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BBC sounds music Radio podcasts, what maybe another very hot or very wet we've had a lot in the news this week having to get used to a new normal of extreme heat, so I'll be taking a look at how climate change should be reflected in our weather bulletin some Jackson controller Radio 3 basking in the warmth of winning station of the Year increase listening and getting a new DAB station, but he's been killing off in a studio as I put your questions and in the summer of Sport to amateur footballer centre of ox box and give us their views on BBC radio coverage of the euros know the reason weather has gone well beyond being a talking point in conversation and many of you have contacted feedback recently about the language used in weather balloons.

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Surely some Tring in Hertfordshire in the light of climate change are dry spring for 70 years and many parts of the UK is the time for the weather forecast in to change brownfields and Gardens and listening to the Today programme I noticed that despite all of this the referred to as a risk presenters continue to react with bleach to yet another hot and dry out look there's no rain only exist to spoil barbecues and is not right of resources without which no living thing can survive in a few minutes.

I'll be talking to BBC Leeds weather presenter and meteorologist Simon King to address some of those cancer and your questions but I also want to hear his views on the story that led the news on Monday the 14th of July BBC News at 9 the energy secretary.

Met office report that sound extreme heat to be the New Normal in the UK is a Stark warning sign is here with me know Simon welcome back to feedback at the news on Monday I'm sure Kim was absolutely no surprise to you, but I wonder if I significant it is in marking a real change in the weather patterns.

Yeah, it was an important reports.

I said something that myself and my colleagues across BBC Weather have been studying for many many years has something that we're well used to Reading and knowing about and it was in the BBC covered the report in such the detail that it did because it is really important than the weather does effect unless it's a national conversation of course but it's when the weather becomes more extreme and we get these heat waves.

We get bloody of flash flooding of storm is coming in that is when it is up to us at the weather centre to make sure that we can put some of this.

Context of the broader climate know we heard from Jane Shirley asking when the language of weather forecast in is going to change feedback with similar concern my name is Raj try and I live in West London I frequently observed in the recent past and even today that high temperatures are often referred to by BBC presenter says coat and good pleasant the BBC would do well to remember that there are several people find temperatures about 25 degrees Celsius uncomfortably hot so please stop referring as president before the one used on Radio 4 yesterday.

He said that the weather was beautiful and perfect he repeated the word beautiful twice.

This is a judgement.

Effects or even a prediction not everyone's eggs, hot sunny days are beautiful or perfect in fact a lot of people are desperate for rain from you.

Just don't like hot weather and I could said about climate change so forecasters too.

Keen to paint the heat is a good thing that is a really really question now if it's a heatwave and we have had days of temperatures well above average unit above 25 degrees that want to listen to mention there then actually you find that many of us all classes will say things like it's another present day.

It's another glorious day because we are much more conscious about the fact that a prolonged heat wave can have them C-Max not only because of lack of water and round but obviously the health of occasions of a heatwave so we are very very conscious of that now sometimes we get the occasion wear the news.

Handing to us may say it's another lovely day Dorothy say they hearing in Salfords what's the weather looking like for the rest of the UK and obviously we can't help that happens to us, but I think you'll find it a lot of time.

We will refrain from using that sort of language.

Do you think you should be using more language that says they would like to stay out of the sun or welcoming the rating that kind of thing are we do want you to give context and most of us.

Enjoy a hearing weather forecasters explaining the weather to us.

We don't want competence but do you think that you should be more aware of the fact that many of us are no worries about climate change your absolutely again.

We are very concerned about that.

We have daily meetings to the editorial side of the forecast and what's been happening and what the forecast is looking like so in a looking ahead and might be coming down the road.

You know there's a balance isn't there so we?

Today programme for example getting 90 seconds that are a lot of time that we given by the Today programme now, you know you listen to me know that sometimes that gets cut so we get a shorter time frame between delivering.

What is the weather forecast? What is the day today usefulness of a weather forecast? Where is it going to rain? What are the temperatures like you know? What's a cloud doing and then also giving that little insight into climate doing it off the cuff, because another thing that people may not realise is actually we don't script a radio broadcast purely because that time Factor so on on How I go about that.

So I know roughly that got 90 seconds.

I know what areas I want to split the UK down into and I know the forecast for each of those areas and I'll make notes around that but then other than that.

It's completely ad-lib.

Just because of that point of not knowing exactly how much time you going to have so pleased you brought that up because I think many regular listeners to the day.

Sometimes you can hear that interview coming up to the weather over running and maybe we assume that you even you're throwing pages of script over your shoulder short time frame to tell us about the whole of the UK to get the forecast for the area now if I end up giving 30 seconds for example which is there.

It's that low but obviously I'm not going to be able to go into detail that I'd want to go into like happily.

Talk about the weather for 406 minutes and give a detailed forecast that system sometimes you get a cut and I do appreciate that sometimes not all parts of the United Kingdom may be covered in the detail that I'd necessarily wanted to be but I would also just saying evening a regular 90-second forecast what was trying to do is tell a story of the weather of the day and highlights I guess.

Pictures of the weather the weather that may impact certain areas that it might mean that on occasion.

I might have to go into more detail for Wales and south West England because that's where the weather is the north east of Scotland it might be fairly benign and atypical weather conditions.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time you not talking about that focusing on the stuff that really matters Simon your passion for weather clearly cross there.

Thank you very much indeed for giving us your insights there Simon King BBC weather presenter and meteorologist and we have received a few comments on the duration of forecasts and shorter unused programs like today and if I get someone on from the editorial team.

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You can't force you can't rewind the way you can on BBC signs there will be some functionality differences and I'm sorry that people will be disappointed that look and it's bittersweet for me because I'm proud of what they sounds product has developed into my name is I live in Paris France I have listen very carefully several times to interview with Mr walk-in something about functionalities functionalities is life and that's it.

This is Switzerland the content will all be there or bbc.com but with some loss of functionality.

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Hi that switch off impact you well Sam Jackson controller of radio 3 is here with me now in the feedback studio Sam it's good to have you back and since we last spoke you have one station of the year for Radio 3 at the areas and Radio 3 has the best audience figures in a decade at a time when most stations are losing this.

Even my gas last week.

Lyse doucet has said that she finds a Radio 3 a sanctuary these days.

I wonder some does all that feel like a vindication because you will still have today a hard time from listeners here on feedback and music journalists accusing you of coming down turning Radio 3 until classic FM do you see this as proof that you are on the right track.

I think it's very hot then.

It's good to be back with you and thank you for having me on the program.

It's very hot name for us because it shows that listeners are spending more time with us and also join you people in I'm really pleased about is that the Quarter in question which was the highest quarter one in more than a decade for Radio 3 that was a quarter in which we had a European road trip 2 cities like Reykjavik cologne Paris we broadcast live from Auschwitz a remarkable breakfast programme with Petroc Trelawny to Mark Holocaust memorial Day we

Launch the series about 20th century modernists inspired by the centenary of the great coming as well, and I think when you deliver change that really hard because you have to take those listeners on a journey with you and so to be now here on from those changes middle more than a year on actually and to see how long people listening forward to see more people coming in it's a real encouragement to the team you have to live with change is project Jackson finished on Radio 3 or some more to come as always more that can be done with any radio network if you're about the audience.

We always have to look and say what does the audience want out, so what does the audience not yet? No, it was one of the great ideas coming to us from different suppliers both within the BBC and outside from India independent production companies.

I'm very aware at the same time that we have delivered a lot of change and it's important to me to have a period of stability we have to let programs.

So we're not planning huge amount of change, but we will always look and say where do we need to take things? Where do we need to improve the offer to the audience say that changes is ongoing most of the snooze I've got in touch.

I've been actually very happy with the new schedule and with the content but certainly not all this is prudence Jones from Cambridge it is difficult to find anything positive to say about the recent changes to Radio 3.

It's a great shame to have lost nightwave now free thinking to an earlier slot a different station only once a week despite its extension to a full are perhaps cuts and made it too expensive to run more often, but it is a loss replacement for free thinking airport lounge music from 10 p.m.

With the simpering commentary by it's unfortunate presenters is simply embarrassing.

Free was always serious music plus a selection of what used to be called highbrows speech programs and theatre, so why ruin Radio 3 Sam I know that we've address the loss of drama and programmes like three thinking before on this program, but it is still being felt by listeners.

Clearly you going for audience numbers instead of With Excellence not heard anywhere else whilst at the same time seeing that people are drawn in by that so I don't think it has to be one of the other I do think we have shown that you can do the two independent from Bristol Radio 3 has been incredibly important to me since you turn me onto classical music 60 years ago.

I'll try to explain what is literally and

Turning me off that was the second movement of how I hate this sentence.

I suppose I can blame classic FM all I'm not actually listened to it, but turning music into 4 minutes snippets like radio one.

I've recently come across three Beethoven's piano sonatas being booked in this way first movements of opus 101 the v sign what barbarism is this it's like Kenneth Clarke saying that was the bottom left hand corner of the Mona Lisa stay tuned for a little bit after the single complete works in their full text we're speaking now the time when on Radio 3 classical live is being broadcast that full-length concert recordings from across the UK and Europe and within that that program you.

Sometimes pieces that lasts for an hour we also acknowledge though generally speaking and it is a generalisation, but generally speaking at breakfast time for example most people do not have the time or the inclination to listen to on in time on a symphony.

They would like to hear a range of music now what we mustn't be doing is playing endless music that you can hear elsewhere.

So you know I appreciate the comment and the position of all comes from music that you can hear elsewhere musical theatre, Friday night is music night doesn't really have place on Radio 3 landgraab for the O2 I think it does and I feel very strongly about this actually when I came into the BBC I could see that there were certain genre of music that we as a corporation.

We weren't doing enough to support Radio 2 musicals pages absolutely wonderful and her programme on a Sunday lunch time is great, but Friday night is music night had actually stopped on Radio 2 it wasn't it?

Straight from 2 to 3 that was the programme that was no longer on that station and Jazz is another example for me.

It was on repair musical genre that was not being champion to the extent that I felt it and there's also music if you look at Friday night is music night.

There's the whole tradition of light music in Eric Coates Dambusters March works like that a little bit on fashionable for some and I think that can fall between two stools.

It's too old for the present Radio 2.

It wasn't felt to be quite right for Radio 3 and I think we at the BBC need to make sure that all genres of music are the fans of that music have an opportunity to to enjoy what we have to offer one type of music that's certainly getting plenty of our play is calm mindful music is Karen Chettle my name for the Script ultimate.com is ultimate toss music is ok.

It's the over-the-top descriptions which I find Ludacris the music.

Describe something like full of kindness kindness this phone is string about a slightly less equally cringey and all this in the sound sexy voice possibly contributes to the observed tell me you've got ultimate.com as well as a whole new station of car music and Radio 3 unwind Linda little bit too much.

There's some listeners think I think the Telegraph called at the therapy of classical music.

I wonder are you guilty of that isn't even something to be guilty or I don't think we are interesting that piece in The Telegraph by Ivan Hewett I remember reading that my first door tonight.

It's very good writer and classical music but my first thought was but I did this isn't for you.

You are a Radio 3 listen through and through you like what we already.

Do this is about catering to a different audience and I think ultimate.com is a really interesting case in point.

I think it's for me about everything in moderation.

Doing too much of anyone style of music but we also need to acknowledge that for many many people and we have discussed this before I miss programme Andrea music that is particularly restful helps you relax away from the Madness that can be a powerful route into classical music for a lot of people night trails Sam I have tried to address this before with you, Peterborough croton to tell me that I didn't do good enough over the years my music for trailers has become so great but even when an hour is too many presenters off and tell us about Force rescue study programs that have been aired recently and an hour on sounds in a result is interesting and engaging because it's nice trailers formulate and increasingly relying on repetition.

They offer nothing that isn't better done by live presenters.

Some you would make so many of our

Happy if you just tell me right now that you were cutting the trails were absolutely not and I prefer round Lee disagree.

I'll be really honest with a profoundly disagree with with that argument.

I'm I respect it, but I think the wrong and I'll explain why we have seen in the last year the highest amount of listening to Radio 3 than ever before and I believe that part of the reason for that is that we have told listen about what we broadcast so yes absolutely we can have a presenter verbal mention of something someone will take notice of that but others may not so this week for example.

We trail running for the First Night of the Proms is voiced by Petroc Trelawny and understanding Radio 3 presenter when petrol preferences the Hebrides overture.

We hear a clip a very short clip and very recognisable of that famous piece of classical music some listeners will instantly recognise that in a way that they may not know if we simply said petrol said the Hebrides overture is on that means something to us.

People but I think it will be added as me to presume that every listener instantly knows what that means so we again.

It's about moderation 30 seconds in any one hour.

I do not believe his over-the-top.

So the trails are staying got it.

Well.

I had a long chat with Sam so we decided to bring you part 2 next week or Sam Jackson answer some tough questions about this year's Proms talks about the use of social media and YouTube to grow audiences and his wider role to promote classical music and Culture to education England women through to the knockouts euros and whales having made into a major tournament for the first time women's football is once more having a moment to of England star players and Alessia Russo have been joined by Radio 1 presenter Vick hope for the TV and we wanted to find out what players from a grassroots women's football team.

Build-up on BBC Radio and the coverage of England's first match against France featuring The Five Live commentators Vicki Sparks and Izzy Christiansen and Sean and my name is Adam and I am a filmmaker and a theatre maker and I play for the Deptford ravens, and I also made a short film about football called back of the civil liberties lawyer and a also play for the Dartford and welcome to the I'm here with two of footballs most famous friends Alessia Russo episodes of the toonie and what did you think about them Siobhan frankly speaking I really did not enjoy the program.

It was a real hard listen.

For a number of reasons the chit-chat sections were quite dry.

They weren't very funny or entertaining anecdotes which obviously it doesn't need to be back.

It's a bit like a hard lesson offer go off the train a skip in my step walk over to the the car park.

Where are know that I left my car you could tell I didn't mention that they're not very good at small talk like you could really feel that they hadn't been warmed up.

What's a weird food combo that you love I don't really have any I actually was enjoying but for the most part, but I must admit there were moments where my attention definitely wondered the hugest age.

How do you cope with that? I don't think we think about it.

I mean yeah, did the last episode of the toonie Andrew social make you excited for the Eurostar tick I mean.

Not particularly, because I didn't really enjoy the show but it's really interesting hearing professionals.

Speak about something that you're interested in and like they're points that you know when they talk about how they need time to unwind or when they're talking about training things like that like it makes you think a lot about kind of your own involvement in the sport.

I thought that the commentary on 5 live the France and England Euro's game was really high energy.

I really liked how snap it was they seem really passionate and really involved in the angle live commentary.

Visualise like where the ball was on the pitch.

I did find it a little bit tricky especially when the first goal was scored and so I believe kicked into the net might have been outside.

It's a good idea, but it was hard to follow exactly what had happened in some ways follower football game in the same way that might so I almost feel like if I listen to the radio more it would be a lot easier to train my ears almost to be able to kind of understand what's going on.

I thought that they both had the uplifting tone.

I felt really motivated listening to them.

I sort of felt like I wanted to get up and get involved almost just from hearing their voices.

Find the general coverage about the women's football on radio actually really great.

Yeah, it's just made me really excited in a way that I hadn't really expected it.

Thanks to Sean and Ella for your thoughts on the BBC audio coverage of the euros and it's almost it for me, but before I go later on in the series.

I'm going to be talking to some of the team behind the Radio 4 drama serial Central Intelligence it's doors Kim Cattrall and it's about the early days of the CIA I'd love to hear your thoughts on it and this kind of immersive but for night for me and the team.

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