14 hours of programming a week, but I might be wrong and not very clear.
I wonder though overall we know it's badly hit why is it so badly? Do you not have the listeners there any more straightforward? This is this is a joint decision BBC news on our colleagues who run the Asian Network station Asian Network station actually want to discuss decision to stop the drive time the bespoke subdrive time needs bulletins and that was because they were finding and we found the audience is worry appreciate news being part of the mix and that is really important and that is why Newsbeat will provide news to Asian Network they want it coming to the drive time of the afternoon slot the exercise show for unused particularly.
They wanted to they were coming for for me for music so.
There is a plan a foot with Asian Network to have a weekly 2-hours current affairs slot which will get to tender so it's not fully formed yet, but which would be a in-depth news and current affairs discussion programme where they feel they can better get into the issues at greater length and greater depth that the that are relevant to the Asian community.
This is a platform for the kind of journalism that won't be find out.
Where is the BBC losing its pluralism by making this cotton this these programs that are fine used it's not the same programs that would be made by a news team for the Asian Network that's absolutely immersed in the Asian community making use for the Asian community.
I think that's what I think upon us across BBC News to make sure they're all our journalism is reflective of Communities across the UK did this question has come up a lot in meeting since we can actually.
I know they're very close to the heart of the Asian Network channel controller and that is why they are looking to produce more news and current affairs and I said there's more details about that to follow.
So they're not retreating from they want to just can't concentrate more in a loan form format where they can get into more depth and across the rest of BBC News this is this absolute income and upon us to make sure we cover all the stories and very much.
Hope that we can use you maintain are very close relationship with the Asian Network and BBC News to make sure that we you know that we have that input across the piece.
It feels like there's an endless managed decline in BBC News services every year there's another round of course as news has to come up with it's 4% of savings and recent research has shown that the amount of actual revenue of the licence fee Has Fallen by 42% in real terms since 2010.
I know you know all this very well, but I wonder what do you see is the future?
BBC News services on audio cuts to for example dedicated Correspondents on the Today programme we've seen the cuts.
We've just been talking about I mean what does the landscape of signed like to listeners in 5-years time will I don't know what it will look like in 5-years time but you don't need me to tell you the Landscape is moving very very quickly and that we need to move with it.
If you look at the latest.
I think they're really massively encouraging for radio four and five and four news consumption all that said we just always have consent of what what resources we have how are using them? Are we providing value for all are we being responsive to our audiences have its are and I think that's what we have these changes and somebody spends a lot of time in the commercial sector and it's a constantly changing changes constant thing, but I understand that it's very difficult when you have to make changes to.
Program brands and things that people are very very attached to you.
Just talk there about being responsive to what listeners want and I wonder these changes that you've announced.
Are they update a play or have you any interesting hearing? What listeners one? Could you change your mind about any of them many of Heartless nursery writing so please? Can you think again have something long-term loyal listeners.
We appreciate trustworthy quality journalism it challenges informs and educates Us BBC boss does not seem to value long-term loyalty however, if you're lucky you too will get older to Neville but until you're dead.
We deserve to have our needs for quality trustworthy journalism met to listen to feedback and didn't get a good sense of what audiences of thinking and what they want.
We can't always make decisions that will keep everyone happy.
I'm afraid you as director of programmes for.
News and your boss Deborah Turness see you at BBC News long and distinguished careers across many television news channels and making difficult decisions, but I can you convince listeners, how much you really know and care about radio news.
I put I guess what you're asking is because of my primary in television and digital weather weather on Focus enough on radio Warwick provide, but we will both massive and we just we've just about the morning talking about the Today programme and 5 Live this morning.
I'm a huge Radio 4 and 5 live listen.
We make these decisions as a board and they are thoroughly researched and discussed and we will have great passion for what we do and we believe in what we do and we've what we doing here is trying to make.
Really the best decisions in the climate in which Walker racing with the movement for audiences increasingly towards digital and make make what we think of the best decisions is the value for all you know that's really important to all of us, but it's done collectively BBC director of News programmes know if you've got views on the proposed changes you've just heard about please do get in touch.
I'm really keen to hear your thoughts on anything to do with BBC audio a very easy way to send a WhatsApp voice note on your 334544 you can also ring that number and leave a voice message and you can send us an email.
It's feedback at bbc.co.uk and it is at BBC R4 feedback on social media after last week's program mostly about your concerns at the end of.
Force open book and John Bonnie and Linda thank you for letting us to a mistake in the program.
We apologise for missing naming the first presenter of open book.
He is of course free Carpenter not here and we can also let you know that the program replacing up and book will be called take for books and you can hear the first episode on Sunday the 24th of November Radio 2 featured a number of programs themed around national album day the four-part series Great British groups was presented by legendary Smith guitars.
Johnny Marr was a very personal selection of album tracks from British performers to Joyce and Andrew Jones regular gig goes from Bristol went into our vauxbox to give us their verdict with the Furious of Their Own on Johnny Marrs Great British group.
Johnny Marr on Radio 2 in celebration of national album day properties in all kind of things from long players British artist of all kinds British bands as long as they go around at 33 RPM for you album to meet felt like when I want you to go round my mate's house and they couldn't wait to play the album they've got Neutrino new albums and you didn't know what they're going to pay you in a really nice way you felt freshen like that.
I thought it was going to be along the lines of episode 1 the 60s.
You know The Beatles the Stones etc episode to the 70s bit of prog rock but it Genesis Pink Floyd there is nothing like that definitely through a few surprises in and played you know I like the equals that I wouldn't have necessary expected him to have chosen.
A good example of maybe a slightly more obscure tractors when he played the love parade by the Undertones from there the final of May 1983, but it's a great song I suppose if you play the Undertones most people would have said let's play Teenage Kicks cos it's the obvious one but obviously wasn't doing that sounding very 6 psyche can a garage but without great pop Sensibility killer.
I reckon that could have been here that was when he played primary of faith.
So that just instantly took me back to being 16 and in my bedroom because I just used to listen to the album all the time or so, they say about Robert Smith more first overlooked good guitar player sounds like he looks I wasn't in his bedroom is a 16-year old we didn't know each other then put it in my bed.
15/16 and it was the tractor Magnificent Seven by The Clash from the sandinista LP sandinista, help them.
I've always loved that track.
I just love the album some of the album was recorded which I like so we go take it away the clash of the groups.
He wasn't just a fan of he'd been a member of replayed on particular album so I think he was the final track on the first episode was an oasis track and he just casually says you are played on that anything just played on an Oasis album but Johnny Mars one of those rare people whenever I mention this song to know we just sort some girls.
Yeah.
Ok, are you still obsessively read every single word on an album sleeve and the inner leaves on the lyrics the production credits, but it was all part of the experience.
I'm in really for thinking British bands.
There's not really any more archetypal sounding then.
The 60s Pink Floyd it's whimsy cold it's L it's even pastoral and its intellectual party also painterly, but the thing that struck me was when he described Pink Floyd is painterly.
I don't think I've ever heard that phrase before he's obviously got a very very good too and a phrase not that sort of stuff that I would use my data conversation because I'm not a famous rock star I would said love to him or maybe earlier banzai.
Mean.
I mean I love the animals and plants like that.
You know definitely back a little bit more.
I come to the end of the last of the shows on British bands.
It's been really nice playing this music for you.
Thanks for listening.
Take care out there Johnny's probably sick and tired of talking about The Smiths but that's what is most well-known for for completely honest so The Smiths really existed between 82 and 87 so in a way I quite like her.
HO2 which focused on those five years and was influencing him then the bands that they would have played with the bands that they were influenced by and the bands that they then went on to him, so and see if we were you had to choose between a Smith reunion or more episodes of Johnny Mathis Great British groups, which would you go far from no brainer? I'd like more shows of Johnny Moran Radio 2.
I think The Smiths were fantastic, but leave them in the 80s and I don't think it will never happen anyway four reasons between Johnny and Morrissey sadly but I see messages so one of them the American people for the exchange.
Following last week's intense US election coverage quite a few listeners said they were uplifted and licence the day after the results by discussion on Radio 4 in our time.
Maybe some other day the story of the 17th century English poet Georgia may not have caught so many listeners attention, but we got quite a response from people who had the program on the morning of November 7th and its discussion of the poet author and priest who according to the French philosopher Simone Weil wrote the most beautiful in the world what presenter of melvyn Bragg and his three experts took us through Herbert's life and we heard that starred poem read aloud even treated the hearing is poetry as it would have originally been hard.
Maybe it was just the Antidote you needed to let us politics.
Hello.
This is Jean Prince and I live in Cambridgeshire while I was doing the washing up on the 7th of
I learnt about the religious poet George Herbert is drawn towards beautiful elaborate sophisticated music If Only my university instructors were so interesting we need to discuss your Sherwood perdoret entries as I'm injection Taylor and I live in Chorley in Lancashire I was interested to find out more about George Herbert's history that he was an orator for only becoming 100 Parson towards the end of his life and I was interested that he wrote Great poetry in Greek and Latin as well as in English I enjoyed the reading of the poem love love bad me welcome yet my soul drew back guilty of dust and sin but quick I'd love observe migros slack from my first entrance in drew nearer to me sweetly questioning if I lacked anything my name is Rochelle timer.
Water from Gourock Scotland I fell to give us a really good mix of history theology and poetry I especially enjoyed the discussion around the poem love Bade me.
It's somebody is going into a pub into an in and being made welcome and they sit down have a meal the question that love asks if I lacked anything is exactly what a bartender would ask in a Tavern in the 17th century, but most of all the panel and those disgusting report exceptionally good mostly because you could be worse colours the deep Love of the subject matter and it was really refreshing other parts have been influenced by him include as you mentioned.
I think Coleridge Christina rossetti ordinary Bishop Seamus Heaney RS Thomas the Welsh devotional this is James Murray White from Cambridge News really uplifting and
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