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I have Sky+, what happens when I cancel my contract?

I have Sky+, what happens when I cancel my contract?

I have Sky+, what happens when I cancel my contract?
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If you cancel your contract with Sky the Sky+ box will revert to the function of a normal Freesat from Sky (fSfS) satellite receiver - no PVR facilities and only a single tuner.

The different channels you get on Freesat/fSfS and Freeview can be seen here:

https://ukfree.tv/channels/all/

Please don't use a loft aerial, they don't work with Freeview. You need a rooftop aerial for reliable reception.

Loft aerials - ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002

To find which direction to point your aerial, please see:

Find out how to receive Freeview - ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002



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Friday, 8 March 2013
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jb38
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9:41 PM

Peter Thompson: The card cannot block reception as such as the box can work without the card, but as far as no signal is concerned did you run the coax back to a spare port on the dishes LNB or was the connection already there? because what you have reported suggests that there is either a fault in the coax cable being used or the "F" connectors on each end of, or possibly that the spare port on the dish is defective, or even that the box you are using is defective, and so for purposes of elimination you should test it out on the dish feed thats used by your main box.

Further advice dependant on reply.



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Peter Thompson
9:50 PM

I have connected the old box downstairs and receive the free channels but upstairs Im connecting via built in Ariel socket not made for f connectors but i got a cable that connects to the wall socket and the box. Tho its only connecting to one dish input on the sky box but it suld still work?? I connected it to one of the wires in the loft that's coming from the dish to my sky box downstairs but it won't work, any ideas? Thanks

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Saturday, 9 March 2013
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jb38
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12:19 AM

Peter Thompson: If the upstairs socket is not made for "F" connector use then its not suitable for satellite reception, and likewise is liable to cause a short circuit to the dish control control voltages sent "out" from the Sky boxes LNB "F" sockets if connected into them.

I feel that you are possibly being mixed up with the wires that you refer to in the loft which are possibly used for normal reception via an aerial, sometimes being fed into a Sky boxes "normal" aerial socket to pass through the box and onto a normal TV in another room so that Freeview can be viewed as well as the Sky signal sent out from RF1/2, as its unusual for a coax cable from a Sky box to be found anywhere in the loft unless just passing through it en-route to the dish wherever it might be installed.

The best way to understand it is that a coax cable from a Sky box LNB1 (or 2 in the case of Sky+) has to be continuous from the box to the dish and not pass through anything unless specifically designed for satellite use, nor can a satellite feed be split in the same way as is usual with Freeview systems via a normal aerial.

By the way is the dish you refer to yours? and not one used in a communal system, also if only one input feed is being used then it has to be connected into the boxes LNB1 and the box adjusted for single feed operation, this done via the menu.

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Peter Thompson
5:00 PM

If i connect the second hand box to LNB 1 on the dish and move the downstairs box dish connectors to another 2 connections on the LNB will the up stairs box receive the free channels and my sky box downstairs receive my sky subscription, as long as i have a full connection to the upstairs box without using the wall Ariel socket?
Im making this sound complicated lol hope u kinda no what Im trying to say
thanks

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jb38
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7:37 PM

Peter Thompson: All ports on a Quad(?) LNB operate completely independent of each other and so it doesn't really matter which ones you use to feed the boxes, and so if you run a satellite grade coax from your upstairs boxes LNB socket (LNB1 if a Sky+ box) directly to "any" of the dishes LNB ports then yes! you will be able to receive the free channels.

The other point being, in a satellite system every box is independent of each other because each has its own feed from the dish, and so the easy way to remember it is that a Sky box and an LNB port work entirely on their own irrespective of what the other LNB ports are being used for, as some people uses a Freesat recorder box on two ports and a Sky+ on the other two, or alternatively four different Sky (standard) boxes each with their own port.

By the way, is the subscription card that you refer to for the purpose of viewing Sky package channels? or are you meaning the £20.00 free channels viewing card? as the standard £20.00 viewing card only really enables a few (and only that) additional "free to view" but encrypted channels to be viewed as well as enabling you to have the correct local news service for your area, otherwise the default news area is London.

Finally, is any of your boxes Sky+?

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Mazbar
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8:03 PM

jb38: not quiet true one output can interfere with another I have had it happen

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Peter Thompson
8:47 PM

Both r sky+ HD boxes. So cause i was using a built in coax cable wall bracket (as my house is already wired for coax Ariel) from my sky box to the dish its not working? So if i take the bracket off and connect the cable to the box and the dish it suld work? I don't really see how that would effect the signal, cause as i said before it works downstairs with the other boxes connections. I thought as long as the it had connections from the dish to the box it suld work, am i wrong?
thanks again

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Mazbar
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8:58 PM

Peter Thompson: so what you are saying is the coax in the wall goes into the loft out and straight to the dish not to the sky box downstairs

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Peter Thompson
9:25 PM

Yes mate but i bought a cable with a f connector and a coax connection so it goes from the box to the coax wall bracket then to the dish but it won't work do i need to take the bracket off and just connect the wire straight to the box? This has been wrecking me for ages lol
Thanks

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jb38
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11:32 PM

Peter Thompson: The problem that's liable to be experienced if attempting to use sockets or cables intended for use with normal terrestrial reception for satellite purposes is that there is always the possibility of a small (not much larger than a match head) ceramic blocking capacitor having being fitted somewhere in line, although its usually positioned behind the wall plate, and with its purpose being to block any stray voltages from equipment being used from travelling along the coax to other devices or vice-versa.

As Sky boxes send both DC voltages and a high frequency tone to the LNB for polarity switching and band changing functions the aforementioned capacitor would block these functions (at least the voltage) and kill reception, this why its not advisable to do that unless each end of a "continuous" run of coax is accessed, plus of course that normal coax cable is not really designed to be used with a higher frequencies associated with the down lead from an LNB.

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