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Please go to 10 in Europe at the senior executive editor, Cape de tell us what's in store for the original newsletter publisher that senior investigations reported Jake cancer is here to divide what happens next all that plus baby reindeers Richard Gadd talks to us about what you said for Fife to get his story out there.

New quiz we reveal what you could have one that's all coming up in this edition of the media Club Club before we get into the big stories of the week.

I'm trying to see what I guess.

It's the people they would like to add to the club roller skates.

You've made into Media club.

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You're in but who do you like to join us in our place your surroundings? Thank you so much are all heading to Washington and maybe not quite all of them are heading across the Atlantic Harry Cole from the sign and out this week is going to be relocating.

We've got Katy balls from the Times Lara spirit as a whole gang of them.

We like to our own Jack Blanchard from politico.

Who made this move around the time of the trump inauguration and now rights RDC PlayBook was a bit of a trendsetter, but I think there is a

Brits to Washington so those will be my nominations open an American outpost to cope with all of them was quite interesting.

It's sort of positioning him kicked out of Piers Morgan multi-hyphenate multi-platform chap.

Do you think he's going to have success over that side of the pond well? I guess it depends really well.

He is targeting an American audience or a British one.

I do think Harry's.

Got a very good way of connecting directly with people he's brought that through all sorts of things he's worked on you've got Twitter feed for many years now of course with his YouTube show I think he has understood that connection with an audience and a presenter that is now changing so much of the media landscape and so I can imagine him building on that really quite successfully, I think also listeners and readers Across Britain is so interested by American politics that feels I can very smart move to me.

Breaks in American audience which I think was more the Piers Morgan intention.

I don't know I guess that that has yet to be seen but I think certainly to captivate Brits with everything going on in trumpland.

Harry got pretty good chance a more about Piers Morgan later on in the show Jake answer from deadline.

Who would you like to add to my membership lists this week? I'm going to add Katy Rourke who is head of entertainment ITV the reason I'm doing that is because she commissioned a series of the assembly where the BBC failed to do so I don't know if you've seen early.

It's a really great show at region in France and basically a celebrity subject themselves to interrogation from a group of neurodivergent people and it's just such joyful fun.

If you haven't seen it.

I recommend starting with the Danny Dyer episode which is recently.

TV shows a very different light I think the Hardman image sort of fades away and he's crying constantly on camera.

I'm flabbergasted the BBC having are special on this out last year as part of autism awareness week didn't continue to a full series but I think that's been to ITV's benefits info about why that happened to Sean it was a slam dunk for 40 series The Producers have hinted at the fact that the BBC did not have enough cash to commission it I'm sure there's some truth in that.

I can't imagine it says ludicrously expensive show to make maybe heading towards bidding war Status No Doubt there'll be a post-mortem about why that happens for some for BBC later on too.

So this week.

We learnt at the chief exec of Channel 4 Alex Mahon will leave in the summer to talk about this is saying that the

The creator of business leads of Channel 4 been there quite a long time that we were ready for something new Jake wine out of Alex well.

I mean you're right.

I mean we've had this sort of quite impressed period of stability at the top of British television.

There's been basically no change for the best part of a decade Alex man has been in the job for 8 years.

You know I think the life cycle of chief executives between 5 to 7 years is probably quite healthy, so she's over Ron that that period of time yo there's been speculation for two years.

I say about her future some of it wishful thinking I would say people have been quite keen to see regime change at 4:30 for some time and I think it wasn't a great surprised that she now it's to departure.

I do think the timing of it was a bit of a shock to people I've spoken to a channel4.

They didn't expect it to.

What's a broccoli and if she says she's going in the summer? She's already announced her new job which is that can be called superstruct.

It's slightly curious job actually and not one we expecting she was thought to be causing roles in both fashion and tech and indeed in the industry.

Hope I've been up since superstruct is like it runs festivals including boardmasters, which takes place in Cornwall is owned by a couple of very big private equity houses kkr and CVC Capital Partners yeah, be really interesting to see what she does there and whether she enters the media space that we talked about regulate to go alongside.

It where you could earn money decent that money elsewhere.

Is it? I'm not sure I agree with that last one.

Sorry ok? She's been the best day ever.

She was doing something similar at Disney should probably be slightly better possibly.

I mean she's and really good money at Channel 4.

I don't think we should should have a look that I think she'll probably be remember this the chief executive who is Stacey Channel 4 through quite chaotic and turbulent Waters Yoshi's contend with the and you and had market crash and perhaps most importantly attempt to privatise Channel 4.

I think it's really easy to forget how febrile the the environment was around channel audio the head of swaggering Boris Johnson government to deal with and Nadine dorries culture secretary who Hell Bent on privatising Channel 4 and Alex is a scientist.

She's a bad PhD physicist and she made a very evidence-based case for Channel 4 the future and her sort of calm methodic.

Documents basically one through and common sense prevailed and the government ditched it as a proposal and no Channel 4.

I don't think there's going to be privatisation conversation around for a long time.

I think he takes right she lived through very political x didn't she yes absolutely and A wave of politics the sort of blue in and then moved on to the other places so I think I mean I have no special inside track on on Channel 4 but I certainly think I would Echo the point about the complexity of the political stuff she found herself in for a period of time.

It does feel like giving shift in global politics the intensity of that one is probably moved on for the time being and and the next person that seats won't have quite the same configuration to contend with at least immediately I don't know that some of the underlying politics has gone away.

I think some of those questions about the role of public.

Broadcasting in any Media landscape are still alive and well bubble up again in due course you see some of that all the time but that but I imagine that will come back so I don't think that says sorry gone away but that but I agree that storm channel 4 sort of written through in and come out for now this week.

Just won't exist in the UK in 10-years time.

Ok.

I mean he's not wrong but why she was he saying this now.

This is him making a case for his new YouTube offering I would say I think the death of me has been predicted the whole time.

I've been a Jealous actually trained on a course that was called newspaper journalism and began my career on a tiny newspaper in Silicon Valley and California and at the Telegraph for many years newspapers so far have managed to evolve.

It's been quite a bumpy ride that they have come out the other side and are doing interesting thing.

On all kinds of platforms nowadays there a world away from where they were even 10 years ago, so I would say the death of newspapers has long been predicted and so far hasn't happened, but he's not wrong that there's a huge amount of disruption to contend with and that put significant pressure on on business models and we've all seen examples of them is really good at arguing for whatever doing now being the future, so that was his move to ITV that it was Talk TV now.

He needs linear Channel when you get a YouTube channel my YouTube channel this is definitely the future what everybody should be doing the top of the show UK figures in the in the news world that would quite like to replicate it.

Do you think he is an interesting question and I thought so far we've seen much more of that in American media.

Notable examples in the UK but in I'm thinking of Washington that I know pretty well.

There are all sorts of smaller players both digital startups, but also people going solo and I'm saying as a former political who I knew well from Brussels that 10 years ago Tara palmeri.

Did a similar thing in recent weeks and and I do think that's quite interesting so far.

We haven't seen quite such a fragmentation in British Media their peers is it is a rare example.

I do think we're seeing similar trends in terms of broadcasters in podcasts or moving into different platforms, but really for me that's given by an audience.

So yes, there is this reaction and monks generous, but it's really because we all know that media habits are changing an every journalist and every broadcaster wants to get in front of listeners and readers and former relationship.

So I think yeah, it's it's interesting that wish.

To see that pattern here to the podcast Morgan quotes is good friends Gary Lineker as the model that he wants to emulate particularly the part where there's lots of us, just want to be a superstar himself.

He wanted to be like a Piers Morgan a food and Piers Morgan of Sport do you think he's got the ability to do that I mean what I say.

It's yeah.

He's a very effective self persistent.

I have no doubt that he can build the uncensored brand.

I do think the goal hang a model of pushing into other areas of expertise one that will probably see more of in the media environment and I think Piers Morgan has the ability to achieve that so you might be like I support uncensored or I don't know choose subject as you say food on censored.

I think it's really interesting that he's yeah.

He talks.

He's not the manosphere.

Right wing conservative successful Media ecology that's that's wrong up in America he talks about being much more impartial than that not taking sides and offering perspectives from all yo all walks of life and all parts of the political Arena and that is clearly got into the place where he is now.

He's got nearly 4 million subscriber YouTube just over a billion views.

Yeah, I think he's done really well to build and salvage that channel out the wreckage that was talk.tv someone have recently and it's a bit of a difference between him working for someone else and now him working for himself and the person was telling me that they couldn't get him to do certain amount of the live Leeds when it was home by news now.

He's more than happy to do any libraries can if you have much money.

He'll get for them about becoming a business person and he was in quite a long interview.

What does semaphores media podcast which is Which is definitely worth a listen and listening in the Guardian PS4 with quoted I think he's looking for to race and money to grow his business.

I'm in case there's some interesting thing of journalists presenters wanting to become entrepreneurs.

They do really want to own the fruits of their labour.

Don't they yes.

Well.

I think once you've seen others do it.

There is definitely dad Instinct amongst all of us right is there a world in which I could build this myself of course we know it to go building a media brand is a incredibly exciting challenge, but it's a pretty hard labour times and getting something off the ground from scratch.

It is it is a tricky thing.

I also think there is a difference between building a publication on a brand innocence and people who are really branching out into being influencers in their own right.

They are the brands that is a different relationship with with your audience.

Grappling with how that fits alongside some of the core principles of journalism objectivity and impartiality Dan is that is a challenge that that I think some of these characters who were trying to make them so phantom centre will have to grapple with interestingly with the Gary Lineker example in the goalhanger podcasts and some of the most successful ones, that's not a Gary Lineker you very much is the businessman and then I think one of the questions for peers is Kevin managed at it if it's about him and he is really this the brand itself.

That's different to having him and somewhat more behind-the-scenes and can he get that combination right obviously somebody like Gary Lineker appears to be able to be both the frontman and and not but that is that is not to you and I think when you have to wrap up with a bit then if you're in pairs of shoes to manager not striker might be slightly challenging for him to cope with deadline reports.

The BBC employ is have been the subject of upheld sexual harassment complaint are off and keeping their jobs Jake tell us about your sleep well, so we wrote last week about how BBC employees who have had sexual harassment cases are held against them continue to maintain their jobs at the BBC this was a based on a freedom of information request so I think there was five upheld cases over the past 3 years and only one employee lost their job, so you've got individuals working on BBC who the BBC believe that there is reasonable grounds and credible accusations of sexual harassment who continue to work at The Corporation and that last week knowing that this week.

There was going to be a big review into the BBC's workplace culture been published which was out on Monday you'll be

They're being a slight sense of déjà.

Vu the BBC was keen to emphasise the fact that change Associates which was the external organisation that looked into its workplace culture down that there was no a toxic environment for employees but the work could be done to improve awareness and trust in and BBC processes when it comes to dealing with wrongdoing I think the thing I keep coming back to you on this is that the BBC's restarick doesn't quite match reality we have this week from the BBC chair, so he was completely unequivocal in what he said he said abuse of power or punching down or Behaving Badly there is no place for that and the report itself points to this kind of language it I can read you something says that the BBC state has zero tolerance for unacceptable behaviour, but the words do not align.

Play Big spirits of a number of people who lived and worked at The Corporation some of those who have exhibited unacceptable behaviour continued to thrive and in some cases are promoted at Wylam going or grievances have been upheld against them and obviously that comes back to the reporting that we mentioned earlier it also chimes with some of the reporting of done on BBC Breakfast Richard frediani.

I've spoken to more than 20 people who have raised a bullying and misconduct allegations against him one of which was a woman who had an upheld complaint last year after she alleges that frediani physically shook her a drink a Newsroom exchange weeks after that complaint was closed Richard frediani.

Power is increased BBC and he was handed the news at 1 in addition to his breakfast responsibilities.

We've got a combination of asshole bosses and are sold Talent the not dealt with that the right way is the BBC How to a higher standard or is it with the same problems that similar sized organisations have so I think both things are true.

I think they're industry-wide issues here and I think you've seen that with some of the other notable television personalities have been in the public in recent months including Gino D'Acampo and Gregg Wallace who both of whom have done work for other broadcasters, but also I do think that the BBC is held to high standards, and I think Riley so is the national broadcaster is in receipt of billions of pounds of public money and therefore it should be creating best-in-class conditions for its employees.

The number of these issues or is it just something that's that's but while covered I would say we have covered this challenge a lot within the UK Parliament to write me something that shows up in politics as well.

We've had lots of corporate examples of it as well.

So I think unfortunately this is something that those running large organisations or organisations are dealing with all the time or hopefully not all the time but have to deal with from time to time.

I don't know really but I think it's incredibly important reporting but I feel like all parts of public Life and business life should be held to a high standard on this front and this kind of reporting is very important.

Wherever it shows up, but sadly.

I think it is certainly a problem in media and certainly probably on media to awards on Sunday

The movie club was there and speak to the makers of inside number 9 taskmaster and first last year's biggest hits baby reindeer this is right a Richard Gadd televisual when I even on stages of one man monologue had a kind of struggling central character.

I suppose it myself and I thought it had more suspense for muscle pain, but I did think compared to my previous shows which one is televisual E trance-like from the fringe and down to London and television, can we start to be interested in broadcaster start of interesting? I did actually have very clear idea of what it would be posted this but so we need a television.

I did feel it felt like it was it was a natural stepping stone.

What my sweetie give to them if they're on that sort of massive massive journey having a simple basic disabled like hard work and perseverance come here like anything, but you know I really sweat it out.

I really felt like I said the hours in I made a huge sacrifices in life in order to to sort of achieve my sort of goals but I think the most important thing is to stay true to what you can I want to write.

I think that's a lot of people specially for the celebrations in a flux period of Mormon offensive quite challenging but they trying to sort of right because I think that may increase the chances we stayed loyal to what I wanted to write and I think it's long as you stay truthful to what you want to write.

I think I think things will happen because I think it was a voice thing.

I want is something to say but ultimately is perseverance.

It is working his sacrifice.

You know when I think I think I think people don't realise how much sacrifice you have to make a half man.

Very very soon actually and so but it's been a lovely little break.

I'm back up as up tonight.

Thank you so much for a special award with the makers of Eastenders I cut up with his head of genre Kate Oakes and showrunner Ben wait.

What were the live episode and the big anniversary week, but it's always a busy time when you make that we do plus all the train that were talking about kind of bringing people on in their careers, but ultimately just making the best drama we can bring the best storytellers that we can be it's another quiet and Albert Square on the TV what is change due to over 40 years and how people consume television so EastEnders drops in the morning now doesn't come watch it different times.

We've got Flash forwards as a ghost behind me that was maybe this is this year keep up with the times and keep changing.

Loyal audience for keeping and coming back on their toes and Anita back for the celebrations been amazing and that's part of the challenge Roth and exciting stuff coming up to keep my Spotify all considering series and soaps is it takes people about 2 people and particularly people who are starting their careers and often, can you show like Eastenders you know you have got four episodes to make every single week.

We are always in production.

There wasn't time to snooze and if something goes wrong.

If someone or something goes wrong with the storyline.

We've got a fix it very quickly.

We're very adept at thinking on our feet and I just think that's on the best things about it if you come out of working on the soap opera if you cannot work on EastEnders you can work anywhere in the industry, and we're really proud of him to stay because I love it that much.

I love how busy it is and I love her.

I love the postman.

So yeah, it's it's a joy returning characters Cindy beales returning back back once again into that a challenge to think that was going to think about what's coming up in the future balances looking back and looking forward to what we've got coming up really allowances to maybe have a couple of things.

Thanks very much.

Thanks so much.

Thank you Andy and TaskMaster congratulations on your win, but thank you very much 10 years of TaskMaster you really lucky because we work on a show that we love doing it's a small team, but we we enjoy what you doing.

Hope you enjoy and make people laugh and we love doing what we doing.

It's like if this is magical for me is it just feels like 100.

It's a load of funny people doing funny things with three straight forward.

I made a film with Alex couple of years before when he was doing the Edinburgh show he's a comedy genius.

He should be on telly and he had a great idea.

We got away with over 10-years making something it's lovely so.

It's about people about how people react and how people behave we have a great team that makes everything different and distinctive but it's really lucky that we are able to only work with lovely people get great people along who actually make you laugh and and find new ways of doing things in each each.

Series is a new cocktail of different characters.

It's like a sitcom.

It's not it's not so how would you do if you were faced with these tasks towards 9series of inside number 9 the movie like to carry on making more episodes of the end of a project.

Well, look back in years to come and think why did we talk to you wanted it and we said no but it was poetic to end of series now after never knowing completely know you do want you waiting here and then it was commission again and again and I had for 10-years so we were very happy to arrive at a nice conclusion and not feel like our bar.

It's we've set ourselves as so good good.

We start also because if we if we had carried out.

We might not have got this people want things which very very similar channels on streamers with you better to jump into the world.

Style of television that was hugely popular that's great fantastic series telling it's Twilight Zone all these great shows that we loved his kids and watch and would enjoy the half hour kick in of a little short story and so that is in response to the hours and hours of the same thing for 20 series and how he gets good.

Sorry.

I'm not going how is left in.

My life is a lovely thing to go to watch and I think in this world of a slightly shorter attention spans someone send you a clip in a minute and a half so I think we've we've hit something where people are appealing to watch and dip in and watch thing so maybe you maybe they should do it harder to do you say it's not an easy thing because there's so much more thought you're writing new stories every week, so it's like a pilot every way.

I think of it as we've written 55 pilots.

The first episode of anything anyone will tell you right as well.

It is the difficult one is the one where you set everything up and then the characters and you're not doing that anymore but this for US gallons to each week, write a new thing set everybody up and and keep you grips to a new story every exciting to take it to the stage we both started at careers in the theatre, and we wanted to make sure the show went out again.

We didn't want anything for the TV show but this is an Ending but we thought we got a Victorian the ultimate Smith and they're ok when we return why the new towns Atletico are building from podcast.

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Club.com that's the media club.com and Jake are still with me Kate it's been 10 years since politico launched in Europe So staff of 60 in London 250 in total was brexit actually a big cause of your success.

Are you the brexit dividend? I think it's the accelerated our plan to launch in the UK there is always a plan in the sort of distant Horizon when we don't stay in Brussels I went to Brussels in in 2015 as part of that early crew.

Not quite at the Beginning about 6-months later and was based in Brussels for the first couple of years of blisco Europe's life and there was always an aspiration to build this thing the on the parcels.

We wanted to test first and foremost whether this model a new way of doing political journalism.

They didn't originated in DC could work in Europe we proved pretty conclusively pretty quickly that it could work in Brussels and then.

We would take it be on Brussels brexit suddenly accelerated the timeline in the UK because all of Westminster was reading about Europe so ironically Justice Britain was starting to renegotiate.

Its relationship will remember day with Cameron having long summit in Brussels through the night trying to renegotiate Britain's relationship with Europe before the referendum through that period suddenly group of van 20-30-47 Brussels were real competitive advantage for our coverage against domestic British competitors who typically had a Bureau of you know 50 most so suddenly almost accidentally we found we grew this huge audience in the UK and so that near-term on the horizon plan accelerated up the agenda and I found myself pitching to launch, London PlayBook much quicker than anticipated.

So yes in away brexit was certainly the story that notice in Britain and lots of our coverage.

Number for the first 4 years of our life a lot of success in connection to newsletters for for politico in different in different places, I was in quite a lot on the show people going off to substack new media operations starting with newsletters.

What is it about good old-fashioned email the Remains an important part of what you do, isn't it? Because we were talking earlier about people predicted the death of newspapers.

I think they have certainly also predicted the death Eaters wear as we have found newsletters remain a very effective way to reach people.

I think all of us still start our day and open our inbox it may not be the very first thing we do is probably the second or third for most of us and we've had two recent surveys now in the UK that morning newsletter, London PlayBook is the most read and mum's British MPs is a very.

For medium for reaching people in any kind of professional context that will be on that too.

So yeah, we very much believe in newsletters.

They started because we found them beautiful playback and EC was originally a memo for our internal editor-in-chief and you know top editors in in Washington to keep them up to speed with what was happening in 2007 when political was just getting started.

They found it so useful and found so many of their sources wanted to be added to the list that it bread a political newsletter that much more forward-looking and reported and informative than anything that is existed before and we really took that recipe to Brussels in 2015 and then to London in 2017 and found it works very similar here if you can tell people something very useful and write it in a way that is entertaining and pleasant to read at 7 a.m.

In the morning for no the drag.

That's a pretty.

Interesting combination and pretty captivating interesting combination of content and audience I mean from the business side.

It's who reads it what's in it absolutely the valley really for us to reach a very clear target audience people with a professional steak and politics and find the best way to reach.

We're not sort of ideologically committed to newsletters.

We just know that that's how are readers reading in the morning and that's a format that they find very useful they also increasingly listen to podcasts come to our website.

You know we are cross-platform in that sense, but really guided by how we can build that sort of intimate connection with the readership and I think newsletters do do that very effective you feel like it's a letter from a friend somehow in a way that some other formats don't quite give you that same intimacy and then of course for our sponsors.

They're really interested in who were reaching.

So the to go hand-in-hand, but I think that focus on how do you reach a very clearly defined target audience that has that has driven our growth absolutely links in a newsletter, but there's definitely an editorial voice.

There's personality in there too.

That's quite hard balanced.

Jack to move from London to the US and obviously he has he has a voice that readers getting used to it slightly different from from what went before I set off balance the top circle to square the magic of play broken one of the reasons.

I'm so excited about Jack going to DC as I really think he understands how PlayBook works better than almost anyone we built London PlayBook together, so I've worked with him on this question really for the best part of a decade.

I think playvig really works when it is genuinely useful for people and it's pleasant to read but you have to get them all.

Not order if playback isn't giving you that cross the Waterfront information.

That's going to set up your day then.

It isn't compelling enough and useful enough to be a must read it might be some you enjoy if it was more of an take or an opinion lead sing it might be something you find informative, but it's not going to be a must read in that really compelling urgent sense and of course the voice is important your reading at 7 in the morning.

Nobody wants it to feel as our editor-in-chief likes to say like oatmeal we would say like porridge.

Nobody wants at 7 in the morning.

We try and make it fun and lively and you know full of of intriguing inside gossip and things that people find addictive but really if it doesn't have the useful information.

That's going to see your day, then.

It's not going to work as a PlayBook and Jack knows that better than anyone so he wants to be in front of politicians and put up their stands or abroad.

Play from the party conferences, but you're going this year.

There's a pub on the way.

There is a pub on the way.

Yes, we we built a grill with CNN at the conventions in the US last partnered together with them to produce the space that was both a restaurant and had a stage 4 talk about politics.

So what sort of everything we love to do talk about politics talk to interesting people bring people together that works incredibly well at the conventions.

We took the same model to the Munich security conference bit of a different crowd though.

There was a pub and that became a real draw for for that audience and we felt like Brits would love this too.

So we're going to Party Conference we going to build our own pub and use it as being in space as I said for all the things we enjoy most well.

There's just enough time to have a drink some messages.

I will be back with the movie quiz.

Just enough time for the media quiz.

Let's see how much I get to been paying attention to the media news this week.

What's the title? Look what you could have that's what we're playing this week only three stories involving a company with its eye on a big prize reveal the prize apparently with some game show swagger a you.

Tell me who's in line to win it.

It's a best of 3 so you can buzzing with the name if you know the answer so Jake you will say Jake and case you'll say Kate let's play look what you could have won again question number one.

Is this true William PSB can play with fully functional studio arm and Legacy broadcast business Jake Jake I'm guessing what you could have won.

ITV is that the answer that is the answer or what's happening? We don't know is the honest truth because no one confirmed anything officially and ITV consistently No comments this but is very clear that it is courting sale at conversations at the big consistent over the last few weeks and months has been all3media which is backed by a red bird.

I am I which also owns the Telegraph someone controversially for the moment the the reporting and my understanding is that this is true? Is that that they've been locked in conversations to buy either all of ITV or just the production are ITV Studios and then this week the Financial Times reported that banijay?

Massive French production outfits make shows including Peaky Blinders and Masterchef they are also circling ITV similar way to the channels to I mean this deal from what I can make out of all sorts of different configurations and I do think if a red bird.

I am I an all3media in merge as the preferred bidder then that will raise all sorts of foreign ownership questions and it may be that just flogging them the production arm is much more possible than my own play Public Service Broadcasting

Play by us sculptor Mitzi cunliffe Kate Kate so what you could have won a BAFTA who won call Baxter what is on the line to win a special BAFTA Mr Bates the post office saying that they haven't won one of the awards in the main event.

I must say so I'm sure there are there competing in best limited series and I mean it's gone to baby reindeer that prize.

I I would imagine I've got enough on the shelf.

They've done them pretty well.

Also I think every postmasters now been to a TV Award Ceremony over over the last year ok question number three luxury coastal resort in Scotland this premier attraction has plenty of activity.

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