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Below are all of js's postings, with the most recent are at the bottom of the page.Freesat Diffs:
Sky Arts launched on Freesat 147:
Comparing files List Freesat 17-09-2020 11 01.txt and List Freesat 17-09-2020 13 01.txt
************************ CHANGED ************************
SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
Bouquet Change
Sky Arts 1 20026 5752 2019 2 12071H 0 1 Freesat 1EEE1EEE1EEE 147
Sky Arts 1 20026 5752 2019 2 12071H 0 1 Freesat 111111111111 147
Service ID Change, Schedule Flag Change, Transponder Move
talkSPORT 2 21008 10238 2054 2 10906V 0 1 Freesat 111111111111 731
talkSPORT 2 21008 52188 2097 2 11582H 0 0 Freesat 111111111111 731
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Chris.SE: Well, the Mendip Coms soon went but I managed to grab some transport stream samples and read the SI tables out of them while they were up.
I also did a CrazyScan spectrum at the tail end of it:
tropo ImgBB
The image is of the active tropo scan - coloured red - followed by a scan made tonight, followed by a superimposition of the two that shows the difference.
Com7 appears as an undecodable lump of carrier at 746 MHz in the top scan.
The Hisense telly still reported C55 as 86% strength with zero quality.
The s/n of BBCB, on 586 MHz, at 27dB, was down from 35dB - presumably due to CCI from Mendip.
The Mendip SDN peak at 690 MHz is impressive.
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Freesat Diffs:
Transponder moves for some ITV HD regional variants - with a change in modulation:
From:
11097 V 23000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK
ITV HD [ITV1 HD London]
ITV HD [ITV1 HD South East]
ITV HD [ITV1 HD Mid West]
To:
12168 V 27500 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK
ITV HD [ITV1 HD Mid West]
12363 V 27500 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK
ITV HD [ITV1 HD London]
ITV HD [ITV1 HD South East]
Comparing files List Freesat 22-09-2020 11 01.txt and List Freesat 22-09-2020 13 01.txt
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SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
Service ID Change, Transponder Move
ITV HD 25 10005 21000 2066 2 11097V 0 1 Freesat 000011001100 111,1965
ITV HD 25 10005 5106 2034 2 12363V 0 1 Freesat 000011001100 111,1965
Service ID Change, Transponder Move
ITV HD 25 10011 21020 2066 2 11097V 0 1 Freesat 000010001000 111
ITV HD 25 10011 5107 2034 2 12363V 0 1 Freesat 000010001000 111
Service ID Change, Transponder Move
ITV HD 25 10012 21030 2066 2 11097V 0 1 Freesat 000010E010E0 111
ITV HD 25 10012 5109 2024 2 12168V 0 1 Freesat 000010E010E0 111
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The 8PSK modulation parameter change is from 23000 3/4 to 27500 2/3. It will be interesting to see how Freesat devices cope. Pick (HD) had this modulation but there were no reports of any problems. There have been reports of problems in the past of Panasonic TVs in particular, and currently LG, having problems with ITV HD.
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Robert Fillery: Do any of these work on your Grundig?
144 Pick
145 Pick +1
146 Challenge
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ASTRA/BSkyB Diffs:
Three ITV HD services have Changed Transponder, moving from 11097V.
The ASTRA EIT pf Component Descriptions identify them as:
ITV Mrdn East HD
ITV1 Cntrl West HD
ITV1 London HD
The ITV HD remaining on 11097V is ldentified as "ITV 1 Yorks W HD"
The transmission parameters have also changed and are shown below:
Comparing files List ASTRA 25-09-2020 18 00.txt and List ASTRA 28-09-2020 11 01.txt
************************ CHANGED ************************
SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
Service ID Change
5106 25 1006 5106 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1033
5106 25 1006 21000 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1033
Renamed, EPGID Change, Bouquet Change, LCN Change
5106 25 1006 5106 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1033
ITV HD 25 6504 5106 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 110101010101011 176, 803
Service ID Change
5107 25 1007 5107 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1034
5107 25 1007 21020 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1034
Renamed, EPGID Change, Bouquet Change, LCN Change
5107 25 1007 5107 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1034
ITV HD 25 6502 5107 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 010101010101010 176, 803,1344
Service ID Change
5109 25 1039 5109 2024 2 12168V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1032
5109 25 1039 21030 2024 2 12168V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1032
Renamed, EPGID Change, Bouquet Change, LCN Change
5109 25 1039 5109 2024 2 12168V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1032
ITV HD 25 6503 5109 2024 2 12168V 0 1 BSkyB 010101010101010 176, 803,1345
Service ID Change, Transponder Move
ITV HD 25 6502 21020 2066 2 11097V 0 1 BSkyB 010101010101010 176, 803,1344
ITV HD 25 6502 5107 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 010101010101010 176, 803,1344
Service ID Change, Transponder Move
ITV HD 25 6503 21030 2066 2 11097V 0 1 BSkyB 010101010101010 176, 803,1345
ITV HD 25 6503 5109 2024 2 12168V 0 1 BSkyB 010101010101010 176, 803,1345
Service ID Change, Transponder Move
ITV HD 25 6504 21000 2066 2 11097V 0 1 BSkyB 110101010101011 176, 803
ITV HD 25 6504 5106 2034 2 12363V 0 1 BSkyB 110101010101011 176, 803
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ASTRA EIT pf Component Descriptions:
SERVICE NAME EPGID TSID SID Component Description
ITV HD 1044 2066 21040 ITV 1 Yorks W HD
ITV HD 6502 2034 5107 ITV Mrdn East HD
ITV HD 6503 2024 5109 ITV1 Cntrl West HD
ITV HD 6504 2034 5106 ITV1 London HD
STV HD 1167 2024 4071 HD STV Dundee
STV HD 1168 2024 4068 HD STV Aberdeen
STV HD 1170 2034 4070 HD STV Edinburgh
Video Bitrate (Mbps) sampled at 35 <= dPCR <= 35 ms intervals over 17 seconds for 11097.00 V 23000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK (28/09/2020 12:08:48)
maximum | minimum | average | service_name
13.917 | 04.658 | 08.631 | ITV HD
08.347 | 03.442 | 05.479 | ITV3 HD [ENC]
39.463 | 28.736 | 33.747 | Null Packets
02.961 | 01.463 | 02.227 | All Other Streams
50.084 | 50.084 | 50.084 | TS Bitrate
Video Bitrate (Mbps) sampled at 30 <= dPCR <= 60 ms intervals over 16 seconds for 12168.00 V 27500 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK (28/09/2020 12:44:08)
maximum | minimum | average | service_name
05.709 | 03.906 | 04.701 | SkyPremiereHD [ENC]
04.957 | 04.145 | 04.601 | Sky Family HD [ENC]
06.741 | 03.545 | 04.988 | Cartoon Net HD [ENC]
06.847 | 05.158 | 05.814 | Sky Thriller HD [ENC]
05.263 | 04.344 | 04.829 | Cops&RobbersHD [ENC]
08.039 | 05.248 | 06.542 | STV HD (4068) [ENC]
08.105 | 05.338 | 06.661 | STV HD (4071) [ENC]
08.565 | 05.428 | 06.589 | ITV HD
04.163 | 00.848 | 02.031 | Null Packets
07.320 | 05.472 | 06.475 | All Other Streams
53.231 | 53.230 | 53.230 | TS Bitrate
Video Bitrate (Mbps) sampled at 30 <= dPCR <= 60 ms intervals over 16 seconds for 12363.00 V 27500 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK (28/09/2020 12:44:31)
maximum | minimum | average | service_name
08.047 | 06.092 | 06.848 | ITV HD (5107)
09.719 | 08.103 | 08.709 | NickelodeonHD [ENC]
09.264 | 06.790 | 08.127 | GOLD HD [ENC]
08.323 | 06.017 | 07.023 | ITV HD (5106)
07.067 | 06.136 | 06.548 | alibi HD [ENC]
08.730 | 06.841 | 07.465 | STV HD [ENC]
04.348 | 02.492 | 03.511 | Null Packets
05.948 | 04.098 | 04.999 | All Other Streams
53.230 | 53.230 | 53.230 | TS Bitrate
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ASTRA/BSkyB Diffs:
Four HD services, each currently showing ITV HD, were put on 11097V. Note 21010 was already present as an entry in the Service Description Table (SDT) entry for TSID 2066:
Comparing files List ASTRA 28-09-2020 18 01.txt and List ASTRA 29-09-2020 18 01.txt
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SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
21015 25 1209 21015 2066 2 11097V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1020
21070 25 1217 21070 2066 2 11097V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1026
21080 25 1219 21080 2066 2 11097V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1031
Video Bitrate (Mbps) sampled at 34 <= dPCR <= 36 ms intervals over 21 seconds for 11097.00 V 23000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK (29/09/2020 15:28:19)
maximum | minimum | average | service_name
16.508 | 04.549 | 07.734 | 21015
15.969 | 03.651 | 08.085 | ITV HD
10.750 | 02.472 | 05.188 | ITV3 HD [ENC]
14.162 | 04.392 | 07.709 | 21070
14.039 | 03.813 | 07.704 | 21080
15.460 | 03.780 | 07.839 | 21010
02.622 | 01.025 | 01.794 | Null Packets
04.782 | 03.224 | 04.029 | All Other Streams
50.083 | 50.082 | 50.083 | TS Bitrate
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I usually use the Service Information (SI) tables off a BBC transponder, but it shouldn't matter as all transponders on ASTRA normally carry the same SI.
Having recorded a TS sample off 11097V for the Bitrate analysis, I happened to read the SI out of it and found that the SDT off it is missing an entry for TSID 2044.
Thus no service names are available, using the SI off 11097V, for the services on:
10758.50 V 22000 5/6 DVB-S QPSK 28.2E TSID = 2044
{
ITV [ITV1 London]
ITV2
CITV
ITV4
ITV4+1
ITVBe
ITVi Stream 44
ITV [ITV1 Granada]
ITV [ITV1 Anglia East]
ITV+1 [ITV1+1 Anglia]
ITV [ITV1 Central West]
ITV+1 [ITV1+1 SE]
}
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Freesat Diffs:
Five new ITV HD regional variants were added to the Freesat test region:
Comparing files List Freesat 02-10-2020 18 01.txt and List Freesat 05-10-2020 11 01.txt
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SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
ITV HD 25 01042 21080 2066 2 11097V 0 0 Freesat 000010001000 181
ITV HD 25 01043 20820 2064 2 11068V 0 0 Freesat 000010001000 182
ITV HD 25 01044 21015 2066 2 11097V 0 0 Freesat 000010001000 183
ITV HD 25 01045 21010 2066 2 11097V 0 0 Freesat 000010001000 184
ITV HD 25 01046 21070 2066 2 11097V 0 0 Freesat 000010001000 185
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Thursday 17 September 2020 6:48AM
Now getting perfect reception of all three Mendip Coms on C48, C33 and C36.
Com7 is completely gone.