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Come on in hello to see you here and Miranda audio critic for the Observer most of the talk 90s to me podcast but you've added a second picture to your bow and it's for the Observer actually because I'm with little light fantastic broadcasting incredible person and is about culture to culture stories per week with a few little bits around and it's really fun actually it's really fun, but yeah, I'm very aware that this is a poacher Tesco

So obviously you lots of your membership is almost Goulding boss.

Who do you like to add to the club disco light to add? She's write a bit.

She's made an investigative podcast called the missing sister and her name is Charlie brinkhurst-cuff.

It's quite a difficult thing to do to make an investigative podcast actually think it's almost impossible unless you have loads of money.

She did not have loads of money and she follows the story of a young woman called Joe Morgan who was murdered in late 2018.

She joined the kind of very unusual church.

It was a church member that had murdered her but she been her disappearance is not followed up for a really long time and Charlie does this incredible feat of not only covering the soil expect but kind of looking at the way that journalist go about covering the story and kind of unpacking the models around it and how you can if you do it and I think the thing is.

Amazing, but it's just very very low budget nobody here any money for it and I think it's a really good work.

Well.

She's very welcome to join the club.

Also here is Jane Austen EVP data Analytics company can welcome thank you who died out of the cold this week, is it cheating if I say it is a team of people say it's probably tylenol crisis.

Yes, I'm using their own product this week.

What was a proper crisis in a very kind of mature balla.com.cy about medical evidence putting up notices on their website that you see and there's been all sorts of memes and other things on social media, but I think given that it's a really rough week that they're having in terms of dealing with reputational matters and Miss information.

I think I've done a good job in kind of calmly fighting back.

The president of America ministration saying that particular pregnant women use Thailand people don't regard trump as a great source of medical advice post-covid.

Just saying the words over and over again like the I don't think so little don't take some there is a drip drip drip isn't exactly and you know for a company to deal with that kind of problem in the face of the actual president you no dissing your product.

It's really tough do wonderful I mean trump must get a headache pills arrive well at speaking restrictions interventions at Talk Show Host Jimmy Kimmel was back on the this week after suspension last week by ABC the US TV network owned by Disney Miranda these were a joke.

Around the time of Charlie Kirk death what has happened to him, so it's actually he made I mean I have to say not brilliant josea around death of Charlie Kirk and they were taken very badly by people on the right so badly that is essentially his show was pulled from air by Disney and that is a massive massive daily really is a big deal and these totally know he's won a very very important can talk show hosts that dominate American kind.

Of course.

I would say and to have that pulled just for a joke really does strike at the heart of something that Americans find you know I mean it's free.

Speak.

Obviously we can pass till the till the cows come home because it like the idea of free speech Trump is very Pro free speech except when they say something about him that he doesn't like my new note.

It's unbelievable but also is kinda about comedy and I do think that America takes comedy incredibly serious in a way that we don't really here.

Do you know and I think they are very seriously which is actually windy and the end up with the Talk Show Host most of them Kumbaya comedy comedy and they take the the the kind of privilege of making jokes about the news in Dudley seriously need to be removed really on on on the ideas quickly done as well, so I felt like it was very quickly done on the idea that that somebody might be offended you know it might be offended and like you could have waited but you waited for a while and see if it calm down after a week, but you didn't get the speed of it.

I thought was the most shocking thing about a syringe and this is all back to money.

Isn't it really this is the FCC waiting in.

Listing on a podcast UK and you know how threatening Ofcom with that situation, but yeah, it does come down to money it comes down to Disney comes down to the affiliate station that were running the show acquisitions that are in the pipeline and so you know it does turn out like everything is political even a misjudge comment on the Honor show times into a massive crisis and I think if you looked at his sort of Mayor Cooper you know 28-minute piece on the show a night or two ago you went through the whole range of emotions.

He talks about Jimmy Kimmel we talked about Christianity talk to his family he apologised but he also made the point that is kind of.

Authoritarian and not something you expect from the US so he said it was an American yeah, it was quite a 30-minute peace little did two segments of that you can watch on YouTube actually use this given him more of a happiness step does the end up being the sort of free speech Warwick as he's been cancelled for the week and magenta by various kind of actors and people in the media outside Disney and then there was a documentary that was being shown in La about Lilith fair and Sarah McLachlan was going to play you wouldn't play and basically people pulling their subscriptions like there was a kind of decision that had to be made and it's like the report so that was very very close.

They really nearly didn't.

But they did bring him back in the end and so therefore he really had to tread very very careful and I thought he did that very well before the needle he really did and she did get upset as you said and what the bits.

Are you got upset about was actually about Charlie Kirk dying which was a terrible terrible and about how his wife was in The Incredible thing that she said at the funeral.

She said she forgave the kids which is like absolutely brilliant.

I think it's a British person when you watch this looks like you know we do not have this here and when I watch the speech which I can absolutely great.

They make my toes curl absolutely UK and I just had to go to America and I think it's because there was a lot of talking his speech.

About can like Conservatives people also believe in free speech and he's very much on the left and he says I'm on the left and what happens in our country.

I think it's just take the mick out of everybody so it doesn't matter is Keir starmer Boris Johnson isn't it's nice for us.

We just take the piss out of me and in private.

I Have I Got News For You is absolutely you know that that is so that we can send we don't really have that we are on the left.

Show we have had a few but they've never lasted talk show that we've got the very good Graham Norton is amazing and also obviously asunder.

It's more about the personal lives of the people you get out of them.

You know you don't so choosing to share but emotion but I don't think we believe it.

I didn't believe it.

It's authentic and inauthentic to us because we would never do that.

Live by the ministration at number for post Floyd as well a lot of corporations of jumps on there and did what a lot of time is the right thing there's a lot of rowing back home for Disney as well like they should have stuck in the middle that they did quite a lot of Progressive things which I've talked about anymore and this isn't particularly aggressive even when I think it's really sad isn't if you think that Disney only makes you know I don't know certain cartoons also I think that this is good for the administration breaks my heart.

That's really really terrible and the best companies whatever their ethics are but they have it right the way through the company.

That's the point rather than just to say all we've got someone are deals might fall through with change your morals and values essential part of why they choosing products.

Yes, and no it depends on the products.

You know if a brand has some stated purpose and it's doing good weather is in its packaging on doing of the environment or doing good in society for some products.

That is super important and it is the reason people choose them for other brands.

It's not such a big deal, but doesn't work like if you think about like so Budweiser I'm working with Dylan I come and person I know but like you know that really don't know because it didn't match the Brand and I can't think of it matches the brand Disney to me is aspirational and should be busy.

I'm aware.

They do lots of things actually I think the cartoons like in the movies and so to me.

They are even though they should be kind of aspirating the four children.

They should be for everybody that should be about people Valley where to me when they're not typing on the values that has environmental sensitivity.

Can't do anything else and probably that does attract a lot of people there might be other Moss of household products like you know Yorkshire Tea or Marmite or something that you might not automatically assume it for different reasons and you associate with it for different reasons, so you know it's I think the media Brands yes whether consumers think about is to be decided but some of them that certainly they do have a strong opinions on 2.2 billion to the economy, but influences like many are still struggling to get on the property Ladder but now mps1 to help with a New Cross party parliamentary group tasked with looking online creators.

Not just a mortgage build this thing to this you think that mate.

Absolutely self-motivated and they create this amazing basically we have platforms whatever those platforms are and in this case we talking about kind of YouTube and tiktok and maybe Instagram and we have this platform.

What is a platform filled by people in creative and then these creative people turned around and they go to banks and then this morning.

I'm very sorry haven't got a payslip.

You can't have a mortgage and this is what all as freelancers hello even claim childcare as inexpensive as you know you remember being told by an accountant if you wanted to do that should really say that I had a pee looks like it's just this is just like it's literally a childminder when they're like that.

You can't come and get you a lot of kind of elements what they're saying that just makes me laugh like I'm

What freelancers have been through over 4 years? It's just it's not I think about the MPs have got excited because of the word influences influences and creators of really kind of come to the last of the 23 years cos like the sheer volume of the speaking to a big global brand the other day and just in the UK alone.

They have a network of 40000 creator right from you know vip's to Nano pick you because you know you're you're lying with a particular campaign and give you a task and off you go and do it is a creator and Unilever have recently announced.

They're going to spend over £50.

They'd marketing budget which is not a signature on creators as well, so it's definitely something that we see happening absolutely everywhere evening.

I'm likely affected.

It's not just kind of beauty and hair care.

So is turning into a a recognised profession but I think the industry does really need to grow up as well because of the example creators who are kind of doing something off brand or you know they kept that can be a bit risky or you know I don't know you know they get arrested or something like that part of my criminal.

So it's a really hot Topic and in our recent research.

We found as he 60 cm are planning to increase their spend on creators in the in the next year.

So it is a really big thing now.

It might be that as a topic in a media freelancers to band together and create a kind of a movement of something.

Yes, but there's a big ones there lots of people that full-time where is the creator and it's all little business.

It's easy to pull down.

That's the thing that I find very difficult but you know if you say you're looking you're I write for an English newspaper and like it like something probably gets checked it goes in I get paid is fine.

Yeah, that would be very very unlikely to go actually would not doing it is never going to do anything by me again and but that happens to very small created something happens to the algorithm and a drop will they get blocked for no reason and that seems to me to be really awful.

You know when you're building something up.

You're building your own little Brand and it's just you and then something happened to the algorithm in your

Little business and this is actually connected to the Research that that you've done this is this is media actions research reminders why you guys we are really interested in what real people think about media Brands and Media platform, so we cover everything from Instagram tiktok Snapchat Pinterest Disney plus that sort of thing right through to local media Brands in 30 markets and we asked over 20000 consumers what they think about the ads and the atom bomb at the ad formats on most platforms and we also have marketers around the world the same thing and Discover there's often a bit of a mismatch between one real people think so.

Marques love you know YouTube Instagram you know as kind of global and platforms consumers actually prefer that they do like tiktok and they like twitch and Amazon advertising but we also found quite a lot of interesting findings about media channels themselves at the cinema in TV allowed home and use a lot of talk about TV this week 70th anniversary the first TV ad in the UK and it is still the most trusted channel actually by market is but broadcast TV price in decline in terms of marketers intention to spend money next year but they're really increasing their spending on streaming connected TV platforms that you know love like Disney plus and Netflix advertising so the tv market continues to change a shift really really rapidly and then we also looked at creative as well so

About intentions to spend on creators really ramping up and the key thing for marketers is that I think at the moment.

They haven't really got the right balance between enthusiasm and excitement about using these new channels and measuring what the actual impact is I mean obviously I'll come from the data Analytics company, but you can't just kind of staff the money and hope for the best proof that it's working for your that's another area where the Creator economy needs to develop further and it's not because they can't measure it yet the creators and fans can't measure it yet.

It's the brands that are commissioning.

They should really be measuring it currently it's to do with ok.

You got that number followers and then there's engagement which is I don't like that now.

If you're offering you know like tiktok shop.

You can measure ok that resulted in those sale, so you've got some solid numbers there, but there's also like the brand impact of that great.

I did it change somebody's view about.

Did it makes somebody more likely to buy at those all things that can be researched but not all of the organisations who commissioning a measuring those things yet, they just saying oh, yeah we got lots of Reach of likes or something but that those aren't enough no no we won't proper measurement.

What sort of biggest gap between sort of what the market is think and what the consumers think is there a sort of missing jump on if we look at Channels Media channels in general people real people really like cinema in person events.

You know we're talking immersive environments and all that kind of stuff.

Where is marked as they still going health a letter on digital and online video but they are starting to do more in person events and experiences people like I think one of the biggest disparities is like you know paps the more.

The easier channels that marketers can use where you can reach a lot of people quite quickly like online video but people buying agency of buying and it's you know you spend a lot of money which lot of people in one go consumers do seem to want more immersive experiences, so we'll see more of those next you.

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It comes up to research off concrete you showing that YouTube with the second most what service in the UK last year and regular beat the BBC to sexy Lisa Nandy hasn't ruled out legislations of force platform to feature of the broadcasters programs and more prominently sky Studios has got the green light for expansion at Elstree for the second time of asking Avenue 65 Acre site were unable 2000iu jobs according to Sky can Marlow film studios in Buckinghamshire pull the same trick at the plane decision for them.

That is scheduled for 2 weeks time I am wondering.

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It's interesting soap opera singers obviously expanded absolutely loads in the in the last decade some very intelligent interesting stories that would tackled in cereal form.

Is it until it will be a series and that will be made this takes a long time.

It takes a lot of money.

What has happened over the last few years is it essentially post-covid celebrities are going to do that mate and those podcast are getting a lot of traction the podcast for instance that makes you that I'm making now those are the kind of book is actually also contributing to the death of these of these shows your fault.

It's my fault because they're cheaper to me what you know like.

Talk 90 to me in that is me tin to use somebody and about whatever the 90s was or like a particular kind of event in the 90s and then the other one for the Observer is me and live talking about something that particular kind of podcast is the one that everybody at the moment is concentrating on it's a two hander it at the moment.

It comes out once a week.

It is always on the term and it maybe it will go to 2 times a week the second one being for patreon supporters.

That is the car at the moment the way the most podcast can make them because it's cheaper to make an investigative series however, I will say as a podcast reviewer when people come up to me and they say what should I be listening to they are not saying that shows you know miss me they're not saying Ellis and John they're not saying did it that's not what I asked there after a really juicy true Crime they want a proper invoice.

Series and so I think that those series should be invested in because honestly that's what the plan is want we did like a part as part of our first episode.

We have no we look at true crime and true crime in terms of audience sure to let you know in the last five years is gone up 185% of listeners like it is enormous, so I might be going down but actually true Crime really it's going alright up in podcasting it just cost money in a place.

Where is hybrid of always on and investors short storytelling about something like red handed.

Do you know what I mean like it's a way of approaching true Crime I actually find them sometimes.

I have to say morally ambiguous because you're essentially telling a very spooky and horrible story that happens to.

True so in those shows you would say to me.

What about the story and I serve investigating the Strand hotel you and you would react and the difficulties that is it probably in the store if somebody died.

There is a Family Guy Finders much.

I love her hand in.

I really really write that show it's a great show that there is something a bit weird around that that volume limit to how much you can think about it before you record the next episode 2 funny because of the nature of the hosts and that they draw out of a five episodes descriptors very funny.

It's kind of very very well.

Thought I would actually to me still it's bedtime stories that all these ones are kind of Bedtime Stories really with your dual role of both audio critic and audio maker does it change the review on what you get sent now that you understand a bit more had a make them.

Me because I didn't know before because I've made radio.

It makes me irritated more quickly and I do listen to them.

It's horrible.

Obviously I hate my life that you know I'm OK that was bad.

You could have done that better.

You need to bring that up first.

You know you know how to hold your interests so come on work it and when I hear shows that don't do that.

I'm like come on.

It's not that hard.

You know just listen to the truth.

Yes, and you know I have said it.

I don't explain what they're doing.

I find that the change of to always on the volume in the needs to fill advertising spots how much how much easier to driven by the commercial imperatives vs.

The world.

That is the Conundrum I think is you know comes out in the research that we've just done and it's also Conundrum in terms of if you look at her advertising is kind of put out to the market and deploy now and there's there's always been a lot of chat about always on advertising digital networks allow you to do a&i.

You know exacerbates that you know because there's a lot of talk again about to the hyper targeting and hyper personalisation at scale and you know to content optimisation and already things it's like actually do we really want to be besieged by hyper personalised and targeted advertising like tons of times a day let you know it says can you put on online and this is actually we find that you don't like environments where there are bombarded with.

Saturations of advertising there like a bit of light touch and they like to be entertained, but they don't want loads of advertising Trust at them so I think there's a really careful balance to be struck between the imperative that publishes have but also the tolerance that people have otherwise you know but that's how you know many publishers make their sole source of advertising so they have to take it seriously another chat about what I can do to the advertising and the targeting and that's fine printer on Coronation Street Preachers 3 million people like it's not 10 million.

Is it used to be but we want a fizzy water that's what we want to hear this is why is Super Bowl in the US is still hyper popular? You know they can charge absolute premium prices for the for the spots there.

You know there are fewer and fewer of those.

Television now, but you know this definitely something in the notion of mass reach events that lots of people watch and can chat about and that's the same for advertising as well.

You know the kind of advertising if I asked you what I do remember.

You might tell me something but it's pretty in most conversations.

I have it's something from like 1985 advertisers and marketers are really struggling with this issue.

Which is like you need to be famous on a maths level you know brands aren't going to always be built by lots of little things you have to have big things as well.

That's happened at the Observer extricated from the Guardians myths that you've been going to be the Crosby move with them.

I have lived with the process.

Product seems pretty good that they're putting out who I am freelance contract contract at any point but I went over and I'm very happy.

I did and the reason why I'm happy actually at the moment is that there was always a sentence with the Observer that you went adjunct to the Guardian for a long long time and I think that was actually part of the reason why people help very very upset when it was sold because it was a bit like a we knew you never liked it and it was very very very difficult we move tortoise notices and obviously a very different companies podcast company but the thing that I noticed because I've been to the Observer so long is it is populated by a lot younger people like that when you go into the environment absolutely.

Keen really bright like a selection of people there a very excited that they've got a newspaper to play with it and that I find actually really really inspiring there an amazing podcast into the division which I feel very privileged to be asked to make a show for but there's an optimism around it now actually and I kind of you know I have to say I fuck you and I'm sorry if I can say that there is a bit of a marketing.

There was no separate marketing absolutely the marketing budget was 0 so now we have our own marketing.

You can do things with that you can you can play with that you can you can do all the try and bring people in because it's a unique product.

It is not just the first part of the Guardian business.

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No, they didn't brush leave the product the product is likely in spying for the newspaper.

You know I mean I'm not sitting still believe in print, but that you know there is a sense that this is dwindling.

You need to have to be able to look to online and see how you can what you can do that.

Ok, let's return to our travelogue much like the battlefields.

You can see around me and newspapers now fight over territory not with bayonets, but with bylines not with trenches, but with eyeballs clicks and pivots to video and yet is 321 Souls meet their end 100 vs.

Miranda company that owns the mirror and the star and the weather in other important newspapers is sucking lots and lots and you know I would say the reason why there sucking them.

It's because they're on.

It's so terrible and it has put loads of people off like you know.

I am obviously you know I used to host a podcast about newspapers.

I love the mirror particularly.

Love the Star at offer and the online portal for those is the terrible and so course nobody is using them, so which means in the end you using you lose money and you lose journalist.

How will they ever 600 Genesis risk of redundancy and potential trouble there might be some strikes.

I think it reach reach titles private.

I reported this week that the monks those he could go there is only dedicated investigative reporter and there's a point.

Paper and they had a section in the middle like a kind of magazine area and that was for the middle so I went into the mirror and it was a very lively an interesting place.

It's a great newspaper and you know you know obviously I understand that people have had have all sorts of problems with tabloid newspapers.

That is a left wing newspaper that has done amazing things and still has amazing report is well, and I find it tragic that they've been treated like this actually nothing is a lot of the management of those paper open bought together so historic.ly the mirror and the star and the Express you know you wouldn't want to be on the same floor as that was super super battle weakening the brand value.

They have or actually is the cash savings that way that that lots of industries by the way is happening in the kind of Media agency environment.

All the back office functions can buy new hr and finance and all that sort of stuff and then you know the front facing brands kind of exist mainly as a bit of a shell of what they used to I think the job certainly is you know to drive some kind of efficiencies and my understanding is that also the combining other kind of capabilities like video production or you know I'm a bit of regional kind of expertise but actually a lot of a lot of what used to be regional hubs a bit like a radio is now be centralised.

I guess reporting in that way does a mirror Portrush different from an Express report to explain fundamentally different in a digital world like when you buy a physical paper vs.

If you're a moth fly even if you look at you know if you look at the online offer of say the Telegraph the Times the mail or him.

You know kind of like broadly right way, they completely different personalities.

They know what they're doing with and told to say that you can manage and the expresses online offer and the mirrors online over the stars on my offer is just like you know it's all the same stuff as a disrespect to the newspaper and the online offer right back to a Travelodge from one last time.

It's journalism is extreme sport harness to speak of leadership 6 on the pressure on Ticket doing an interview in Bournemouth reminded me of a few years like 2012 was that when Boris Johnson got this image imprinted in my mind tightly crop farmers.

It's just an example of an experiential.

Map before a Rollercoaster by treatment and an angle everything we wouldn't know a Davy if you hadn't done his stunts actually.

I think especially post the collapse of your party, then I think that lot of young people are turning to the greens and the Lib Dems and I think he might as well be interviewing that way related interview very easily travel sick.

I would not got me to Gordon Brown one time which is absolutely fantastic and I was so excited.

It was just at the point where he was coming up to be elected again and he didn't but anyway did the interview by

Play copper in a field and an eagle and helicopter and flew away and enough going investigate turning the media club into a travelbase podcast I think we've sold the concert now.

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