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Has he got a new plaything Robinson senior director of strategy that a door lintel to smoke? That's what happened in this edition of the media club come on in a Rebecca Karen welcome back to the media club before I get into the big stories of the week who have you picked to add to our roles Karen will stop me I pick the journalist call Leah Shapiro who this week published a huge piece of work digging deep into the allegations of sexual violence by the author Neil Gaiman this is building on to work.

I've already done that a tortoise Media earlier this year, but that podcast though.

It was kinda made a bit of a splash of the time didn't really kind of land in the culture in a bit babe and this week her signature in New York magazine and it was produced for vulture and it really is starting to you trying to see the industry respond to in a new way.

You've seen a lot more conversation about in culture in over it has.

Which is devastating I just want to go properly now because it was really fantastic piece of journalism.

She she took the work that could have done with the dog die piranha.

She got police report she slept a lot of people around the writer and and I think it's also believed to mediate story because the magazine publication is the one already had the impact so you know maybe there's a future for print after all in the World podcast yes the same lock onto Netflix as well with that.

Sorry by Imagine the one that has the right to games.

I think I've got American gods.

They've got a good job and the next time answer it so yes addition to our roles Rebecca so actually we have also chosen.

Cute story it is heartbreaking if you are a founder of nail games like in Croydon bodywork and this persona that he had where he seemed like this kind of great committed them as a nice guy and I think the fact that was also really brilliant long feature piece that as a feature writer.

You know they don't always get much as they should do a particular nature of the phone and it's just so in doubt beautifully written particulars reported and yes as you say a really good kind of example of where sort of more traditional Media is doing been helping elevating stories that have appeared in new immediately podcast so I had a very quick.

Yes, if you so I'm going for a drink before the transport select committee.

It might have been last week take that you're probably since your last recorded, but she just made some really good points and kind of

Traits of drama and yes, she is the cheapest back of the head of the boss of which produces some fantastic drama and yeah, this is real thing about how do we keep producing high-end drama in the country.

You know and one of things is preparing any better tax credits by the government office financial support makes up in this country.

Just had a lot of things about AI because that is something that is really starting to bother the Productions actor at the moment because there are so many opportunities in it and my period will be nice to have some guidelines around and I believe is in the pipeline, but yeah, I think there's an anxiety Express a lot of things that the the sex was worrying about so that was my very quick definitely going to die.

I'm sure it's going to be a big big top it this year story we start her this week in Scotland where arouse blown up concerning the use of crew on Scott

Shoots Rebecca could we call this crew traitors we couldn't do you know we don't really know who they are and it's been around for a while that there is removed within the TV industry to produce content outside of London really good thing that you know television is made by people who live in London do you live with this weird idea of like you know kind of people outside of London and royal people will be 1 different cities Phil patronise feel ignored that represented move over the last 4 years to get stuff reduced in what's call the nations and regions and Scotland in particular in Scotland Glasgow with this massive heart.

That's really invested in for TV production know what is real particularly are craters.

Is there a lot of companies that are sort of saying.

Oh, yes look at us and the BBC has to show that it's producing a certain number of its Scottish shows and also in Scotland and it is.

Spreading that money around about whether or not any of those crew were actually Scottish studio Lambert Scotland studio Lambert is not a terrible thing you know the idea that we you know that you can live in Scotland still work for one of the big companies that makes TV shows you love he is great and we should be encouraging that but it also means that you should be able to live in Scotland and set up and be getting work and not be penalised because you don't have a base in Scotland and the you don't want a situation.

Where is based in London with an office in Scotland which may or may not be that pic and I don't want to speak to Scottish team, but you know there was a situation.

I've had a few people so I think I don't think it's a joke.

Things that there's a green street in the back in the old days, you could kind of have a PO Box in Scotland and Talent from London and just making in Scotland because that's not really doing anything for the Scottish economy the Scottish television industry, you know that pub in Glasgow cannot survive if nobody is getting employed and there is no local talent.

There are no local investment.

So there is essentially treated was registered as having been made at least 50% in Scotland and it turns out.

It's actually that doesn't seem to be true and local people in the industry have got in touch with Ofcom at this actually isn't true we know he's working on it and most of them from London and you know that it is a problem honey carrot.

Is this partly because it's a complex shoots.

It's all on location.

There is there.

Shoppers Foster you advert but they are likely to scale a thing of the size anyway, just falling through the cracks or is this systemic well that people are going to be trying to unpack think you know everybody's going to have their point of view.

I think what's likely you know from this this having been revealed in the way that it has been is there is this suspicion of things been hidden in the world least misleadingly we know that was made on which have now then discovered and corrected I suspect that the long-term implications of that are going to be a lot more regulatory scrutiny right so I would expect the set the government going to be looking a lot more closely at how do you set up because actually even though these these figures reported it still qualifies as I've got a shooto a lot of people going to ask me asking right now is that correct or you know? What will the technical rules that allow that to happen the probably have a regulator that is there whatever your system is always going to be a way of getting it so I think the intentions of Here on.

Are the regulations for setup and how these incentives work as you were saying we don't wanna disincentivize people from Croydon Scottish offices for London this firm so it's always really challenging to get that right, but I think unfortunately for everyone.

It's probably going to cause a new round of scrutiny interrogation and I'm not necessarily so we'll come out the end of it with a clear resolution perspective it somewhere.

It's not a problem and it's like still needs to be 50% if you want to come back you better start up that offer seven can just doing as I think I've been talking to a lot of the rules are just quite complicated like picking up what Karen said like they are you know because they are quite complex quite later and there is room for people.

Them off because of genuinely not understand them perhaps if there's a way to simplify those rules that might be something BBC need to look at the end credits when it brings up the map of the UK and appears.

Well, this is this is produced like the measles about a little bit of a beer he will see credible destruction in La this week as wildfires have ripped through the States and many many have lost their homes, but obviously we going to focus on on the media size.

It's all the impact of production and reproduction.

It's impact to the award season.

I mean basically all of Angela's is either shut down or operating on different schedules and people are trying to work for sensitively because even wear productions are continuing their of course are a lot of people on every crew in in the who are being affected.

I think it's kind of interesting to know that you know although the Hollywood entertainment industry in all shapes is going to be deeply affected by this a lot of production is has already moved outside.

Anyway, so I'm just about to tell you that I'm going to be a business, so he's going to be doing but I think a lot of kind of california's would be filled probably disturb you about in a long-term perspective is that this will probably accelerate a move that's already been taking place for today.

Please.

I'll side of a lie and we are by no means out of the words.

I mean the fires are so radiant.

I think it's the Windsor kind of going up and down and I think unfortunately the reality is that this is going to get worse not just this particular fire, but we'll see other instances of this type and climate change is going to impact production entertainment all around the world.

Have a good one and I think the fact that it hit right at in La at self at the heart of the global entertainment industry.

I think is is very on point but it is not surprising fortunately.

And a lot more of this type of disruption of January 20th we're going to see how Mr trump would like to support or not lost isn't in California to yeah.

I think he is well.

He started making noises about about making federal a dependant upon whether or not the people that stayed voted for him.

I think well first of all that legal constitutionalism apparently.

I think he also should give louenhide bottle whether he really wants to set up a world in which you know all red States get a bandit and if I think from political perspective while creating a very dangerous system, whereby we only look after the people who wrote the way that we do so fortunately the by demonstration.

Did not take that wrote we'll see whether trump follow through on these can get 6 million votes in California so they were there were some people who did we would quite like at the house just burnt to the ground as well.

If I mean they have on the Rebecca it's not just a telly Oscar nominations of being pushed back.

It seems and BAFTA is cancelled its annual tea party ahead of their film Awards of the most important most important thing is the feeling of I mean.

There's a practical issue.

You know this is what happens and it's all the air quality is so bad that it's plastic toxins in the air because nobody can be outside anyway, and I think this kind of the sense of you need to get on your feet a certain level before you go to feel like celebrating right.

It's going to feel a bit tasteless to be kind of girl.

Expensive dress you wear anyone has lost everything as well.

I had a couple of conversations recently with UK produces because I'm actually you know to make drama as we talk about it expensive to make drama and the broadcasters in this country comes to pay for it.

So often you go out looking for co-productions from American broadcasters, and you know this is America studio money and a couple of people who just like not picking up the phone probably just the phone doesn't exist anymore you know and other things to worry actually they do have to care about that even if they can understand the circumstances.

I would just talking about Awards Awards season and film more generally.

Timothée chalamet arrive at the Premier Inn London on a lime bike and there was no there's no hashtag spawn in there.

It's all organic quite a lot of lime people's LinkedIn posts on my feed into shop and then I think you have to you go through a process of having to Colne everyone down brand can they can actually follow their face when they are pretty please come on spotlight? It's really important that you if it is genuinely inorganic the moment some of the worst thing that you can do with jump on it to aggressive Lane right.

So you know be gracious you know and knowledge.

But you don't want to be called out of here it starts to look a bit crap.

So don't don't lose the Organic value that you've generated but yeah, I'm I'm sure they were many champagne toast 9PR HQ when they bought a single billboards of the cinemas in the Square to make mention of one of the characters acting ability of social for just a single billboard push for the purpose of them being able to put a picture of that board in the newspaper rather than a genuinely Factor nighty and I love out of home advertising it's great fun but sometimes quite often the Secret of the secrets of Media by is quite often they will buy billboards better on the

The commute of the CEO of people have placed my billboards in all the places where people are saying it, but it's just just lying a route from his drive to Dad's at the tube station where the radiotherapy was basically disasters radio project ok.

It was all the prize local TV franchises during the Coalition era, but now London live has ceased transmission Karen the local TV stories but I can accomplish conservative driven affair have particularly transformed the nature of the telly landscape have they that people keep trying nevertheless? Isn't it? So I think it's possible that London life might be kind of bored out and brought back under perhaps a different brand dinner or just a different ownership so there.

My life in the old girl yet, but I think you know as a London love myself.

I flip Out London live as a station, but you really honestly are there wasn't really content on there that was terribly compelling and I have something London might not be the best testbed for for local news because so much of the national news is local London Focus anyway that I think they really struggling to find to find an option is your friendship, where is I think the Scottish news for example Welsh news there.

There's a lot of uncovered stories having said that is it to Morrison is doing some really good work and it's really any breaking stories with his new London I think local TV for London may not be as winning a proposition as you might think it probably since.

I've already got that but definitely plenty of room to tell stories about M4 London

You know there's 11 stations in Birmingham Alabama but no stations in Birmingham in the UK and write and it's probably the way it should have been all day long.

I don't like what I saw through.

I started thinking about there's a really good article in the Royal television Society Magazine about rivals at the club show us all about television franchises in the 80s and the code of this article was like well.

What would you know? How realistic is this for people who do not remember that here and not working and people saying you have a free stuff.

We were searching for bugs in the world Twitter back, but one of the one the quotes were they were talking about the scene in rivals where they kind of have like a can of televise Pitch we talk about why they should get the franchise and sort that we had one of those and should the best thing somebody said there was I want local TV and I want local issues, but I don't only one.

Conversation and I kind of think that's where the local TV channels for down.

Where is I think like? I love local news segment or that's ok.

We finish the national BBC news now going to local users often the highest rated bit of television of all television every night, so there's there is a thing that acts as I don't know what a whole channel is just London things particularly.

You know when there is online content when I can make my own Media online in the same way as it was owned by the standards of shutting down there was talk.

I think Sky News talked about the fact that David Montgomery sort of local TV network is acquired.

It doesn't need any chat about that.

I mean.

We thought they've got more research and data disappear after he lost to the control of local world.

I mean he loves local angel, I think.

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Are we going to see the end of tea, or is it a little last-minute reprieve really fascinating in any direction does the supreme court case that was being heard this week the the read out from that is the Justice's do not like they're going to Rule and Tupac favourite.

They that the legislation was correctly past bipartisan, so I think that's probably be very much for spanning tiktok.

The boss waited it was the one thing everybody seem to agree on and it's hilarious though, because the whole argument is to talk is chinese-owned and therefore represents a national Security threat by that or not but now it takes up being under throat when I seen another chinese-owned social Media platform and kind of getting lots of download the number one in the afternoon.

I'm not sure Congress is solving the problem of things that solving stories about is it red letter I can't remember the the Chinese interactions were actually this is both countries.

Don't want which is the humans the public talking to each other and finding connections to the nearest costa.

Truck is banned in China

Selling out to my nan Chinese so nice to see they say they won't do that.

They said they can't under Chinese lol so how it's going to be resolved is on right now by dancers position is that they will take the app down people say the Lord will only require them to stop updating the app so people can be keep using their tiktok, but actually buy dentist position is know if your banned.

We will take down the app and there will be a 5 questions for Apple and Google about whether they should still list the app as well.

Then take it out ourselves.

Let me hear the sea of bytedance is going to be at inauguration the stupidest conversations.

I've ever seen televised you know there was kind of one that where kind of extensive list of saying well, you know how does it know your birthday that's creepy and that's it.

Your birthday when you sign up that's part of the age verification saying I don't know it's creepy and it is very it's that kind of a very te laisserai generation hitting a not so technically generation and I think that obscured where there may be genuine security issues around it.

I mean I love it, but yeah, I'm sure you know there are a lot of people who are very concerned about it.

When was very much.

Why would I burn it? I'm doing really well on because he's analysis of the situation and was also so it that time he was for that.

He's against it and I think it's whatever he feels like at the moment, so I wouldn't necessarily look to him for any kind of stable position, but people who are in phones trump know know how to do that so whatever whoever he's met with last is the person who is likely to wind up favourite include the fact that by 10.

She wants to be the inauguration is not surprising.

Strange review on the dais, cos you've got his perspective cabinet and then the Tech bro cos Tim Mark so lot of money up there an oligarchy techno oligarchy feel like with slipped into the you know the alternative timeline dystopia.

If someone's going to repair and see this could be like if you kill a butterfly and then vanish and they turned on the supercollider that's all I'm saying and speaking of other platforms YouTube press Gazette has revealed the biggest news brands on YouTube with voice taking the top spot and the BBC coming in a respectable for interesting how many started have 20-years ago even voice I mean it's it's hard to break into this top list.

Actually a lot of individual Media personalities have much higher media platforms then even some of the movie entities that they currently or used to work for her and as you say a lot of them are Legacy media and you I think this is interesting as well all the way it construct it because it's based on subscribers and then you look again account reviews and actually I subscribe that medication may or may not translate into actual viewership in any numbers in so some of the publications of the movie entities that are achieving the most views are quite different than the ones in the most subscribed person and actually you can see a real political slide to the right in the subscriber the house of scriber Media entities, but if you were the numbers by views you get MSNBC in some of them or lovely evening was coming in so things will be very passionate about getting it.

And then perhaps more media consumption but less loyalty on the left which is seen a side effect.

I'm doing pretty well actually with his TV show that TV show with his show he's taken out in house from from News UK people them in the same sort of I'm A Celebrity is a pretty good thing is that I managed to get control off and I think there is something about you know one of the discussions within the TV industry.

How can we get tiktok Stars YouTube Star want to be your honour TV show is interesting that you've now got people coming from that Legacy me that traditionally going yeah, maybe maybe that's the thing to do maybe I want to be on a YouTube show I mean also I've been spending a lot of time with.

Relative in the last few months and his little bit we can't really as much as I used to and he watches so much YouTube and he just flick through because he loves you meant real of the actual thing you who watched the TV news and then he will go and go on YouTube and watch that yeah, he's got it.

Set up on his TV with you know very young teenagers early 20s and may well be a silver algorithm that he does have an interest in history on a course.

It's not supporting you towards mid-century history and then you come on and you're like that immigration.

I would pass out with someone else if that's all that we're going to watch something else now my 11-year old daughter is also watch out of YouTube so just been since she was very young.

She's able to do it terrified we argue.

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So maybe the first new proprietor to launch a rocket into space, but it hasn't stopped other media companies from announcing their own launches this week, but can you tell me what they launched tell you I know but it's best of three person if you know the answer your name is your buzzer Rebecca you will say can you say let's play lunchtime number one who will be hosting the New Look match.

Karen yes Three presenters, yes, I'm Kelly cates, and I think you weren't going to get one person to replace that kind of figure so to have people that are able to bounce off each other.

I think that's a really smart choice well, Gabby Logan and Mark Chapman already the sports agents for Global it's a good thing.

It's a bad thing.

Would you be happy for Global Towers that you your big stars in the match of the day if I would love a very happy.

I think of you.

It's always right.

They've already got the talent that and it can I bring you people in so I think you know it's it's pretty sweet deal for them.

I think it's nice that.

I don't see the problem with it, but I think there is something really interesting about building two competing mentorn Media Enterprises with the same sets of town, but you know it's not it's not such anything people have always had portfolio careers in media, so I don't have a problem with it a lot of targets of for my shifts for Match of the Day and this is a cross Match of the Day and Match of the Day 2 and probably send some social lb can a covering all of it? I mean it's sort of a football content universe I think so, I think there's been around for a long time because opportunity to have a shake-up to think about a who's watching when you know are people watch on catch up watching live and watching Match of the Day 2 are they are they watching online on on social media clippings like I think it's all very sensible.

What is ldd news limited launching in London this is a

the evening Standard print edition

Londonderry news Close London I think it's London daily digital print and a lot of digital send a digital and 60s from Newsroom which is very poor people who does nation publications that a prototype you can go and have a look at sort of leaves very much into the more good news and lots of council press release converted content how many difficult to establish something of the quality of the space it is I think I want to be optimistic about the a really want because I feel like I'm going to go on the internet and there's no money anymore.

Sorry guys and that parties used to be great.

But like I just think there is there is of you want to believe very much but we are always going to need reliable new stories and local news stories and see that's as you said they're going to do and he's doing very well and I think I want to believe that this is kind of that we put them on our way up to find a balance of actually we do need some of this stuff because you know there is about misinformation Online influencers being people made a new sources somehow we've got a redress that balance and I want to believe that this might be it's never going to be the kind of the licence to print money that used to be back and I am coming but I want to believe that ok, maybe this is the start something maybe that's horrible know if it's not going to be honest.

I like reggae Underhill full I always like to see you know local local news kind of finding it.

I also was reflecting on the fact that one of the problems that a lot of people.

That everyone's going to get their news from a I will AI can generate generate do is all you can do is project from bases with and put in bed and one of the world challenges that AI companies that they don't have enough good data and over the course of time as more and more sources to come out influence.

They just feeding on each other so bad data is produced by that feeling too well.

That is so I guess that's just a way of saying actually original local news contact creation.

I think would be really valuable not only further people can see me the first instance but actually building a better day ahead and a better kind of information for our future robot overlords to use the ex and its uses Twitter as part of it makes it like a quick to respond a I apparently it was generating some inaccuracies which people were talking about on Twitter but then drop was reading that.

Therefore reaffirmed its initial incorrect views, can I no longer use Twitter but even back when I used to I tried out Brock don't use it guys.

It's really it's really not a good product.

I'm leaving in around the day.

I hate Sam as you might expect because that sells it information is kind of light only reliable in the aggregate bright like in the scheme of things you sometimes get the information being credited, but he's just producing very poor quality product at the moment.

Do you think like you know how people joke about if we had the Olympics and we had some people who are the normal Olympics as well.

I kind of feel like normal reliable news sources and then maybe a daily news source of what I think is happening today could be quite label on the sort of the inserting a lots of rock every every point of it.

You can't get it to.

I got it to look at my profile as the button appeared saying get a description you can read all my sweets and I had in my bio and say it was half right then half inserted another person that was call Matt wasn't even like you just wasn't even though I wouldn't mind sending of how it's been used including a lot of Media Enterprises of assuming that it's purposes in is purpose the information is purpose is not information is purpose of generation and if you're trying to kind of I need to get something quickly it can be very powerful for that, but if you want to be see radiation unknown facts.

If not a good starting point fundamentally.

Brock is a terrible name.

It does when you were saying or a load of my new what is the BBC launching on Monday the 27th of January

It's on the wireless Rebecca yes, what is swiftrise for score on Radio 2 Steve Wright slots a good place for him to be yeah, I think so, I think you know what is almost all cells have got a good following because people listen to on my way to Birkin and and like you say it doesn't Spire a lot of loyalty so if you can get in there and you can do it well.

You are going to get that lot of you are going to be the voice that kind of people pick up the morning with so ok, if he does a good job of it over 20-years.

Yeah, I mean I Tend To Be have a go at doesn't it because they're so people who are in as well, so I contacted some other people's daily lives once you're nothing Zoe Ball have heard that before and it's got her said it's this was his this was that

What you want, so yeah? I think he fell in well and you know the show goes really well.

I think you know he'll be a part of people's daily lives for a long time to come in and I think that's great.

I think people still still really look to that confidence sensitive kind of the parasocial relationship that we have with people and especially in a sense of community members in my head.

You get to provide rock with more information about the show together to come up with some better answers if you do that for next time that be great.

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