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Sounds music Radio podcasts BBC sounds music Radio podcasts and welcome to feedback, there's been a recent focus on fatherhood across various programmes on Radio 4 and 5 Live which is giving rise to a lot of comment from listeners.

Do this week talking to comedian Darren Harriott I've had his experience of making the series Father figuring on Radio 4.

It's all change for the late night music schedule on BBC Radio Scotland it's a change.

That's left a lot of listeners on happy and the box box has a visit from two people who been listening to the Bruce Springsteen story which is now on The Legend series on BBC Radio 4 and 5 Live been transmitting a rafter programming over the last few weeks all about father and it's something that's really resonated with listeners on.

12th of November the topic was taken up by the Moral Maze should be the role of a father practically emotionally and morally should it be different from that of a mother or not in a world of complex and varied family arrange from Worthing just say really enjoyed last week tomorrow maison.

What should we expect from a father the fascinating subject and I'm not I'm very interesting person and so it's great to hear some alternate opinions on the subject from people with lived experience is different to my own at times.

It was a little broad.

So it would be great to see the focusing on time.

I think I said during the conversation such responsibility emotional processing Society expectations.

This is Dad from Stockport on a father, but I'm not married to and don't think we'd be any better as a family of five married or not male despite.

What about data.

They say the vital gender neutral parenting jobs far as I'm concerned.

Try giving a reminder about these things but still quite disproportionately in the continuing the theme father figuring is a five-part series last last week on Radio 4 in its comedian, Darren Harriott reflected on the meaning of modern fatherhood in short pieces of stand-up running alongside conversations with social scientists psychologists as well as his own family and friends Darren's father took his own life in his 30s while in prison for a drug related conviction classic old skool attitude mentality when I told her I was in therapy and he said was what for himself from prison.

I join the Gang when I was a teenager and now I work as a stand-up comedian.

My name is Parkinson and I'm living in Southport Merseyside

Just wanted to come on and say how moved I was by the Radio 4 programme father figurine by Darren Harry is honest informative and at times funny and a x i say very moving exploration of his anxieties around fatherhood that relate to the tragic loss of his own father by suicide is exactly the sort of work at the BBC does hello.

This is Captain word from Lindfield West Sussex the five-part series of 15-minutes talk shows that our students shouldn't be farthest by Darren Harriott I found it really moving impressive.

It was all kinds of questions about masculinity.

I like the human open approach to the issues.

I did find the quotation at the end of the series really powerful when they said we can make the past define us.

We can have the past refined.

Katie from Bristol and bowled over by his openness about his own story and his quest to find out what a good dad.

Is I love the fact that he drew on the experiences three great dad's secret Trust is Uncle Wray and his friends down and Leon so inspiring to hear dad's talking openly about what it means to be present and available to their children Darren series gives us.

Hope we don't have to pass on the harm done to us and I was moved to tears in the final episode by his message to his mum.

Thank you Darren this is gold dust.

I'll be honest this whole show has been tough on my mum.

This isn't her sort of thing at all.

You know are your dirty laundry in public to the nation on the BBC well Darren Harriott joins me nice response to some more of your thoughts Darren welcome to feedback when you went to make this series and

That your experience is a child was pretty unusual but I wonder if you were surprised by the response that you've had and the way that many listeners really relate to it.

I mean I don't feel that alone.

No I didn't but I was doing the recording and I'm speaking to my uncle and my two friends about their sort of upbringing and shoes with their dad, but then to have some of the listeners and then messages that have from people something.

I've just opened up and you can tell that they haven't been able to open up with many people about this.

I'm in the shop especially with man and talk about the issues with that they might have had with their dad if their Dad wasn't around and then I had that when I was in my teens me and all my friends or six father of my friends Dad wasn't around and dad was a drug addict, and it was the reason why we were all so close as friends.

It was we all had that missing you were bonding over that the program has moments in it when you talk about your relationship with your dad in a stand upset.

No, I mean it's nothing you get comedian remind difficult times in their lives to feel the work, but I wonder if it was hard in this to come and get the town right.

I mean other lines.

You couldn't cross with her everything was that you thought about anything.

I just can't turn into comedy especially my reason I do stand up comedy essentially my dad's death so what I was doing stand-up comedy was definitely lying I definitely trust in the sake of trying to make it funny, but I had to cross those lines to understand how to not cross those lines.

I guess and I will say about this show.

It's so personal for me normal bit of entertainment.

I guess it's it it comes to me as audience first then comedy myself second, where is this it was definitely.

It was the most personal personal bit of work.

I've ever done and I knew that this was something that was going to change my going forward did think about some of the jokes that I did a lot more than I normally would and to be honest.

I never came to me that I was going too far at all.

I think I think I managed to get the right balance and indeed that seems to be reflected in a lot of oil in the comments, but there are some men who listens and felt that fatherhood isn't so clearly defined for example listener Robert not going to like that father and he thought that the series explored that more in Greater detail the program should have made clear there are many reasons for not becoming the dad.

You're not meeting the right person at the right time wrong decision economic hardship partners change of mind complacency.

They can all create unwanted childlessness whatever Darren decide.

I hope it works out for you, but you'll find out more than just one man making the choice.

I'll be honest and thanks very much.

See you for your message to show it never even came into my head because I'm on the beginning what this was going to be of course he is 100% economic hardship finding the right partner being ready to have kids.

Maybe you can't have kids surrogacy adoption all of these different angle 100% valuable reasons why somebody wouldn't have kids wear as we started from the beginning.

I talked about my dad.

It was a journey for me to figure out find out about my own the the reason I have my uncle on my friends as well as can we break the cycle.

Can we break the cycle of bad dads because it was that cycle of having a bad dad that made me not want to have kids.

Wanna be somebody who didn't break that cycle know I know from what you said.

This is very much a personal exploration Barry Johnson another list and also I didn't need to be so much of a defined and father has he points out there many success stories from same-sex parents have to fit into different from women people need to be themselves, Society approved model based on their sex Maybe by the end of this series will come to this conclusion we have to look at the many highly successful child-rearing by same-sex parents to demonstrate that I'm sure if you were to make another series of Father figuring that you might that's a parotid but for now.

I do you think that he's got a point.

I'm I would say I'm on apologetically not sorry for her personal this this five-part.

40 minutes and to me this is very special and the message that I have had from people will always stick with me and I'm so glad that they listened even if they did have their own groups and I could see other angles and disagreeing with what the saying.

It's just we didn't really have that much time to do that but I would 100-percent like to it like to explore my auntie is in the same-sex relationship.

Don't have kids that she would be great to speak to about you know if they did have kids.

You know same-sex parenting.

You know surrogacy adoption.

I would love to die down that as well.

I'm not even sure myself.

I'm in the dark.

You might be something that I look into it as I get older but yeah, they're all really good to hear the comments because they all things that I did could you do that, but we just don't have the time.

Did you actually change your perception or learn more about fatherhood when you were making the series and have you come to anything?

I will tell you what I know.

This is going to sound so basic, but it didn't even occur to me.

This is from speaking to the child psychologist Laverne Antrobus I had a moment when I was told I could have just started crying when I thought to myself speaking to somebody like her when I was 11 when I lost my dad would have completely changed my mind and how I was as a young to speak into Ireland from speaking to her and from speaking to I'm just just on my friend and my family on the show and a campaign Sheila Sheldon that the most important thing is to dress as a dad or as a parent is to be present.

I know that if I do have kids that just being present in every sense of the word is soki soki of course you can talk about you.

Not being a good dad and a bad and good role model of course.

I was important mostly from this.

Just being present with your kids and every sense of the word is so.

Darren Harriott thank you so much for joining me on feedback father figuring is available on BBC signs and if you'd like to comment on anything you've heard on any of his radio stations on Sunday or in the BBC podcast please do get in touch with us the easiest ways to send a voice note using WhatsApp the number is 0345 440 3444 544 and Instagram it's at BBC R4 feedback and you can also send an email to feedback at bbc.co.uk search for feedback click like and subscribe and you get every episode in your PC can listen whenever it suits BBC Radio Scotland is in the midst of some changes.

Morning schedule has recently been revamped and the new lineup for the daily news program.

Good Morning Scotland has been a nice for later this month, but it's the proposed changes to the late night music which has caused the most upset.

I'm writing to complain about BBC Radio Scotland decision to cancel most of its current late night shows particular that you understand show me speak soon to be released album The Blue rock session and broadcaster Late Night radio and will be maybe also agree champion of new music from Scotland and beyond his program is an excellent crafted and presented selection music that can't be found elsewhere on the dial in Scotland or across the UK

In short it is exactly what Public Service Broadcasting should be done with you as usual all the way through till midnight and she'll got me through many weekend back shift or night shift is the times and great music taste will be lost to all Billy Sloan Ian Anderson along with the excellent Roddy Hart they have fabulous musical taste and often support new music more by disappointment.

I will turn into Billy and Ronnie on any new platforms.

Is there shows impact the Scottish economy? I'm a fan of all four shows in listen from Minneapolis I got tons of LPS and travel to gigs in Glasgow and Aberdeen to listen to you and see Scottish act.

Well, hello and welcome to the show it is my pleasure to say that I'm Natasha raskin-sharp and national public service broadcaster like

Scotland should know they Broadchurch that certainly means making changes to make sure it appeals to people all across Scottish Society but surely it should also mean that there is still room standing programs like this one is Tuesday evening show that will still continue to broadcast the Quay sessions with live performances in front of an audience at BBC Vicky in Glasgow you might have recognised the voice of art and antiques expert Natasha raskin-sharp from her money appearances on TV programmes radio show is also going but it's broadcasting veterans Ian Anderson and Billy Sloan leaving BBC Scotland which has really cold backlash.

We did get a statement from a BBC Scotland spokesperson, It's Not Unusual for radio stations to undergo changes particularly in an increasingly competitive audio market and whilst we understand somebody answers may be disappointed it is important.

BBC Radio Scotland continues to evolve it's off BBC Radio Scotland women's proud to showcase the full breadth of Scotland musical Talent from established performers to the next generation of artists across its programming and young traditional jazz and classical musician Awards which run across the Year from another country to BBC introducing Scotland take floor to Vic Galloway specialist music has always been a vital part of what we do and we remain deeply committed to celebrating at in our schedule well join me know is Norman Patterson he came later being a musician picking up a guitar in 2021 and he was supported by Ian Anderson playing his music normally started station to Saviour's program, and I'm also joined by Brian Ferguson arts correspondent for Scotland Herald newspaper.

It's been writing about the changes that are being introduced O'Brien

And changes tend to go together with this move completely of the blue.

I think yes, I know I think I'm some sort was going to be inevitable.

There's been a change to the Saturday which has had a bit of a mix reception, but I don't think anyone really was expecting such a big change in the presumably weren't surprised that it's really upset quite a lot of will definitely before when changes have happened, but it was some of the the specialist presenters in terms of age as Folk classical.

I think it was 23 years ago quite big changes and there was always a mini revolution in Scotland Norman I think this is the first time that you've ever launched a petition.

What's the response team like so far the song writing and band industry in Scotland has really really got behind this and I'm getting personal messages and emails and they're all pretty much saying the same thing.

This happened and when young girls what's left for us.

Tell me a bit about your own association with Ian Anderson Ian Anderson John teal and Johnny Walker that was my three go to guys up until 2020 and never play the guitar never andonova Palace song written on the Facebook and I thought that's brave.

I'm going to give it a go at 3 years down the line.

I'm released albums revolving onion Anderson and other national radio shows the people I know on this industry are one is to get a track played on the end show when we do that all the time we talk to each other about it.

I could only in Anderson last night.

Before he just just finally produced a brilliant autobiography life and times in music in my pretty much as interviews in Scottish pop and rock and Under the Sun I mean no lessons have been taking to social media.

There is a number of comments a couple of them still ataliba will ring news one person writes personality lead easy listening to replace expertly curated new Scottish music who is making me back with decisions and then someone else has each day passes.

I get further away from BBC Radio Scotland I haven't moved an inch that they've moved further away from me listening to Billy Sloan is like listening to the history of contemporary music in Scotland Brian is Scotland going to take these kind of comments on board.

I think you have to try and take people with you in it and explain explain some of the thinking as well, Norman

When the BBC backs down after they've made Changes but often they do stick to their guns.

What are you hoping will come from your petition reading earlier on Anderson's playlist from last night and you play Bruce Springsteen then played me juventus David Carey from Perth play Joe McMahon from Gourock to me some in Anderson independent Scottish artists called over by the effect the petition is having and the commons and getting I'm in total Uncharted water should I don't know it's petitions do or don't make any day if we don't do anything wrong nothing's going to happen Norman tazocin and Brian Ferguson arts correspondent from the Herald thank you very much for coming on feedback, Bruce Springsteen

Totemic figure of American popular music and he's been having a bit of a moment recently the 76 year old has been a subject of a new biopic released in cinemas earlier this year Radio 4 has broadcast a five-part series presented by the music writer Laura Barton called Legend the Bruce Springsteen story it chance his life through five key concert, so what did die-hard followers of the boss make of it well, Christopher Mason from Swadlincote in Derbyshire he listens to a mix of 5 Live radio 2 on and radio for stallwood Victorian you Mark Jones and took the feedback box box to share their thoughts hello, I'm Victoria we're here to talk about Springsteen Legends the Radio 4 Series hi Chris that's what I had to talk about this is legend.

Springsteen story episodes of him to get there on the first the first episode where they went to the opening lines about two types of people only two types of people in this world those who already love scene and those who have yet to see him play light it was the first line of a novel one of the interviewees said he was a nerdy sensitive guy who invented a hence that wasn't the weather is better hench and a muscular Rock God and I love that idea.

By necessity, it's Kim certain thing break covered it covered the main phases of his life and particularly like the concentration of various gigs at certain times in his career found that a great way to post a podcast on it and then suddenly you got these beautiful piano arpeggios and then you had the home.

And then The Voice singing is amazing opening line and the other thing actually loved I think it was Richard Williams said when he was at his best t enter the kind of dream state and he was it was his dream self and I thought that was so that when you're at a Bruce Springsteen concert you all enter that dream with him and it's very compelling a bit like revivalist eventually, there's a great quote.

I don't from an Italian man that was in the last program.

Which was the best in my view what he said you don't go to a Bruce Springsteen concert to find out.

How Bruce's you go to find out how you are.

It was a defining moment in American culture and son fashion the world and United States felt like a different place.

Play Born in the USA which are also following on from recent biopic aren't they how to use it as a patriotic song for quite a while before you know about Vietnam and not that patriotic also he it was part of his reinvention, wasn't it? When he had the breakdown and then he went got a therapist and the therapist told him to work out.

I thought that was very interesting is that I think I don't know I thought that's something.

I miss there because there must have been a stylist as well on this wave of momentum the born in the USA imagery will be coming here buy everything from put icing to a pornographic film born in the USA in the garden Majorca told me that but I've never really come across a before she.

Also brought mentioned the this you whenever is affair with with Patti scialfa, and the fact that was married.

There was a moral dilemma there, so she didn't she didn't hide some of the more moral issues couldn't decide how personal it was a really like the last episode that was my favourite because then she said although she going to concert she didn't even pregnant and I wanted to hear more of actual personal response.

I think I felt she was a bit muted pre-season sea bright New Jersey on the 11th of November 2001 when to hijack planes are flying into the World Trade Center in New York from there.

He can see the plumes of smoke rising from the city until I should have done but I didn't know that the rising is a bit about the Twin Towers and place as well.

I think it's about the Dead firefighters.

What people think Bruce's rollers in their life really and I found it fascinating the the idea that a lot of the people Bruce sings about writes about people actually vote for trump disenfranchise blue collar workers talk about a dream things in Badlands by to make it real story goes on I'd like to take my grandchildren to see him.

I know it's definitely but I saw on social media his one of his son's has become a firefighter and he said he was just started anybody could be of any saying I thought that was pretty wonderful really like that.

So his story does go on he's got I don't know he's got grandchildren yet, but he will surely.

What thank you to Christopher Mason and Victoria new Mark Jones and you can hear Legend Bruce Springsteen story on BBC signs and I'd love to hear from you have anything has caught your attention on any of the BBC nations and regions as well as local BBC Radio we are still open to your suggestions for the feedback interview of the year, but you've got to be quick no clothes at midnight on November 30th and that's all from me for this week.

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