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Will we ever have Freeview Ultra HD or Freesat Ultra HD?

You can already buy Ultra HD television sets in the high street. If I buy one, how long will I have to wait for Freeview and Freesat to broadcast my favourite shows in the better format?

Freeview Ultra HD unofficial  logo.  Photograph: UK Free TV
Freeview Ultra HD unofficial logo. Photograph: UK Free TV
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What is Ultra HD all about?

By increasing the number of picture cells (pixels) on the television screen, the overall watching experience can be enhanced.

There are five things you need to watch in Ultra HD

  • A TV set that can display Ultra HD pictures;
  • A receiver box that can drive a Ultra HD TV set at the full resolution and that can decode the data;
  • A service (online or broadcast) that can provide enough data and
  • The service to have Ultra HD source material.

A TV set that can display Ultra HD pictures

This is actually the easiest bit.    You can pop out to John Lewis today and grab a suitable television set for as little as £649, or as much as £6000.  [1]

For a television set to count as "Ultra HD" is must be able to display pictures at a resolution of 3840x2160 pixels.    As the former number is around four thousands, this is sometimes called "4k TV".

This means each image has 8.3 megapixels (million picture cells) which is four times that of a "Full HD" screen and a massive 20 times a standard definition picture (as found on most TVs).

if this box is Ultra HD then this one is Full HD and this one is standard

A receiver box that can drive a Ultra HD TV set at the full resolution and that can decode the data

The problem with trying to deliver 8 megapixels as moving images is the amount of data created.  It is necessary to move on from MPEG4 compression to a new standard called HEVC (High Efficiency Video Coding)[3].

This means that existing consumer hardware (set top boxes or in-screen hardware) cannot decode HEVC.  Modern computer hardware with an operating system that uses software "codec" may be able to cope, but is processor intensive.

 

A service (online or broadcast) that can provide enough data

This does mean that for broadcast TV this requires a very large amount of bandwidth.    Looking at the current demo service on   ASTRA 28.2°E (see [2]) one single channel is taking 24.6Mb/s.

This compares to around 3Mb/s for standard TV channels and 5.5Mb/s for normal High Definition. 

This really leaves two options at the moment, either single satellite channels per transponder (around 44Mb/s) or via a high speed internet connection.   

Terrestrial transmitters using the DVB-T2 standard provide 40Mb/s.  This means that it unlikely that Freeview Ultra HD will be viable soon.   If good quality Ultra HD using HEVC can work with 13Mb/s you might be able to provide a three-channel Ultra HD service.

In the past a preview service of HD transmissions was first provided from two transmitters (the Guildford mast from July 2008 and Crystal Palace from December 2009) so it is possible that a Ultra HD Freeview preview may happen.  It is also possible that one channel may start using using half of the Com8 multiplex as it is mysteriously empty.[4]

 

The service to have Ultra HD source material.

Given all the above, there is one main issue: who is going to provide the source material?

For new content, it is necessary to record at the higher resolutions and have all parts of the production chain using 4k.   This is quite straightforward for a single high-value event (such as BT football match), but is harder where existing equipment is in use (in say a news studio).  

Existing material created for the cinema is already in higher resolutions (film stock or digital cinema), but will require time and effort to make available.

It is probably worth noting that popular UK shows have only been made in High Definition since around 2011 (say Doctor Who Season 6), many years after the start of the "preview" HD service.  

 

 

[1] http://www.johnlewis.com/browse/electricals/televisions/all-tvs/4k---ultra-hd/_/N-6srfZ1z13rs5?Ns=p_price.extravaganzaPriceListId%7C0

[2] http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=12441&pid=7400&live=69&lang=en

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding

[4] http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=12441&pid=7400&live=69&lang=en



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Comments
Wednesday, 15 August 2018
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MikeB
4:59 PM

Trevor Harris: The BBC can shoot stuff in 4K (Blue Planet, Planet Earth, the World Cup and of course Wimbledon certainly were), but no terrestial transmitter could handle that amount of data without having to remove a great many other services.

The net has always been the way to deliver 4K - at least as far as terrestial is concerned (moving to HD might make it possible for a mux to have a couple of channels, but who knows...), but Sky Q and Virgin have the bandwidth as well. So while you could watch all of the above BBC programmes in 4K via Iplayer at some point (BTW - I get 1080i from Iplayer, which is a lot better than C4), its BT, Virgin, Sky and of course Amazon/Netflix thats making the running with 4K content (and Sky is increasingly wanting you to go down the net route). And I suspect there might be other players - Facebook has apparently paid a large amount of money to stream exclusively a lot of football in India, and they have done the same in the US with another sport.

Freeview is going to be around for a while, even with 4K - there are no bandwidth problems for big events, and the equipment is standard (even in Weymouth, and I say that as someone who is proud of the county they were born in..). And if Freeview isnt enough, there is Freesat etc. Put it this way, people still insist on using LW and VHS....

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Friday, 17 August 2018
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Trevor Harris
4:40 PM

Actually Mike the BBC don't shoot anything in 4K. They use outside companies to do that. Even the Iplayer streams of wimbledon were provided by BBC R&D. As I mentioned before the BBC no longer hosts wimbledon as they could not provide the 4K picures demanded by many broadcasters across the world.

There are bandwidth problems with big sports events. Wimbledon coverage was very limited as was the european sports event. They did manage to put 2 wimledon games in UHD on satellite but they managed to mess it up with very washed out pictures.

Unfortunatly with freesat as far as I know there are no UHD receivers. Probably because no free to air channels have any plans for UHD.

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Trevor Harris
4:44 PM

Mike. I was suprized to read that you get 1080i from iplayer. On a pc if you right click on the screen it will tell you what the resolution is. For me it has always been 720p25.:

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