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Sounds music Radio podcasts BBC sounds music Radio podcasts and welcome to feedback the radio 4630 comedy slots has been serving up a slice of Jonathan pie on Thursday evenings, but many listeners are really upset by the sexual nature of the content being broadcast at tea time.

I'll be putting your points to the commissioning editor responsible and the latest feedback interview of the Year nomination is a very powerful from life-changing call Jonathan pie burst onto the Radio 4 airwaves in August 2023.

It's a spoof BBC phone in program.

Jonathan pie is the presenter of the comedic content taking place in the fictional production office as well as on Air Jordan pies the satirical character created by comedian and writer Tom Walker and his swearing.

British politics made a huge hit on social media before he was picked up by the BBC will call Jonathan pie was first released as a boxes on BBC signs and it didn't hold back on the themes and language was also released at 11 p.m.

On Radio 4 on night to you later.

Some of those episodes from the first series of been edited again and broadcast in 6:30 p.m.

Comedy slot on the station author writing slightly swearing Jonathan pie is about to take to the air again his new phone is doing quite well surprisingly good into tonight show prompted a discussion about some of the darker areas of the internet Mrs call.

Jonathan Pie online.

Thank you now.

Could you get me some food so that I can take a picture of it, please get this is for Instagram Sam got to be healthy.

Can you get me a vegan sausage roll from Greggs please write BBC hardware laptops iPads and the light are not to be used for this extracurricular activity BetFred shit that checking I'm sure I've got really doors an extract of Jonathan pie there, but normally I play a clip which exemplifies what listeners are most concerned about but it's just not appropriate to play the most explicit parts of the comedy out of context and I love you offer.

Love you have contacted feedback to saving you think that two episodes in particular.

Just not suitable for the 630 slot one is called online the other called women who is the flavour of what you've been saying I'm from.

I've never contact you Radio 4 to make a complaint to hours of it.

I couldn't live without it it brings so much to my life my husband and we listen to All the series more than once and it's really funny however.

I was really shocked to hear it on the 6:30 p.m.

Comedy.

I'm open-minded person and teenage daughter is also listened to most of the genus and Pie series but the episode called online was not ok for an early evening.

I'm sure you will sort about it carefully before you.

Where did I don't think you made the right decision? I've been a social worker for many years and I'm pretty and druggable at listening to jokes about graffiti rate anal sex in masturbation at dinner time was too much even for me.

I really like to know the thought process behind choosing to Erith from Crowborough

Sussex I was listening to the repeat of Jonathan pie this evening 16th of October and wondered if it has attracted many comments to feedback 6:30 p.m.

Is possibly not the time broadcaster programme with such strong language the original late night time was much more suitable surely.

I know it's a satire or be at one.

I don't find amusing although comedic is a very personal thing but the subtle as a flying approach.

Where is very very very very quickly I quite like a modicum of swearing myself, but such an over-the-top.

Just smacks of naughty teenagers seeing how far they can go especially time is Frank Hamer from Chertsey usually a comedy prior to the Archers grandchildren in car on time jonathan.pie.

I consider myself broad-minded, but this is at 6:30 p.m.

And it's really inappropriate not funny.

Not even clever.

It should have been too much later time.

I'm a huge fan of Radio 4 and this is the first time I felt compelled to call in a little bit of trouble with something I said earlier.

I probably shouldn't do that in future, but you know apologies if anyone was offended or more to the point more importantly to what I said at face value do feedback and Peter Bradford from St Neots in Cambridgeshire it's 7 p.m.

On Thursday the 23rd of October and I've just endured an episode of call Jonathan pie.

I love almost everything in the 6:30 p.m.

Slot I like most comedy however.

He but this just isn't fun and even if it amuses some people and it is completely inappropriate for a slot in the early evening.

Catherine from Sevenoaks when is a really great pleasures of listening to Radio 4 is the lack of where is mace improve? It's not meant to but it's radio without expletives is new show called Jonathan pie is not funny is full of vulgar swearing and he's on at the wrong time for time audience.

Please reschedule it at the very least too late night when the audience might appreciate the foul language.

My name is Gary Chandler 6:30 on a Thursday evening as an adult.

I might have found this 30-minute comedy discussion funny if it was on much later in the evening.

I'm not sure the 6:30 p.m.

When children are like to hearing this very adult content.

I'm feeling quite is stressed.

Who sang with this one's appropriate for early evening listening? I'm disgusted as a content was deliberately disgusting.

I've never complained about any program or other media before hello.

My name is Ellie from day at 6:30 last Thursday October 16th I left my son doing his homework at the kitchen table let the dog in from the garden and when I returned I walked into a barrage of extreme sexual banter it used to be quite safe for kids to grow up in a Cloud Radio 4 in fact our four daughters were raised on Radio 4 and it's served them well in their careers call.

Jonathan pie is not acceptable before 9 p.m.

I shouldn't have to police this and the BBC should be ashamed.

I wondered if we were just being out date.

People have checked in with my daughter's house of filmmakers from Kingston total agreement thumbs down the show didn't resonate with the 20-something 50 something's and it shouldn't be on so early for little ears to hear all the women responsible for commissioning the series originally and more importantly for choosing to put these programs on at 18 comedy slot Jones me know.

It's Julia McKenzie commissioner for comedy and entertainment at Radio 4 Julia welcome back to feedback.

Thank you very much.

We've had a blue of comments similar to those that we've just had from listeners.

Many writing for the first time somebody like Jonathan pie and have listened to it and enjoyed it on signs but all who feel that this level of swear a lot really explicit content is just inappropriate at 6:30 on Radio 4.

Did you get it wrong? I don't think I got it wrong.

That feedback carefully and will always bear that sort of feedback in mind.

I appreciate people taking the time to to get in touch about it.

We don't give it a lot of thought originally created for a podcast only and without any clear intentions to put it on Radio 4 and that was couple of years ago now and so we launched it and we talked about it on back as well as a podcast with ended for 11 p.m.

On Saturday and then I made a decision to put it out at 6:30 but with a further edit to swearing and some other content so it was compliant for 6:30 slot it's been such a success critically acclaimed.

I think it's outstanding piece of work and I just really wanted wide audience to be able to listen to it and that's what the 630 slot allows for so it's quite.

Different from the podcast versions and you can only hear those head it's at 6:30 live so if anyone is wanting to catch up and think all let me take a view on if I agree with people here.

They are you can only hear them live so if you click on to Jonathan pie in the schedule.

It will take you to the original unedited podcast versions.

Ok.

Do you want to be very clear that? I'm not from people who had this on BBC signs and the team year did double check that and yes the BBC Science version has got more swearing and some bits have been cardide, but I've listened to both versions and this is about what was broadcast at 6:30.

So I'm confused.

They have just sorted out to feedback with a list of all the swear words and language that was used in the programme.

No, I'm not going to read that out, but I will reach you some of the other words from letters who wrote it they said I'm feeling quite distressed.

They said the content was vulgar shop.

Inappropriate well, I understand the strength of feeling with Lesnar and others as well and I don't discounted it is to be subjective comedy and there are some people who said they didn't find it funny, but I was saying that's a lot of that language has already been featured in other 6:30 shows really do I mean do you think that a program whose central running gag is masturbation to toilet porn is family listening at 6:30.

Do you think that's been aired before on Radio 4? It's not that example know which was to show how he could be there to Jonathan pie character to take to your point about family listening the evidence is over.

It's an adult audience about time.

It's around about 9 and 10 households.

Don't have school-age children and you are listening to that slide that.

Catherine Raja so therefore, did you tell school-age children not well? We had opening continuity that made the town very clear and we describe beauty said it was slightly sweary Jonathan pie.

I think there's a massive difference between slightly scary Jonathan pie and masturbation and toilet porn anal sex with that show the producer is is talking about pornography the colours want to talk about it.

It's not a producer this wasn't woman's playing the producer, but it's clearly signposting to the audience who are listening that this content is content is coming you can tell with the tone the direction.

It's going to take after you have somebody in continuity saying beforehand Julia this is not suitable for family listening.

I accept that if that's we just said slightly swearing and we didn't give.

Occasion of the nature of the adult content coming up that was an oversight and we could have done better with that.

I appreciate you know I'd like to to let you know what Sarah Lonsdale has said because you are a number of episodes episodes and Archie being included you did decide to air at the episode called Women and it's not just the swearing the graphic sexual humour that Sarah Lonsdale from Canterbury thinks makes this episode unsuitable what a terrifically clunky insensitive and downright unfunny episode of cold pipe you broadcast on Thursday 23rd of October titled women discuss women stuck cos you call it women's done calling something else as I listened with growing disbelief at the attempts to make light of everything from the #metoo movement to the gender pay gap my jaw hit the floor.

Is the programme was attempted satire but it simply didn't work it was excruciating me bad.

I was even more shocked to discover that this was the second earring how many someone at the BBC have had the courage to speak up about the wisdom of earrings show what a time when you stories about Epstein and the Grooming gangs enquiry only under the prevalence of men's abuse of power it simply is not funny.

Yeah.

I will thank you Sarah for setting up that out.

You comedy is subjective you it's not funny and it didn't work disagree with you.

I understand for you.

It didn't work but the idea behind Jason pies character.

Is that he has a very distinctive worldview puts a very clear stake in the ground in the opening minutes of the show and that's what he days in the women episode and then throughout the episode the producer character and the sound engine.

To the show will start to change his opinion, so how often come out with something Cross or arrogant or disrespectful and then what happens is the scales from his eyes and it gets its degree of Morecambe muffins, so I feel that's the journey that he went on in that episode but I understand that Sarah for her.

It didn't work and I don't know she listened to the whole half hour or so, just really put off by that opening more provocative statement from pie at the start that is the moral comeuppance often is visited on party throughout all of these episodes watershed on radio the way there is on television so in theory you can broadcast explicit content whenever you want, but two years ago.

I suggested that that Jonathan pie going out at 11 p.m.

And was the rudest thing that you've ever put aside and you agreed you also said at the time that you would not.

Dueling it at 6:30 so I think it was good.

It is it continues to be a really fine piece of critically acclaimed and I thought a further edit making it more suitable for 6:30 would be the way to and expose it to that wider audience you know it is my to take some risks and when we do new things it can not please everyone it's my job to try and bring the best comedy out there to the widest possible audience and we have such a range of comedy at 6:30 for all tastes and it felt like something I wanted to do about as I say it making specific edits for the 6:30 understand the not all of the responses to feedback agree with C with what they think is acceptable at 6:30, but yeah, it was the overwhelming majority.

Of our listeners who didn't think that it was appropriate.

What's interesting to me? Is it when I interviewed with Tom Walker who was the creator of Jonathan pie and the voice of Jonathan pie and in that same interview you told me that Tom didn't want it to go out at 6:30 and then tom said that he didn't feel comfortable with that because families listen to Radio 4 for his exact words.

So what change it went out after we talked in August 2 years ago and got positive reactions wanted to bring it to a wider audience and he is a particularly challenging provocative character.

That has since that series went out his pro is increased even more so did he change his mind to it? Wouldn't Tom Walker's say to you when you said I want to put this site at 6:30 understand.

It was my call but also.

Yeah, and he recorded some lines to help make the edits work and took a lot of thought between all he wouldn't have known that as well that the ministry of agents of the just children to start really listening to this that 6:30 slot so that was only did you say in a school audiences? Yeah? Yeah, I'm really sorry if you got a family this isn't for you know there is plenty of 6:30.

That would be suitable if you got children in the car.

I would have thought that Radio 4 would expect the most things on on Radio 4 of family listening unless you are absolutely flag up which I think the view is that it's an adult network and you know we try to give indications with tone at the start of shows and then during a show so that people can make an informed choice.

I think it is round about 9 out of 10 households, who listen to Radio 4 don't have school-aged children in the household, so we have a duty as well to cater for people who don't children you do have a we do a couple more positive comments.

Hi, it's Michael Newcastle a long time listening to Radio 4 via commissioner.

I just want to add my toe on the discussion of call Jonathan pie.

Thank you for being brave enough to commission the show the episode that just add what's the most honest representation of what and how people think I've ever heard telling it how it is without being gratuitously obscene or indecent just honest and unpretentious.

Thank you Dr Charles Elliott Lincolnshire I'm writing to congratulate the BBC for being brave enough to broadcast the brilliant call Jonathan pie.

Does complaining about this program.

May have a point regarding the time of broadcast so bye.

Should you later in the evening but please do continue to broadcast what is a kind of experiment on your behalf of where you intending to shock intending to sure but I think I do want to have the opportunity to bring some of the more cutting-edge comedy commissions to that what I don't worry at 6:30 know where the audience is available to listen.

I'm so I felt the something of this quality was a good thing to to try and that slots with with this edit and you know we'll see by the time we get to the end of this series.

What that but it's part of my job as I said earlier to bring a range of different comedians and different writing to the audience and sometimes and sort of social functions and I think that some of the arguments within this series are.

Standing race for example some of the frankness in the way that race is discussed in in call Jonathan pie is thoughtful in such a way that you might not get in a lot of factual programme.

I think it it's brings to light some of those subject matters in a fresh way that isn't explored in and the rest of the network.

I understand that there are a few more to go.

I wonder if the audience feedback so far.

I will make any difference to your decisions to add the rest of the series or perhaps certainly I don't disregard the feedback and I appreciate people getting in touch and taking the time to set out some really eloquent comments which they considered lot and I also appreciate that lot of them.

Enjoy it but in time slot.

So yes, I am babe.

Not mind as we look at the rest of the series that's repeating but you are going to continue to repeated yes, Julia McKenzie commissioner for comedy and entertainment.

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It's time for another name for interview of the Year annual Roundup of the best interviews that you've had across all BBC audio channels the ones that done your heartstrings expanded view of the world or simply.

In your tracks this week's nomination take all three of those boxes.

We've heard from listener Laura Crichton who nominated a recent episode of life-changing in which Dr Williams former British Army medic is experienced in the Falklands War changed forever, who's why she thought it was so exceptional in her own words and I'm from Devon I would like to nominate Dr Sian Williams for her interview with Falklands veteran.

Just stay in the first episode of the new series of life-changing hello and welcome to the show that here's some extraordinary people who've had a moment which alters everything the way they see themselves and the way they relate to the word starts with tears running down my face listening is Shawn expertly and gently help Jeff tell his painful story of complex PTSD and between them.

Describe and explain the huge impact on the brain and body and her chance meeting turned his life around and just to clear an area clear with mine and then he stepped on one and that was a significant event in my life.

You could tell Jeff felt deeply and was hard for him to be counted difficult times you could also here he felt autotrust insurance and felt safe to go to his dark places.

There are a lot of sheep in the Falklands and the shifts produced roast lamb and these joints were wrapped in some kind of green and instant brain associated a joint of lamb with this unfortunate men's upper thigh Sean give Jeff space to reveal the depth of the horror and impact on.

You could hear how she too was moved by the experience and were you able to instantly in that moment when you smell the lamb were you able to instantly identify.

You've been taken back to the explosion and the smell after the explosion absolutely it took me years to find out what that's all about it to be a flashback.

Didn't shy away from difficult questions but did so was gentleness of peace and such compassion so I'm seeing quite a complex.

How long will you living with this avoidance withdrawal? These feelings of shame and blame the codes and when your brain and body telling you you need to get out of somewhere because dangerous that basic survival Instinct which happened every time you smell meat.

What were you doing? I will do anything to go away.

I love to Ishan

Charlie just medical assistant dog into the conversation towards the end, so I applied online to medical detection dogs and remember thinking this will go in my life.

I'm not this lucky and you say that after many interviews and tests they came and this is what you said in your letter the real life changing moment on the 3rd of December 2018 to trainers for medical detection dogs walked up to my door and introduce me to the most beautiful black labrador called Charlie I felt a change person hearing it and full of gratitude for the being charities out there like medical assistance dogs whose work can make such transformative changes to people's lives.

And actually Charlie break down the barriers people see him for what he is with his red coat on and I know that is doing important job and they aren't they kept that I don't have to be ashamed anymore.

Do you accept that you so much to all involved for bringing us a story was thank you Laura Crichton for putting forward that very powerful conversation on life-changing and don't forget that you can send me your nomination for the interview of the year.

We already have a host of strong contender for the feedback shortlist and the final decision will be made by a panel of listeners.

I'll be announcing the winner in a special program around Christmas there is still time to send in your nomination but for now for me.

Thank you for listening and for giving us your feedback.

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