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It would be by my count for daily newspapers to Sundays as well before daily newspapers is twice as many as Rupert Murdoch own the daily will be the Daily Mail they'll be the Daily Telegraph the Metro course which is normally I'm sure the monkey and the I newspaper forgets but the email group.

I don't impress when I went bankrupt 3 years ago were always in there is plenty option, but it's a historical people have gone on our competition problems that never be able to have it but the way the government is at the they might be quite pro argument possibly in the government and in The Telegraph office and Met Office settle in private offices forgot.

Just over with original stop worrying about it and we seem to be going over going on since up some point in the palaeolithic period now but the competition issue is a very different wonder what it was when is trouble monopolies and mergers commission as was back in the 80s because you know the newspaper market segmented.

I mean the sheriff printing newspapers is sort of almost irrelevant now.

I mean newspapers global businesses now in certain cases in presence in American a specifically said in there, then that's about it dmgt said that they're looking to expand the Telegraph in America as well.

That's why they

See the market going to be sensible thing as the Telegraph Inn in recent years gone very very Maga so that would seem to be sensible editorially I'm in the real issue with this is more money coming from because he's wearing the running early on in this stage if you could cost you money back to to about 3 upsets in in the sale ago the problem was when red bird I am I was the fund which was on about by the United Arab Emirates government the law was changed so the nose initially no state money would be allowed sovereign Wealth fund money will be allowed to take out the British Media at that point load on the most he was out because he been having discussions about raising money to buy the Telegraph at that point with a Middle Eastern guitar live certainly talking to you.

I think I probably probably as well now.

However, he seems to be saying he's way you specifically said in in the statement about the the new deal that there will be no no no money from any kind of foreign regimes also.

Thunderbolt at all so the question remains, where is money come from for the price as well to be offering a full 500 million which was paid by that I am I which has been a growing in recent weeks is easy Nova overvaluation the company.

I don't know I've got some description to it after we all newspapers for my job on 30th private.

I was another person who's in the running and he looks to me as he might be coming back into running is given an op-ed in the in the Daily Telegraph couple of weeks ago all the potential that wouldn't be too bad for a very effective newspaper group of them.

They are good for you.

I think that would be very good.

Look like a bit of know before I come in and he absolutely refused to go about 350 million at that point he was talking about making a bit with Lynn Forester de Rothschild who owns buddy selling a very significant sharing economy, so there was a clue there, but she might be that that that be might be coming back, but that's only wasn't going to go above 350 million, so now I'm just happy to shout 500000000 seems quite surprised me and people Competition Commission issues clear problem seemingly Leicester so that you that the market Sekonda change it and you can if you are your competitors always it's different.

It's not just very now and focused anymore.

Is it mean I found in terms of the competition thing and obviously set my background, but I found it quite interesting that an article I read at some point this week was highlighting and you saw earlier.

What highlighting that the way we consume Media or are our prayers are princess on news has completely changed and because of that the where they haven't got it still goes to Manchester to think what your opinion is a whether it works, but it is still goes through.

They will have a significant share of daily news, but we read I'm using so many different ways now and then I'm still a bit of a you know I'll Die Hard with the Guardian everyday, but you know she's community specially younger Communities are reading the news on social media platforms and it's a real Global Digital entity that the dislocation of new I find that in terms of competition.

Yes as a significant share of the press that the daily news as we sort of formally knew it but actually when you think about I mean meta my Amazon music in take every day and as x and tiktok probably and you know I find that very horrific, but that's quite an interesting taken on in terms of competition.

Appetiser competition within print the Daily Mail do the Telegraph advertising do the already going on with in there? I mean if I was in that sort of backroom departments are either of those newspaper groups.

I will be still looking quite nervously to to my job at the moment because you know the volume down a load of you gonna lose your toast.

This is saying that the number of people on the Daily Mail the Mail on Sunday lost their jobs this year when those those papers and wine shops together in a in a slightly and likely is an investment it doesn't it's not a super Costcutter I mean that there's tidying up the business and private dancer in the last 18 months now and it out right and it's not just a normal events wing which is but that's a lot of the links are actually in the Middle East

And in terms of the financing I'm going to eat.

It's very very hard to come unravel because it's all control through the various different entities known as sort of Rothermere continuation Bosch water Jersey and Guernsey mostly and then I think some of it flows through Cayman Islands are Richard Brooks Private Eye who was cover genius unravelling balance sheets had a go at this.

He noticed a transaction recently where one part of the years of Guernsey based entity was sold to another for around 900 million.

Don't know anymore now, but that's only looks like the money is certainly being shuffled whether they would want to go into a bit out right.

I think it's still interesting.

I think we're going to see some other other kind of impossible Partners in emerging and I do know as well that there are concerns being brought up by elsewhere to something stand and pull a credit you have already racing concerns about the the Daily Mail possible future profitability and safety if they leave they go through with her with a deal on this or scale is a private entity makes it.

Hide behind some of these cash exchanges and also you don't have any shareholders who can I pick up the fuss about it and you've got that you got to prove the worth of it take money.

It was the budget this week Chancellor Rachel Reeves announce nothing new for the sector despite a concerted campaign for improved tax credits for film and high-end TV car asking for things have changed much but there doesn't seem to be anything you know there is anything new they haven't taken anything away, but there is anything new and I'm not that surprised by that I think of anything.

I mean I don't know but I would think that the government would say the dumbest a bit of a solid in the April budget where they increase the visual effects tax and centre forgotten the UK and they have also maintained rates relief the studio, so you know there.

I mean to have an 80-in TV tax relief and we have an independent film tax relief so obviously generates millions of pounds and the idea is that you know you're trying to generate random generator no a stronger sex to hear and bring more business in from abroad and within our own short so not industry.

There was quite a bit of disappointment in in yesterday's budget.

I mean the BFG British film commission statement on LinkedIn and they seemed quite happy.

I haven't been that many thanks, but they were quite happy in the fact that at least you know studio rates relief has remained as it is but there has been a call from prominent leaders in our industry ask in a lobby in the government for an increase to the HDTV tax relief do in Featherstone who's really well in figure 1 the production company called Sister picture.

She does amazing work gloves.

The split just missing loads of anything credits, but she's very well-known industry successful business woman and you know she was quite for syphilis in trying to make a snowman for the industry that hasn't materialised in the budget and the others about covering a broader selection of types of television haven't got more expensive actually one can accommodate and things like that and maybe something that should be considered.

I was doing had a conversation with a leader and a production house on the entertainment and factual TV which absolutely isn't included in any of that tax incentives and and they're very obviously very keen for for that to be recognised because there is significant part of our industry.

Obviously portable as well for maximum.

You know outside Hollywood and there's not much going in Hollywood at the moment, but you know we are the leading FilmOn TV Hub in the world you no answer in terms of the talent.

We've got here the infrastructure.

It's you know.

It's right up there.

So it is disappointing.

It's a very difficult market at the moment and you know there are companies that are struggling there a free on settee struggling.

You know they are all asking for support from the government.

So yeah, there's this appointment for sure you do the effects that your girl but how important is the tax credit for keeping that work in the in the UK when you were allowed to if you were shooting.

You know from January you were allowed to start claiming turn off the Ball but you will have some cleaning your budget.

So that was really positive step but you know it's a lot of lobbying from industry bodies to get that over over 9 for a long period of time.

The Labour government when they came in July last year were you know they were quite vocal about the size of our industry and how they see that is worth investing in so I think that's why there's quite a disappointment but for the terms of visual effects yeah, I mean for my business or business.

We we are constantly talking to clients within the UK and beyond about the benefits of finishing your projects using the visual effects tax incentive in the UK so but there is a education process to go through I mean obviously it's out there and you know but we're trying to tell you know did you know that if you did this you can get this much back.

So you know you're looking at it in some ways 30% back really after significant saving they also removed are used to being 80% That's been removed now.

So you know it should leads to a stronger sex so should leave.

Obviously, we could spend I think it's too early to tell because you know it's only just depends really I mean you could look at the stats of how many of our well-known visual effects houses that have had a very difficult time is your some of not have closed their doors and so but that's not necessarily down to tax incentives the whole whole whole Industries you know it's changing a transforming.

They're just generally less of those sort of high very shows with you know they just don't get commissioned as much as they did and that's just the way it is currently the BBC in the budget options around the world service and then that's what the funding team to grasp that third rail of talking about BBC

In a lot of the funding which came from the front of the foreign office for the world service, but it's not something that they have one of those about is it I think the fear is because of the way that will get greeted by particular right wing press who never like any money going to BBC BBC at all and the idea of presents TV and radio for foreign people roll their own find vision.

Ok, just for the Break BBC board members faced MPs on The Culture media and sport select committee this week a person who has emerged From Nowhere but it's been a journalist my mind to go in the resignation for my Sunday Times political editor.

Please be doing my clients has been representing SEM I would suggest might be slightly more significant to where is out now what you were doing at this time 25 years ago and off the BBC is not unexpected know it's all popping in to say how much they love to BBC and wonderful views before they went into the room they had said there was the planes intimate when he pays tan comes off at the BBC and said you are not to criticise other board members about that point who sings the sort of tourists to buy a lot of them on BBC and what people outside as well.

I think the BBC made.

It was a long way back.

Do you remember when James Purnell resigned from Gordon Brown resign along with him and that they just didn't happen because they've got a job at the BBC which really really put story backs up.

Labour cabinet minister pre-match directly getting in as a senior talking to people BBC that one who have I got knocked he wasn't good at his job, but they just said just get a taurean as well.

Just show that you would and I think then there's this reaction to Boris Johnson kind of in a Boris Johnson the way just wanted to make Mr heavy rain.

It was all day Care head office Cheylesmore the the BBC One and Justified in doing that because you know having jokes banana senior all had previously been seen as being you know but excuse to the left, so I might take all politicians.

Are there should be a deputy director-general packed with more of a news and you've had a role which used to exist at the BBC

My boyfriend didn't see who everyone's complaining about and said was no good at all within the deputy director-general.

I haven't had went for Sims saving money.

It doesn't really save money, but it sounds like you're going to say something.

Yeah.

He was awarded money certainly this excuse about people the BBC not necessarily know you're at news.

I was found a bit a bit nonsensical Peter firmin.

Never that editing documentary the Queen when you know it's a studio is there was the remember which one it was just the one who was the news background.

It's going to be honest 21-year old turning up for the first week work experience in private life.

I would expect to be of the sport with the Queen's storming out of a photoshoot when she's

Done anything like that before over 60 years of her reign, how much new strange know how trump and his followers would react to some of his speech by the challenge better for TV Productions can anything this unsettling drags at all.

It doesn't it somehow I was thinking they can move out of the old sporting analogy.

I mean when I bought the coach would say just don't defend the whole time.

Otherwise you don't get too you know deliver your game plan and it says I was thinking about and I think I mean we here I mean inside the industry.

Obviously which is where I am.

You know there's a huge support for BBC's huge.

Love nobody but it shouldn't even be question whether it's just they all go, but everybody you know want to do.

Support this amazing institution that we have that delivers such a varied Minecraft of content you know obviously from you and I know the trump story assignments and maybe some other previous the journalism is there but you know from the live sports in the live music and the kids TV and the the pro gaming setup for different communities in different languages and let you know that has to be protected, but yeah, I would really like them to find themselves in a bit like to sort all this mess out and you know I don't know I'm not inside the BBC of course.

I don't know but I just think there's any business sort out the leadership team sort out that bored give that main structure and so everyone ok with solid aren't we because these guys know they're together.

They are joined up.

They know what they're doing.

Got a new leader if it's makes business sense bringing a deputy I mean to me and absolute sense, but you know the DJ is like the CEO effectively they don't need to know absolutely necessary need to.

Journalist but they need to understand every little aspect of that business in order for it to to run effectively and I think at the moment that core is just like disheveled.

I mean and you can feel that invited can the BBC ever get on office they never seem to really I know what you mean, but they don't even seem to want to come Showcase and show off about the things that they do and no one else does they always going to Netflix in the way to do that look as well BBC we giving you an exemplary new service most of the time really really good controlling news and bulletin stuff for the trusted brands like Panorama and then all the current affairs stuff local radio network which is something that no one else is going to offer a or have the ability to do and yeah, that's what is the constantly have been ÷ back and under the they seem to want to pull money out of Robin put money into the support for the rest of the you know cultural areas in through the Proms and three Radio 3 on all your things like that.

No one else out there commercially is going to be doing this sort of thing as well value.

Tell yourself.

I'm going to go to the market.

I think you say that's what we're saying.

That's what no one else has an people will rephrase that is the issue of the week in Week Out it's a very well organised the people in other news organizations political Benson a desire to do something but also that smaller BBC News website is excellent news for the people who own website and there are never going to be able to face on the scale of that activity that's coming from that direction.

No, I mean that dad dad is the difficulty that when your opponent in the market are the people who have the most ability to speak out against you and always about you then that's not a very happy position being is it? What makes the BBC trying to sort of compare themselves to Netflix

IPlayer is one of the best performing streaming services in the world.

I mean that significant for where we are today in the way that we can see in content and you know that there isn't really like that is not anything and its adjacent the BBC in the world and I think one of the reasons why it comes under fire so much is because the taxpayer and funding that it receives everybody knows that they have a part of it.

So when one thing goes wrong when one piece of my mother has been phenomenal amount of scandal coming out of the institution and you know I think that's that's that we get to have a we get to have a go at that.

Don't be because that's hours and actually it's a much-loved institution that we should protect ok when we return some big news about some new studio, so I'll see you in a sec hello Media club listeners hat-trick hear from podcast Discovery

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It's a good news, UK

Yes, I'm isn't it wonderful that the Investment in our industry and in our community is that's got to be seen as positive.

I think that in terms of Studios there's but you just said there are many I mean even postcode and particularly in the Southeast I mean, I mean there's the war Dagenham sky Elstree just across the road from original Elstree then obviously you've got the fantastic Elstree Studios 100 years old this year.

You've got Pinewood which is obviously expanding Shepperton there expanding.

There's a lot you know and I'm missing names of listen to 3 miles is obviously one of our long-standing and so yeah, I mean it's it's it's interesting that another one has I mean it was we didn't go so it's going to be reaction to it, but it's sort of

Government adverts more of you now that green belt is ok to build on if it's fucking gross of the of the country and that's why they sort of gave it the tick yeah, I mean so I did have a play about this a while ago which was that is all very well building these Studios and I think that's it from investment perspective.

I think that's really positive news story what I have struggled with previously is where are you getting the the train crew from in the crew that work in the studio? Is that they have been there? It's a nice trade you have to be skills phase 1 sought of started having trouble finding Phase 2 and there's a bit of a discussion about your are there enough people and skilled people in the area, and I think that in some ways previously it's been robbing Peter to pay Paul in it's fine.

I'm going to get my crew from here and then but then there's got where they're going to get you know it's what you really my opinion and I've got a big hug bear about training.

Build a sustainable future and what I did find quite interesting on the Marlow Studios deal is that they are you know centralno web page and I really hope they stand by this.

I'm sure that's part of the reason it got through is that this is meant to be a campus and they're meant to be training the future of that part of the industry and I think that's phenomenally important because you know we do have talked about already.

You know this amazing place of having this country, but you know parts of our industry and they might be you have to train the Next Generation is what I'm trying to say that has to be diverse and inclusive we have to search far and wide for our Talent and uncover first Hammond from areas.

You know he might think I'm being close to them.

It's not with very much Open For Business and have to train the Next Generation to continue to have a really prime position in the Global market, Telford last week and obviously built that over time with all the study.

Organisations in the same place that somebody help them establish himself.

I think what they done is destination and that's what needs to happen.

I think with my own it feels like that's what they are trying to create just hang out there some of them.

That's gone out about them, but Manchester Salford is a really good case study and I quote this all the time.

You know that is an amazing hub now and noise does a leading industry in terms of film and TV production in a 4lifer scripted for all kinds of amazonas, but you know that but they all take you 15 to 20 years to make that community to make that sustainable industry, so you're not just shipping Talent up from the Southeast you actually training and creating an amazing Hub in in that area.

That's what they've done in Salford brilliantly well and in Cardiff and in Bristol and you know but you've got to start you've got to be.

Brilliant that you're investing brilliant that you know you clearly got a heads up on the pipeline coming into this country and it seems like if You Play Your Cards Right this should be a significant TV coming brilliant, but yeah, you got to be real with yourself.

This is going to be a long process these people are just going to pop up and you know we can't cut corners with that because that's what gives us are opposition in global film and TV creation so it shows thank you.

Yes, I wasn't pictures.

We are I'm in post production and post-production for 420 + years and for anyone sort of listening and watching he might not be in the industry post-election literally as it says on the tin the stage of after production, so where someone might go out film something they will come to Studios like ours and

Weird and now colourgrade individual effects and the sound makes and it's that polished bit to get that piece of content to Ayr residence pictures we launched in 2022 and we only do final piece of the puzzle so we do the picture finishing so would colour grading visual effects online which is the sort of cleaning up and make sure thanks polishing you know technically sound and will deliver it to stream.

Isn't broadcast as that's what we do when you doing when you doing colouring at work does not work depend on how it's been made it can do yeah.

I mean so get some things like this is this is a big job to do this really.

I mean colour grading is a significant storytelling.

You know it really support the narrative and you know if you're watching TV at home or film and you're not in the industry.

You shouldn't know that.

We've created in this way, but you should be fine.

That we've created something to make you react to the content in some ways, so what we were really strict strict it in scripted episode eggs and features and we do a little bit and feature dogs as well, so we set up business up in reaction to how changing in reaction to the fact that the stream has arrived 10 years ago and that really created a more complex delivery that we have to make a technical term so our business was setup to kind of ok.

We see this is happening and actually what you need is a specialist pair of hands to deliver extremely high production values that we all expect now everything we watch so it was delivered that fit the efficiently and I'll make sure it's still got that really beautiful filmic feel and deliver the vision of you know that the Creator which is in our clients a production company so we recently.

A lot of shows this year but one shall we did which came out earlier this year nobody in the Mexican more it went on Amazon and BBC and that really encapsulate what we do.

You know the production arrived and we we we use the amazing team are amazing and we had at the colour grade on that really delivered her sort of premium feature film feeling but we stepped up and have to deliver you know 800 fish effect shops in that in that series you know what sort of creating a jungle sort of feel for that for like for the next of the show and it was you know it but me know making sure that they can't we could deliver it efficiently because we now working such you know compress budgets and how we going to make that work, but still you deliver something that looks premium.

If someone is making something for Netflix they offer not going to see much any back-end from that make all the money up front.

Play saving money and doing things more efficiently is pretty essential to that model is absolutely essential for any model you know we were with me no public service broadcasters in the UK and we work with streamers.

You know we work on feature films and all of them come with a different complex almost at House of Cards funding model now and it's you know you have to make sure that you're delivering can fit within that modelling.

It's and it is efficient and no one has been punished because you know of Legacy technology or Legacy people or just very progressive.

It's quite near it's 4 years old so we set it up very much with with a forward-thinking mindset and that is alternately to deliver you no time for that need you know that specialist craft feeling but they need to get that show out efficiently and effectively and looking great continues.

the podcast which have been a part for quite a long time is now gone funny visualise people maybe wear off my colleagues and various other of the airport in and out as well, so it's fortnightly yes and that we have taken the jump this is something that I'm talking about making TV look as good as people expect it to I find it extraordinary that also there has been removed for to visual podcast now which fantastic do you know I know that we look absolutely amazing but people are prepared to accept a sort of lower lower quality lower tech kind of finish on watching on YouTube people watching podcast on YouTube on my telly's quite happy to accept that slightly more forgiving people are put them or the

You are about something cos I can have my entertainment you are I think there is probably a better higher expectation for what to deliver I mean we don't have to to grade this yet, but if it everybody else is you can see this demand to move that way I mean sort of the visual podcast is relatively new but it's essentially studio is the studio so we've never really you might give it a 1 past to make sure that your expensive presenter looks great, but really I mean you didn't he wouldn't waste collection process but certainly when it comes to features and dramas and and featured Oxwich have much higher production than ever have before and that's from you know our friends coming over from the US 10-15 years ago and starting to we started to sort of see their content on our Screens and it just changed the game so I think the things like this.

It's you wouldn't really expect to have a

Colour grade 1 house right now and if I can sort you out that Mexicans make a slip really good really pretty who made the decision all podcast have to be film 1960s living room really well out of there and if his earlier than the podcast as well.

Do you sales or sales of the bag reviews gone up when he got news for you when it's in series? It's very hard to Connor follow that through in the same way that is quite hard.

Maybe we can have a social media presence now probably as well.

Digital projectors for quite a long time will we never stuff online competitors which is why the Prince of Bel-Air Stihl 235 fortnite which is the same thing because you never become your own competitive.

That's never thought of it like that is very useful is that we have a very good at doing our conversation Media presence for well, when they put up things are particularly.

What was really really well on on social media is the little number crunching boxes on my colleague leukaemia mostly, so give us a shout but they are quite often people take a photograph on the phone and put it up and you get a lot of contraction for that, but just as it's very very difficult to translate that back into him.

You're home and how much that turns into go to newsagents buying a copy or into subscriptions.

You really quantify.

You know whether he is on on having it must have an effect with absolutely must do that.

I would say he's not introduces the things about series 1 in 1992.

Play the know that all they don't like people.

He's just that bloke who's on the telly and this is quite funny on Friday night forever has coverage of the media changed as you're covering of the media changed we find ourselves doing a lot more correcting the media because I have fewer resources and have become more sort of political parties am in in the meantime.

So there's more of an element that used to be a lot of gossip from home as soon as we still do it how much most readers you're outside the industry are interested in whether or not what the night editor of The Daily Star said to the dental lab after you came back from the pub in entirely certain.

There's a bit less of that behaved.

And an unlawful information Gathering things are pretty much a thing of the past now partly because of the Leveson Enquiry change the laundry because there's just no money anymore afford to buy a private detectives to to do any of this kind of stuff these days, but the other thing I think most of the other a lot of the rest of the media has abandoned the median apart from a good salesman.

Used to be the mediaguardian on on Monday in normal something to leave the advertising online that disappear Telegraph you have a superb Media diary and then that was that would be in by the Walker Brothers who were very keen on people riding by pressing that doesn't really cover the Press And volume BBC kicking, but they're going to mention each other's owners.

When after the news of the world and that was a but they were at that point there was a we described in part as a molotov Ribbentrop Pact that the average Brit Award made with the Telegraph at that point was that you're not going after us.

Not that I'm saying anything in the news about will get the other time but there is you know there is an unwillingness to to put too much scrutiny on your counterparts.

We left it fall on you in the other direction so stories connected by One theme and then shoe horns into a format of existing Media property this week is called just connect yes, I'm Victoria Coren Mitchell I'll give you 3 words.

I need to do is find the media story that connects them and once again Alexa audio network is taking that shamelessly plagiarize brief from producer Matt Hill and created a playlist of

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I was happening already and it's just going to get a cinematic release or I read that it has been sorted knocking around Hollywood for for a fair number ideas and couldn't they can get it off the ground for various reasons and and I think but for some reason Donald Trump must have taken it upon himself to call his met a paramount.

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Oh, I don't know too much about it too much about it, but it's this Vince Dale Dale what's his name he is a prominent.

He's very big and environmental with babelfish a quarterly magazine about green shoes babelfish, being a Douglas Adams success therefore as well.

You will want to pick up on here.

Sorry for the Daily Telegraph you anything right about dolphins gets gets a lot of colour hate yous and emission from the right column quite reason I was so intrigued by that we we got in contact today this part of a because they want me to do it one more to go.

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It's all those registration in know anything good to say incredibly positive about this because it's like a right old sounding 80s radio station and it's what they would all like to return if you can come up with a creative idea and a creative Concepts we can really cut.

This is just play 80s music all day long apparently Grand Theft Auto Vice City separate fake radio stations with Debbie Harry being the DJs and what I think we got the box.

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It's just brilliant.

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Obviously as your prayers you get to go off in work out what pop-up radio station we can reinterpret the media crap as we come back all about that and also thanks again to Alex audio network music something that she and they can do for you as well.

Just had to audionetwork.com keep up the good work.

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