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Place of the week lovely to have you both here Lisa who's had a good Media week this week.

Would you like to add to a media club rolls, Bradford crime writer AA he's behind the best-selling novels about the fictional seek detective Harry Virdee and he's just adapted this for the screen.

So he's BBC 16-drawer first aired on Monday I was lucky enough actually to be at the Premier Inn Bradford last week in the beautiful Victorian splendour of st.

George's Hall ware incidentally the Labour Party for the beautiful Victorian architecture in Bradford but he gave a really you know inspiring personal story he you know Bradford but the guy from the corner shop busy as he said who became a pharmacist he was an avid crime fiction reader and noticed you know very few cells.

Protagonist so thought he broke his own.

I'd like to put him in here for his incredible resilience it took him 10 years to get published 9 years for the TV drama to I'm in and it's great hall, Bradford sets stars stars in there from Game of Thrones who's so charismatic on-screen brings really emotional depth to it and I didn't you know at one point it would have been quite unusual to have seen a British Asian lead drama in primetime.

That has multifaceted characters that explores issues like interfaith marriage detective married to a Muslim wife is disowned by his father.

It's good.

It's already really good watch tonight.

I recommend it and what sort of an apprentice scheme that run alongside so they're really looking at how to try and make sustainable careers out of London and one of the one of the guys Azam

Zimmer in in LA and Aiden has quite a funny story about that because apparently Hans Zimmer when he's writing imagines this character of Chris in Bradford so this all came from a BBC documentary that I'm it was watching where he was describing how you know who used to play music in northern working men's clubs in the 80s or and he writes for Doris because he thinks she works hard all week and she can go to the pub or she can go to watch films and listen to music so he really wants to make it worth her money so aid and for I'm in a right to him.

So he wrote an email to Hans Zimmer and said so I'm writing a drama for Doris in Bradford how about you write the music for a British Lead so he did 10 days later Hans Zimmer sends the theme tune is really should also say boys.

About the sum of the transatlantic nature of streamers that actually we've got a really Double Down on our own UK stories completely I'm a big fan of particularly that social commentary that has the element that has really powerful the way to pick the religious divide within the relational and I think it's his name on the on the credits roll the hell.

Did you get it now? I know that's what we talking to people you a mat.

Speak when we were creating heat back today in the late 90s 9999 used to think of my name is Susan in Norwich who is no specific early thirties kind of imaginary person and all of what you were doing at her so to speak so funny registrations often often stations in the past where there is like a cardboard cutouts of slightly dog-eared one.

It's like that was like 2 years ago target audience and this Google

Immediate club list the Street from my quite who is the creator writer producer of the white Lotus extraordinary figure he writes every single episode himself otherwise episode 2 season so far the third one starts as we speak to you on Monday on Sky on my son.

He loves it but one person.

There's no right as room and you must know the big strike on writing heat people phoned him saying well.

You got to have a bright and I'm not on my watch the showing it's so authored by him in it.

So he has his obsessive obsessions and themes breaking taboos exploring illicit relationships and if you think you've seen a lot of that in Series 1 and 2 in terms of its deployment by the way of sickling male full frontal nudity is quite extraordinary.

If anyone seen series 12 you may remember that certain moments.

No, I ain't seen nothing yet and all I can say and he really was brilliant about him is he has reached this point where you can go wrong HP11 because this shows a massive hit them as a cultural phenomenon.

They've already said you can do it soon as for whenever you like.

He really goes there he he's like well.

I'm going to explore whatever the hell.

I want to do while watching you thinking what are those HBO exact think when I get to this moment so yeah, it's extraordinary.

I've seen six of the eight episodes of the new season and it's for normal wants to be in the people who are really coming through.

I was watching a lot of stuff.

That's watching the Amazon prime numbers drama thing Apple TV

Come from the pid security the undercard this time one of the stand that is only would the British actress whose fantastic and loads of stuff coming up on Netflix for Jack Thorne show could be talking about a minute and she's brilliant Jason Isaacs one of the roles of his career.

It's in this is quite insulting that kind of extreme roller don't give anything away so you're right.

It's unexpected people like Jason I think in in key roles.

Yes, it's fascinating and that's out on sky NOW TV I guess it's only Monday Monday Monday the 17th as we speak Italian shows up and speaking of which Channel 4 had some announcements.

They just announced their drama slate at the second hand by a relatively new drama commissioning.

Boyd would have they will they next well not that kind of a mix of I would say big star names when it comes to creative so Jack Thorne I think probably the headline that you are talking about coming up on Netflix in a few weeks time with my local town which is based on true story, but I think he's kind of specialised a little bunny productive his Dark Materials in Crediton travel time to when it comes to creating shows based on complicated story.

It's I think he also has a lot of based on reality series as well like texting down coming up.

This is his first love story and it's all about the love between Un and a Catholic priest.

I'm on board already.

It's called falling and I just like the idea of any work because he's one of the most prolific writers in the world Netflix series has the name Stephen Graham as a lesson so you're exactly so he's a busy.

You like to keep myself busy, but he's brilliant is an absolute genius.

Oh, and I think it's exciting this doing this kind of personal story about faith and relationships and then there's not a true story in the computer and cleaning companies own imagination so remake or reboot an adaptation to see how he approaches A Love Story given that he's never done before but I guess knowing Jack Thorne it will be me and moving in all about so yeah sounds great.

I'm from a novel of the same name the most exciting thing about this is it's it's been adapted by Jen statsky who co-created hacks like one of the best a long time to come to this country most recent series on Sky thankfully.

There's a brilliant show that's exciting Pierre is written by John by John Donnelly and play whiterow Williams and that's about stars David Harewood

Interesting as a duty solicitor you've got I love Daisy Haggard like if you help me about the fantastic town and she's back to life for the BBC and now she's doing a comedy about witness protection now.

I think she specialised in dark comedy protection.

I think what is the Simon Pegg rice and hosted the launch come to your name and I remember that good tolka write the stuff in one question.

I'm pretty sure it was 25 minutes, but I got to sign a question.

I think that we commissioned it was soon after went out pretty well for Channel 4 so I'm excited to see that bag.

How old are you now have such an impact that kind of you know revenge story and rags to riches tale, so you know the Year the house becomes the richest woman and I didn't realise it was 40 years, but it was made a for Channel 4 and their most successful drama at the time so I think I'll be fascinating to see how they've realised it's you know it feels really relevant today.

Maybe I'll bring that back, but it's made about the rising manosphere and challenges around social mobility that in a negative way so kind of searing Lee it's really coming out of drama Drama budgets to pay for it.

Well.

That's good question I think.

Everyone is talking about how do you find shows whether it's scripted or Unscripted I think inscripted particularly America is just become challenging.

I want the same co-productions.

There's a concern that it might become more protectionist under Donald Trump and so people having to think differently about pre-sales for drama.

You know other territories like Europe and you know then there's screen agency funding which really differs it's almost a postcode lottery certainly in England that channel 4 have just announced.

They're going to be ring-fencing 35 million over the next few years for the Nations so Scotland Ireland and Wales we'll all benefit from that, but yeah, what about England is it is a question that can take on the streamers with the shows I think to an extent like an early staff to try and I think it's a good thing about it.

Is the doubling of the budget and the number of commissions cos I do think it's that bit thin on the ground Channel 4 original drama in recent years.

I mean it's a good one the Gathering last year was also I think a great example for should be doing with a drama that young people and various issues incorporate into a really compelling story we are proud of Maggie recently with Steve Coogan and bits and pieces.

They haven't felt it's been a priority to say the least and I don't quite a lot of shows adapted from the water presents.

Let me know international things have done UK English language versions of those with seems very kind of straightforward hits but if they're going for original new commissions and some of them might be that the one and only version of that story but the fact that investing in drama.

I think because often defined by drama as you know drama scripted drama and comedy particularly and then very well to have waterwall factual entertainment that's great and then shows all breakout.on be huge.

But I think when you think a long-term you think of you think of shows the define channels anything you're trying to try and make that more of a destination.

I mean that's it's the second division streamer because that's all great content on but it's hard for the PSPs to cut through sometimes with really is and I think you no dramas resonate.

They are the things people talk about him boys absolutely right.

It really gives a sense of identity to a channel.

So yeah, hopefully they will cut through with with some of them when we see you know performance of British content on the streaming obviously last year that surrounds us was talking about the top 506 shows on Netflix for all British so there is a cute global at appetite for our content as well and Really Channel 4 should be absolutely no front and centre of that I was looking at the top ten on Netflix

What's what's showing at the WWE submarine my TV drama the date looks like 2007 is going to high up in the mountains her menu.

Shall I got your cell you never told me about this shows that he is not yet completely unexpected to them as well and they're filming you that something like something from 2003 in all become the most watched thing of that week is a fascinating situation somewhat disastrous instruction of a new play summaries at the BBC's conducted the study and found the all of the major AI chatbots are currently unable to accurately summarise the news at least the BBC wood doing.

Yes, so they for a month they allowed the chatbot, so chat GPT CoPilot perplexity to have access to the website.

It doesn't normally allow that so this was an experiment to see how would these AI assistants summarise news content and guess, what not very well at home.

So 51% were deemed to be having significant issues, so essentially they have 200 questions and then the answers were assessed by a specialist the BBC me know things like accuracy impartiality and it's some of it was quite troubling.

He knows things like advising the NHS doesn't rise the use of vapes to give up cigarettes when actually it has a swap and stop program.

So it does you suggest that survival method the tragic story.

French rape victim, it's suggested that she has had a blackout or some sort of memory loss and suddenly realise that these crimes have been committed.

It was the police who showed her the video evidence I think it's it's just troubling given as you spoken about on This podcast The Rise of Mis and disinformation exponential Rise it is so overwhelmingly difficult for people to just know what to trust anymore also use this story.

I was surprised how bad it was I would have expected to get from the wrong and we're not really there yet by 50% seems really poor people expect there to be more accuracy and it's about how you control that you know the Tech Giants have the power here and it's if you think about.

If people no longer know what to trust and what to believe they just stop believing anything and I think that's so worrying you know for the future of democracy feeling about covod how important trusted public health information was in the role that they public service broadcasters played during that time as absolutely vital if you've got chatbots summarising information.

You know it could be really dangerous and you know when you're talking about something like public health in god forbid.

We ever get something like over again.

So I think the repercussions are enormous.

It's actually some Deborah Turness the chief of BBC News really highlighted.

So I think it's it's just another example really offer of this world of confusion about controlling BBC don't allow the material to be to buy the doors supposedly / the the services though, they probably do anyway.

But actually looking at it and see where the control lies for media companies that produce this content and I think becomes becomes quite important and it's good that BBC this you work for a massive magazine publisher and radio broadcaster.

Do you worry about them getting into all of your reviews can there be virtual virtual Boyd constantly constantly not to worry about it, but the more you told not to worry about the money worry about it might be interested because I use a like if your journey is a lot of people are not people speak to someone about that and you recording you and everyone says I can't you just Be transcribed by ai ai ai transcription services and I do use one of them but oh my god is so inaccurate you have to go to the whole thing.

It's almost as long to double check it as it would be just transcribed yourself and I was transcribing if you the other day actually using this they say I am.

The answer that one mate the position gave was 100-percent the opposite of what was in the transcription and people to someone that's fine.

It's work perfectly it's completely at 4, so it's just one of those you just got to be really careful with that.

I don't know I'm not sure that you might have to have the human double checking I think it's really nothing there are some great AI tools is Boyd said that really help sometimes they help speed up in transcription or you know for subtitling of putting things into different languages even going through massive volumes of data.

Are you doing an investigation of course? You need a brilliant investigations team at the heart of all of that but sifting through that sort of data can really help but you can now with so much information out there The Newsroom could spend half their time verifying content figure out.

What's what is in.

Where's the room for the original journalism? You know it's it's an

Mindfield for already challenged resourced resource wise newsrooms it really is just another problem.

Previously that 20 years ago.

Is it like Wikipedia Wikipedia because anybody that it's not very good.

Where is Wikipedia even created by loads of humans everything fixed pretty much since it's becoming really great source of that shift has changed.

Maybe the same thing with a piece of you.

Have a I was only trained on good good Cop tents high profile writers actors everyone is is really sore Up In Arms about all of that so in an access to the content and what we have laws already.

So, why can we not just sort of tough enough copyright framework and I'm sure you know that the work is protected properly.

I'm in and see you know the chatbot story a lot of detector didn't even respond when we know when asked by the BBC I think open a I came back and said they making improvements to search all the time.

They're adding inline citations and saucers, but there's a long way to go more and more to be done from Business Insider suggest Netflix might start hosting video podcast to say I could have a Netflix TV by Netflix somebody shows to do really well.

Joe Rogan to the world and think that get them on maybe maybe but I couldn't you if you were Netflix investing in podcast podcast sample.

Singing seems to be in America as a whole kind of world of kind of awkward political often quite right wing inverted commas year 3 long in a podcast interviews etc.

And I wouldn't Netflix cheap.

You know you could film this value often with us right now because I do for the TV is we film as well goes on YouTube you just have to do that now and Netflix would have access to some pretty impressive Talent I think and if they can get them in a romance film the moment of it.

Why they wouldn't say the Joe Rogan example.

Is is a really significant one and his interview with Donald Trump 3 hours long as boys said but got 20 million views on YouTube in 20 hours and the first hours.

I think it's a really interesting 144 Netflix it does make sense podcast are obviously cheaper to make scripted and

Companies who are used to creating something else that takes a lot more resources for people employees a lot more people and it's easy to film a chat like this and the preparation for that is much less than if you're making a traditional dr02 everyone is looking at their IP and how can you explain that to the max so the podcast becomes a live tour where you can make loads of money it can be a drama as we saw with sweet Bobby on on Netflix so I think you know there are examples where actually is a really good way especially with emerging Talent so am I also look at that you know yes, it's got the funds to go for the big names some of the big names are already signed off Elsewhere and have exclusive deals you know like Alex Cooper call her daddy, which is I think them.

To buy women on Spotify so there's people that already tied up, but there's clearly others who would happily take the Netflix dollar but the Creator story in a massive success for YouTube I think they've got 400 million hours of YouTube podcast content so no surprise that created a way for them, but they need to give answers for YouTube you're going to interview TV and film stars previously you're competing against TV shows and newspapers and bags.

Have you got the YouTubers in podcast in that list waiting to go to the I mean? I mean we are example of a podcast on podcast and I think.

People don't people don't make the differentiation in fact a lot of the time.

They know they can get much better access all much bigger audience going to Pakistan going into Google fashion print Media so that's something in the way forward, but I just think it's shows up 3 hours long 2 hours long should you leave to arrive in the heyday of when Focus first started being told the optimum time is 36 - 36 minutes in the world is in 30 seconds that cliche that's alright.

I was been exploded by the popularity of extremely long form of everything so I was talking to someone about about Joe Rogan and if you have a mother manual job where you would tradition listen to radio all day on in the background will actually why would you listen to a 3 hour podcast?

Think about the environment and see you've got to put the car to a penis of radio distribution method and then you don't got YouTube taking a video to the user generated content thing with Netflix on the airbag curated group of content like that at the moment or do they want to open up a bit more like YouTube probably not entirely, but should you let shows upload themselves and their sort of the best ones with different models that they could take a minute they could they could licence you know big names already.

They could show that exclusively for period and then it could go on other platforms.

They could do and supported model.

They could do at free premium.

You know they could have that create environments ultimately they know they need to keep people on the platform for longer and get more subscribers.

So there more people are engaging with content the better so the more content they can have.

Please no production tutor content the better but also podcast are you have an incredibly loyal audience for podcasts and that's probably something else that they are thinking about you you want attention exactly.

It's also interesting that kind of topics that resonate you know like boys saying politics.

You know you wouldn't think that people in deep diving if 3 hours into politics the Joe Rogan trump one has knocked off the top spot on Apple by The Rosary in a year huge so religion and politics said don't talk about them to look at this year's creative cities convention.

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Welcome back here's what we've been talking about in the media club this week's news UK is taking control of Octavia into the advertising platform.

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We expect it so that both can come to push ahead with their own individual streaming plans may be losing a third of its staff to voluntary redundancy according to the press Gazette we should be surprise given the terms of voluntary scheme are reported to be £120000 person Notice Period and TV and radio set time on Wednesday the networking events organised by packed and audio, UK and America is there a few trends a TV producers looking to test new IP on smaller budgets and audio looking for TV selling power at maybe they should all have a big swap right.

I guess that are back with us at least you're on the second month for ATM up to Bradford

This is creative cities convention.

It's going really well actually this city is really buzzing they've really regenerated the centre.

It's looking amazing and there's such an excitement not just about the conference but you know that the rest of the Year obviously the cities city of culture and we've got two days in May 7th of May of debate sessions screenings were actually opening the first night with a screening a preview screening of the Bradford City stadium fire obviously I really powerful story but it's also really celebrate the kind of community spirit and unity and resilience of the city and it has such an impact national as well.

We've got Tim Davie in conversation with Tracy brabin, West Yorkshire mayor so the BBC DG has spoken a lot about the importance of production.

Nations and regions witches what creative cities convention is all about it's the only conference for people working in film TV digital content outside of London city every year and we thought it would be great to have the Bradford City backdrop, and I think it's such a opportune time actually for a convention like this.

It's all the lines with government thinking a unit of the industrial strategy growth of the creative Industries and Lisa Nandy has been particularly passionate about her support for sustainable regional production and she gave quite a tough talk to broadcast Bosses at the Royal television Society convention last year you know she said we should shame that our industry is one of the most centralised exclusive industries in the UK so you know we're all about showcasing the Talent

Play across the UK how do we better serve and represent the nation and having this crucial conversations around? How do we have these sustainable regional production hubs special companies opening regional offices, but that's not coming from those those areas directly from companies like a quite keen to claim successes and challenges series being made of being made in a region clearly has an impact if you're using local crew and that kind of thing but it's about you need a returning series to make this you know the long-term sustainability and I think I think that's the big challenge and as Lisa Nandy said as well.

You know the talent.

Is there the opportunity isn't there and how do we just make it a Farah place?

Talk to people in the TV Industry at the time in every say would we have left our hometowns if we could have stayed where we were other media created it.

Just wasn't an option with the challenge that very similar people you know if you need to live in a city or support yourself in the city when you're not earning much money.

It doesn't make her a TV tax for a screen sector that represents the country is a whole no absolute me and you know it has an impact on the kind of stories being told and you know look at it and they said you would that be coming to the screen if it wasn't Bradford City of Culture with there wasn't that emphasis on supporting that Talent that don't have a platform to bring these kind of stories to a broader audience.

I think it's really difficult now even more I mean no back then we could just afford to live in a flat you know we try and smooth are accents a bit whatever I don't know if you have to do that for the same extent but the rent in London is just completely and affordable for sale.

Show me people but then in the regions you've had a lack of investment.

You know poor infrastructure cost of living crisis goes on so it's a really challenging time.

We saw some depressing and we're not going very much about let's be optimistic.

You know where is the growth? How can you can people pivot into different areas? Can we look at digital content and all of the opportunities? They are podcasts and broadcast is it really interesting the sort of our old structures crumbling mean that there's a new opportunity for for so many more people and you know we're going to look at things like the impact of the soaps which four decades had such an important role in leading the way on the talent pipeline and Sarah Lancashire Sally Wainwright Russell T Davies all of the people that have come from the North particularly and really fried so I think it's you know Samir Shah said.

BBC you know you shouldn't have to leave to succeed as all the dates may 7th of May on the website and sign up now keeping you busy at the moment because you can subscribe and extra all the pilot TV that is and that the other day yesterday and last week about the white Lotus he was on very good form yesterday o'dowda Christina Hendricks who are in this new shape that has written and created for Sky called small town big story which is kind of like you know how in Game of Thrones where you know the shoes volume production invaded small towns in Northern Ireland is taking the idea.

What would it be like for the people living in a small village in Ireland to somebody have this massive huge, Hollywood production.

Christina Hendricks plays the Connolly producer who's got issues, she's going back to the small town but you said earlier how there's loads of great TV in February and where you feels like there's three or four five or six really really good big boys and I mean Jack Brooks Channel 4 comedy comedy it's incredibly moving and emotional this final series autobiographical.

That's showing and double bills on Sunday night at the moment the last two will be next weekend and also blonde as as everything has to be these days box setted on Channel 4 streaming service and I told thing in one go pretty much and it is absolutely brilliant piece of work.

I think it will go down as one of the great kind of half hour comedy shows ostensibly of the time.

And you had spectacular emotionally devastating as well.

I wouldn't want everyone but I really really want to know what does next because this is such a personal story for him and all kinds of ways about the loss of his father is best friend about sexuality etc, but I think you just saying it's not so autobiografico and I'll be such a tenant in very and it was you talking.

He's a working class or die.

You know when University friends in not the case stories that is a kind of heartwarming and inspirational one where you know? It's just is terminal own cider for the show got him the year of Channel 4 commissioning a dataset of kudos as well for doing that so that's the show at the moment.

I think there's also I think the BBC schedule on Wednesday nights on BBC One am I being unreasonable and Amanda land the motherland and Wednesday night BBC One has not been.

Put these two really good quality shows that used to be on a Friday night as a Friday night didn't BBC One comedy night for years and years and years the role of shifting a little bit of dovetails with streaming and traitors came up a different take on your iPad to your drive excitement and study mix it all together and I think maybe knowing that but always cannibalising everything's anyway.

They're always same watching the one what does a box set on iPlayer or iTV X or whatever and at the same time showing it live if you like the girls coming up scanning on a Saturday night on BBC One at 9:25 and this is from James Francis company bad wolf and it's a really daring bold quite raunchy story of post WWI shenanigans in.

Alice and it's just this is a Saturday night, but that's what good good luck to you soon.

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Let's see how much pension you been paying to the media this week and this week quiz entitled renew reboot or revenge three bits of content returning to our devices soon you tell me if they can be loosely defined and it's a maths quiz so it's literally divide as a renewal by broadcaster a reboot or revenge and affection somewhere else and I'm up against the TV box of all time unfair.

Play jewel say boys and Lisa you're saying let's play renew reboot or revenge ok question number one big mood on Channel 4 renew that is a second series of the Nicola Coughlan comedy.

My name is Lisa or I guess I don't know is it a reboot.

It's moving from BBC to wonder a so I don't know maybe they will change the for that I'm saying revenge revenge.

There's moved from BBC sounds to wondering transfer sometimes big money transfers others just commissioning changes and people's Minds change and it's with a certain pocket hole on the BBC I think sometimes.

I think why why is this thing that's very commercial big stuff.

They got a big stars that give them a producer whatever they and they are podcasts which ends up being quite a huge, but why should it be the BBC does I don't know that seems likely about whether you know if successful this one out of five live show and it's something else.

No swearing and personalise is that seems to me that should be on her I think I should be on the door licence licence fee for the pain for that.

I don't know Harry Potter on HBO Max replied.

Yes, yes, this is almost everyday has a different who is being called story in the Harry Potter huge, Harry Potter is coming up by their going to adapt every single readapt every single novel more details on the film that could have done blessed of surely no-brainer massive success plus a dangerous and yet it probably will be I mean you think of the Lord of The Lord of the Rings spin-off.

Sing to the Lord of Power which is the most expensive TV show ever episode and I think it has done pretty well for prime video well enough for them to carry on doing I think the hardcore fans who love it.

Don't know really but that's Harry Potter still an enormous even more popular with obviously with younger people out there in The Lord of the Rings from the talking stuff.

So if you like a bit of a no-brainer and if they are so John Lewis girl to be playing Dumbledore I think I saw that so you know it's an opportunity to car some brilliant people in the in the older rolls and find some stars to play the out to do january-february time next year they sell this as a special prize investigate.

Should be concentrating on renewing rebooting your revenge for the show next thank you both be great to have you here check out the pilot TV podcast and the convention can get tickets for down and thank you to you for joining us as well.

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