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Below are all of js's postings, with the most recent are at the bottom of the page.Chris.SE: Another curiosity is the presence in the NIT of two BBC A multiplexes with the same target regions:
BBC A
ONID.TSID = 233A.1045
650 MHz, uhf 43, 8 MHz, 64-QAM, 8k, 2/3, 1/32
Target Regions = (GBR.England.West Midlands)
(
LCN SERVICE NAME
001 BBC ONE W Mid
002 BBC TWO
009 BBC FOUR
201 CBBC
202 CBeebies
231 BBC NEWS
232 BBC Parliament
250 BBC Red Button
601 BBC RB 1
700 BBC Radio 1
701 BBC R1X
702 BBC Radio 2
703 BBC Radio 3
704 BBC Radio 4
705 BBC R5L
706 BBC R5SX
707 BBC 6 Music
708 BBC Radio 4 Ex
709 BBC Asian Net.
710 BBC World Sv.
719 BBC CWR
720 BBC H&W
722 BBC WM
726 BBC Stoke
735 BBC Derby
)
BBC A
ONID.TSID = 233A.1053
514 MHz, uhf 26, 8 MHz, 64-QAM, 8k, 2/3, 1/32
Target Regions = (GBR.England.West Midlands)
(
LCN SERVICE NAME
001 BBC ONE W Mid
002 BBC TWO
009 BBC FOUR
201 CBBC
202 CBeebies
231 BBC NEWS
232 BBC Parliament
250 BBC Red Button
601 BBC RB 1
700 BBC Radio 1
701 BBC R1X
702 BBC Radio 2
703 BBC Radio 3
704 BBC Radio 4
705 BBC R5L
706 BBC R5SX
707 BBC 6 Music
708 BBC Radio 4 Ex
709 BBC Asian Net.
710 BBC World Sv.
719 BBC CWR
720 BBC H&W
721 BBC Shropshire
722 BBC WM
726 BBC Stoke
)
They are, presumably, mutually exclusive?
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Chris.SE: Well, thanks for the compliment Chris, but I don't deserve it. And thanks for correcting the typo:
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
I noticed it as soon as I had posted, but we can't edit our posts.
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Chris.SE: Yes, I'm probably going to lose both Haslingden ch 29 BBC B and The Wrekin ch 30- BBC B on 12th August.
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Chris.SE: Regarding Transport Stream IDs or TSIDs:
I'm not aware of any official list of TSIDs but the tables off com7 and 8 have SDT and EPG for what seems to be every UK multiplex.
Unfortunately, because they are not in the NIT, there are no Target Regions, frequencies, or LCNs for the services on them, so the problem is to discover the transmitters that carry them.
There has never been any frequency data for T2 multiplexes anyway, so no loss there.
Only the PSBs have Target Regions other than GBR.
The BBC ONE service names give the region for BBC A multiplexes.
For D3&4, the EPG data gives the regional ITV local news.
For BBC B, where currently BBC ONE HD is not regionalised, the region is indicated, though perhaps not uniquely, by the ITV HD local news.
This is Com7 National pf.xls (663KB) - the now/next off com7 showing the ITV local news regions:
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This list is from around the time when Com78 National first appeared:
Com78 National 15-01-2018 21 07.txt - Pastebin.com
This is the current list:
Com7 National 29-07-2020 20 44.txt - Pastebin.com
The old list is useful for identifying Local Multiplexes which now have no indication of region or city, for example:
Local Multiplex
ONID.TSID = 233A.800B
(
LCN SID TYPE SERVICE NAME
--- 804B 01 That's TV
--- 82C0 01 Tiny Pop
--- 8380 01 Sony Movies +1
--- 84C0 01 Sony Channel
--- 8500 01 Sony Movies Classic
--- 8540 01 Ideal Extra
)
Local Multiplex
ONID.TSID = 233A.800B
(
LCN SID TYPE SERVICE NAME
--- 804B 01 That's Manchester
--- 8100 01 The Vault
--- 8200 01 POP Max
--- 8240 01 True Crime
--- 8280 01 True Movies
--- 82C0 01 Tiny Pop
--- 8380 01 Sony Movie Channel+1
)
That's the best I can offer you.
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PaulC: Yes, it could be the aerial.
What signal strength and quality do you get for C29, C31, C32, C34, C35, C37 and C55?
Do you have anything on LCN 7 in your channel list?
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R Green: Have you updated your TX-L37E30B to the latest firmware?
Looking at this thread:
Panasonic epg problems
It seems a solution has been found:
"Well after 2 years of just having Now and Next on my Panasonic L42E30B EPG I now have the full 7 day guide back."
Panasonic epg problems
Firmware is here:
Download Information of TV for UK and Ireland | Download | TV | Digital AV | Support | Panasonic Global
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Mike: BBC FOUR timeshares with CBeebies. Retune after 7pm when it is on air and you will gain BBC FOUR but lose CBeebies.
If you get the HD version on your telly, try keeping HDMI leads away from your aerial coax and use a USB extension lead that has a choke to reduce Radio Frequency Interference from your computer.
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The Freesat Streams have been removed from Spotlight TV and BLAZE.
Channel Diffs from 11/08/2020 03:38:17 to 07/09/2020 02:43:30
Changed:
Spotlight TV (50331) 11082H
Number of streams changed from 7 to 2
lost stream, PID = 3843 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
lost stream, PID = 3844 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
lost stream, PID = 3842 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
lost stream, PID = 3840 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
lost stream, PID = 3841 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
BLAZE (50350) 11082H
Number of streams changed from 7 to 2
lost stream, PID = 3843 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
lost stream, PID = 3844 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
lost stream, PID = 3842 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
lost stream, PID = 3840 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
lost stream, PID = 3841 Type = 0x05 : private_sections
Of the Freesat services on 11082H:
807 JewelleryMaker
207 CNN
516 Spotlight TV
162 BLAZE
690 Inspiration TV
203 Al Jazeera Eng
only Spotlight TV and BLAZE are missing the streams.
There seems to have been a change around 3rd September:
https://www.digitalbitrat…=mux
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Paul.: The missing streams are the Freesat Service Information tables, as described in the ASTRA now and next:
<channel name="Spotlight TV">
<service_id value="50331"/>
<events count="2">
<event title="The Irish Music Hour" start="07/09/2020 02:00:00" duration="01:00:00">
<eventID value="1959"/>
<description value="The best of Irelands Music Stars covering all genres."/>
<components count="7">
<component tag="FF" type="03" stream_content="02">
<ISO_639_language_code value="eng"/>
<description value="Audio - Spotlight TV"/>
</component>
<component tag="FF" type="01" stream_content="01">
<ISO_639_language_code value=" "/>
<description value="Video - Spotlight TV"/>
</component>
<component tag="FF" type="05" stream_content="0F">
<ISO_639_language_code value=" "/>
<description value="Data-FSAT-Tunnelled NIT"/>
</component>
<component tag="FF" type="05" stream_content="0F">
<ISO_639_language_code value=" "/>
<description value="Data-FSAT-Tunnelled BAT/SDT"/>
</component>
<component tag="FF" type="05" stream_content="0F">
<ISO_639_language_code value=" "/>
<description value="Data-FSAT-Tunnelled EIT"/>
</component>
<component tag="FF" type="05" stream_content="0F">
<ISO_639_language_code value=" "/>
<description value="Data-FSAT-Tunnelled EIT pf"/>
</component>
<component tag="FF" type="05" stream_content="0F">
<ISO_639_language_code value=" "/>
<description value="Data-FSAT-Tunnelled TOT/TDT"/>
</component>
</components>
</event>
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Tuesday 4 August 2020 5:22AM
Chris.SE:
Well, thanks for that, Chris! Ignorant as I am, I wasn't aware that local multiplexes might be transmitted from relays.
For some reason, I didn't see the Sutton Coldfield transmissions. I bow to your superior knoledge of the network.
After looking around a bit, I discovered that relays have relays that have relays!
But back to The Wrekin, and the service tables off it's frequencies.
The Wrekin doesn't have a parent transmitter but it's service tables belong to Sutton Coldfield.
Makes no sense to me.