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Download MP3Sounds music Radio podcasts BBC sounds music Radio podcasts and welcome to feedback well, no prizes for guessing what the feedback inbox has been overflowing with this week the BBC's new director-general and see you would BBC News their resignations on Sunday almost a week after an internal memo to the Telegraph acoustic Panorama of splicing together two parts of a Donald Trump speech the number of claims of bias within BBC news of many commentators over the week, but it is your say on this program that matters and I'll be putting some of your points to form Radio 4 controller markdown, is the story on Andrew Martin Windsor continue to play I'd I've been getting inside from Daniella Ralph the senior royal correspondent.
Navigate to story of this sensitivity and magnitude and a moving conversation on 6 Music that's been nominated for the feedback interview of the year but first let's last Sunday evening on Radio 4 came this announcement in the past few minutes.
It's been announced that the BBC director-general Tim Davie and the CEO of BBC news that resigned after a l their resignations came almost a week after a story in the Daily Telegraph that a Panorama documentary the diode shortly before the US presidential election last year at edited together two separate clips from Donald Trump's January 6th speech elite internal memo written by a former standard advisor to the BBC Michael Prescott clean the Attic completely misled us it also included a long and detailed list of other claims including criticism of Gaza coverage and trans issues a big day for the B&B
The Telegraph has been publishing is giving evidence of Commons select committee reaction to the claims that have been made as Michael Scott concluded there were systemic problems which has led to accusations of institutional bias in BBC News Tim Davie and denied allegations of bias within the errors of judgement BBC chair Samir shop publicly apologise because we should have earlier and taken a more formal position on it which we have done more recently the week.
There are persistent rumours of an internal by board members to ice the CEO of news.
I understand a statement has been prepared days ago to apologise, but that was blocked by the board.
I'm told there was outright hostility towards the CEO of news Deborah Turness in a crisis meeting on Thursday
Just a week after the BBC was riding high on the success of celebrity traitors, who is and who is not a faithful as taken on a much more serious when it comes to the Future of the BBC One here are some of your comments on the resignations and the coverage that followed I'm Adrian from West Sussex in the UK I choose to pay the licence fee instead of any other streaming service even though I really watch live TV because I highly valuable Radio 4 on the world service which I also access on YouTube ATB regret the resignation of both senior BBC executive.
I think was a failure to quickly respond to criticism from those with a vested interest in the stabilising the BBC that led to the recognition and this could have been avoided unfortunately in the current climate because it is impossible to please all the pee.
The BBC will be blamed it does or blamed it doesn't Richard Dodds we're not in for wall-to-wall coverage of all this crap.
It might be best interest to those employed by the BBC on gravy train salaries, but he pay you lot it's boring as hell.
I say we pay your grossly inflated salaries, but not for much longer because I forgot I'm going to stop buying a licence and sink or swim.
Hi, this is Jackie from Norfolk on the Monday the 10th of November that was that I imagine a very hard day for the employees at the BBC and I want to send my support to each and everyone of you, but I'm choosing Nick Robinson on the Today programme and Evan Davis on p.m.
For their superb and professional coverage of the trump magnified Fallout from the seeming incompetent of board level in failing to respond adequately to the Panorama editing decision.
I lived in Canada for 7 years which helped me realise quite how lucky we are to have our BBC night because I wanted to put your comments and questions to someone from the BBC ID LED current acting head of news Jonathan Munro did try to get him or another BBC representative to come on the program, but I request was turned down.
I am by Mark formerly Radio 4 controller and he's also on the editorial standards committee of the BBC Trust Mark thank you very much for being here to prices at the feedback, whether it's MasterChef or Gary Lineker tweets and sometimes.
I listen is actually think that BBC News over does it perhaps he has not be criticised for burying bad news about the BBC actually no, I'd like you to hear listener and Neil Liversedge he picks up and what no problems and said on the Today programme about the original Panorama documentary on Monday 7th November Nick Robinson on the BBC
Today programme commented on the BBC Reporting of President Trump speech where he appeared twin-size his supporters to storm the capitol building in DC Nick said quote a final thought and intriguing once I understand was at the time of transmission of the Panorama film back in October 2024 there were no complaints received about the editing of Donald Trump's speech unquote it was incredibly disingenuous and to say in effect nobody complained nobody complained BBC because we trusted you nobody complained because nobody thought in a million years you would pull a deepfake style cut and shut job by joining together to separate parts of such an important speech by saying what he did.
Industrial the massive moral and ethical blind spot which really sucks me I've relied on next reporting for my morning new 4 years.
Everything is John Humphrys I can't believe I can't believe him at the BBC who can I believe actually Nick was actually right that nobody complain about the Edit of the speech at the time as we understand it was discovered later in an editorial review of US election coverage, but that broader point is a really poignant one when Neil says if I can't believe the BBC food, can I believe it's so important that the BBC retains the trust of people are damaging this obviously damaging you can trust me Robinson outstand journalist and presenter with a program.
I think that he was trying to make is the contrasting this particular April understandable because it was a bigger.
Play by the panel on the team about Donald Trump and Away some things have any Media reaction it wasn't as if everybody watching her but I can't see why is not the easiest thing to know the two bits was boys together to change the meaning but at the time there was no April and it just was transmitted and nothing happened for quite a while then it did happen and much to my regrets in this may be something you want to come on to be looked at it twice there after in hindsight and remind you should definitely have apologise for the error and because it was clearly a significant no another listener kind of Johnson contact us from the US he says is considered the BBC to be the gold standard reporting matters is not perfect of course everyone has by certainly on the line between the truth in One Spice can be a very fine line a deed fact once in awhile.
Align perfectly with the truth.
I was astonished to hear the final resignations of the top administrative the BBC for allegedly unfairly cutting a portion of Trump's speech in the DC regarding the assault.
Racing January 6th 2021 perhaps some other reasons for these findings with the reporting the event does not reveal any logical cores for this type of drastic action an apology for appropriate would have been more than that and I will question whether even that was necessary.
I think it might be worth a bit of explanation.
Here you touched on it because we all hours of my life and stuff yet.
It's weird to make things sorted bulletin to make them clear in a sense to make them better for the listener or via everything that it is almost everything that isn't a live programme but you can't alter the meeting Donald Trump's January 6th beach one of the most consequential ever by a US President and weather in incited violence and was at the core of the whole debate talk to you and I spoke to this week think that it was ok.
It is widely reported that the BBC's music service at the top you about this earlier this year and did try to defend it to the ball.
One of these Deborah Turness is not perhaps.
It wasn't the original mistake but the defence of it.
That's so hard to understand and I agree.
I don't know what they were using in order to try and then it was alright it.
Obviously wasn't alright and it really wouldn't have been very difficult at the time of putting his program together to get it right of the UK to use as you apply to different bits on the same speech, but there are a multitude of techniques that you can use to make it clear to the audience in a visual grammar Fade to Black or a dissolve or whether you want it or online of commentary returning later.
He said there's that would have done the trick why the BBC News exactly is chose to defend it there after is genuinely a mystery to me.
I'm not stupid people and I think that's really talk to a cultural anxiety about how to go now when you've made a mistake and they offer.
Sometimes they don't in a way that looks as if it's going to get a proportionate and reasonable reaction by the people who read that apology and I think that they were so crammed full of anxiety but if I make the concession it would be misunderstood as being Craven or deferential towards President Trump but I think they were other factors that made them come to was clearly the wrong conclusion about how to handle this particular error when it came to lied BBC it's very clear that people want to service that they can trust the BBC is about to go into a big negotiation with the government about it's future in the shape of the BBC charter which purpose governance and funding is there a real chance that this latest crisis will alter the kind of BBC that we all have in the future.
Yes, it need me the ghost but if decisions are taken in The Heat Of battle or in the heat of the crisis of this one.
It's perfectly plausible long conclusions will be reached and a little bit of dust needs to settle and obviously little be a new person at the top of the BBC in the shape of the director-general will have to be involved in this to bed to try and decisions now.
It's not a good idea.
I think what the BBC does is not only very important.
That's obvious.
When is also very good maybe more contentious, but that's very much my do you taken in a context that allows that part of the argument be properly exposed not damaged hair at former controller of radio for and also member of the editorial standards committee at the BBC Trust thank you so much for joining us.
What do you keep your thoughts coming at a time like this? It's never been more important to share them and if you would like to comment on anything you've heard on any other.
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Stripping his brother of all his titles and honours.
He is now Andrew mountbatten-windsor and must move out of royal Lodge in Windsor was stripped of all this time is last month it seems that even included losing the hyphen in his double barrel surname, Buckingham Palace and published his new the last month has seen one of the biggest Royal stories on the news agenda in years after the man formerly known as Prince Andrew stripped of his royal titles by King Charles on the 30th of October and left his residence in the Royal Lodge all over his connections with America sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein royal stories of always got the potential to drop comments and criticism my name is Patricia milling and I live near Monmouth there are interesting and important events in the world and a large proportion of news for the last few days has been taken up with examining and Revealing the details of Andrew Mountbatten
Misdeeds BBC News is not a scandal sheet or shouldn't be please just eat the facts and move on Robin petherbridge.
No fan a Prince Andrew but the amount of coverage that the world at One and the rest of the BBC News are giving to unsubstantiated allegations against him in relation to Virginia giuffre.
It's just outrageous your remit is to report facts not rumour and speculation.
I feel that BBC News is losing all sense of proportion Boston calling from London please.
Oh, please stop talking about this very tedious and overdone story everyone I've spoken to agrees with heard enough been handed humiliated and punished leaving perhaps investigate all the other men possibly women involved in the Epstein scandal instead of scapegoating.
I'm pleased to say that the BBC's senior royal correspondent Daniella Ralph is just back from a royal trip to Brazil is doing me now on feedback Daniela welcome have been lot of common as you've had saying that the BBC spends too much time on the royal family or B for remembers Peter sums up the views of quite a few listeners when he said let's get the fracture involving the public be disgraced member of the royal family.
Can I be finally closed the Sims 4 more interesting this from the media rather than the people they are supposed to serve because it and scandal at the top we the public and not remotely interested, but there's two points that but let me first ask you about the complaints that royals RX royal just get far too much coverage on the BBC and the BBC itself is more interested in the people it serves up in terms of the audience response questions would have come to me then.
Turn into what we write online or other things on other platforms.
I think there is an enormous amount of audience interest in this and I think the phrase at Pisa use a publicly is what makes it so newsworthy in terms of Law reporting.
It is a hugely significant straightforward new story so forgetting the the Royal elements in an extraordinary news story that has made history and is unprecedented to have a member of the royal family have the title that they were born with stripped away from them in this way.
We have not seen that before is told us a lot about the king.
I'll give you the situation about how Buckingham Palace saw the Threat of damage to the Royal family and why they wanted to do something about it.
So you know I just don't believe it's just a scandal at nobody is interested.
I think there is significant audience intrastat.
Almost exemplify the point of those who think too much coverage.
There was a short news report on the world at 1 on Tuesday weather the name Windsor would have a hyphen or not that was the whole use of board you can see that there must be a lot of listeners.
Who are thinking with everything that's going on globally and here at home.
Do we really need to devote up news a hyphen in the minor detail as well as the big moment because what some of that detail is really telling the time of Andrew mountbatten-windsor is giving a sense of of what is going on in terms of his public profile and how is being stripped of all the trappings of royalty and and how these changes are being made think I do get that is some of them my new shy less interesting but I do think it is part of the wider story of which they have been enormous interest in.
Name itself that's contentious for some list.
My name is Tara Hill Lymington in Hampshire last week.
I'm listening to the world tonight.
I was confused as to why Andrews mountbatten-windsor is referred to as art or Andrew or as the former Prince Andrew after the lead headline.
Why not as Mr Windsor never going to become Mr Mr mum doesn't feel quite right to me because I think we should always flag the audience what he wants was because that is part of the story here, so I'm not quite sure he will be missed.
He will always be Andrew mountbatten-windsor formerly Prince Andrew because I think it is important that we we remind the audience of who he was and what that element of the story has been Daniela relationships are very important in the work that you do not love it.
If you could just give us some insight into how the relationship with the palace works particularly on a story like this.
I mean how much.
Do you get when I made your decision of historic decision as you said to strip a former prince of his title comes? How does it work? Yeah? I'm on this occasion the answer to that is not very much.
I think that was because negotiations between the royal family the government Andrew himself going on still up to the wire for want of a better phrase, so are we just personal background? You know I was on a day off having had a real run of Prince Andrew stories preparing to go to Rio if that was my daughter and you know everything and go in it was we didn't get that we didn't get the notice on this one, but on other occasions.
We do so for example the announcement last the Cancer the King's cancer and announcement was something that was given to us with a little bit of notice.
When we are making an announcement about having significant announcement that things run smoothly that the presenters are in the right place at the correspondence are in the right place the cat that we are ready to go and things can run smoothly so it's not necessary that they giving us and editorial heads up, but they may give us a warning that they have something really significant to say in an hour's time and we should be prepared to report that is there ever a sense that good relationship that you need to have with the Royal households and the access that you need can compromise your journalism.
I really don't think so no.
I mean you are making judgement calls the whole time about you know should you be shouting a question a member of the royal family around this issue and the same way perhaps we would have politician and sometimes even done for us by members of the crowds at gatherer walkabouts and situations like that.
You know I have to give you the number of jobs in the BBC and I feel really strongly that this job to.
What's the same as the others in terms of how you approach it of course there are perhaps the more sensitivity and a bit of diplomacy around the edges but to me they are and you go into them to talk to the right people that you're trying to present and impartial balanced argument about what's going on at the one for me when I look at this job compared to others and Chris Mason sitting here talking to you about politics.
He would say to you when something happens when I try and make sure I don't talk to Secretary of State or I actually get to the prime minister and I asked question the problem with walls.
It's getting to the people who are at the heart of the story.
It's very hard to get to the King and get a direct quote or ask him a question.
That's incredibly frustrating you can't do very easily.
So you have to insure suppose in this brief that you have the contacts and the people in the room who you trust and will give you the right information and guidance that is a big difference talking to.
Is a little bit tricky but I don't think it means we can't journalistic do the story with the same probes Danielle senior royal correspondent on a very well and day off.
Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me on feedback feedback is continuing the annual search for the most outstanding interview from anywhere on BBC audio.
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You've heard that you think makes it interview of the year that we always get plenty of nominations from Radio 4 listeners, but Bruce shortland has put forward a conversation on BBC 6 music between presenter Chris Hawkins and the rap artist Roscoff onions Bruce was impressed by the way that Chris Rock Oscars life story.
Hi, my name's Bruce and I live in Cheshire on the afternoon of Monday the 20th of October on 6 Music Chris Hawkins setting for Craig Charles and interview the rank artist unknown to me by the name of Oscar on you now.
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School turned out to be a bad bad experience for me and I just mainly got bullied because I couldn't speak a word of English by these three kids you I would never in my life and what he thought it was friendship.
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What was impressed by the conversations Chris Hawkins house with all the interviewees so many musicians that use and a gentle stay by inter.
Can you talk about their experiences are We Sink underrated? He is as a broadcast how well you can touch his interview be subject to cover their lives or not.
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