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Ofcom moves to protect Freeview interference from 4G mobile devices

Don't worry - Ofcom will ensure that everyone effected by 4G interference will still be able to watch digital television, and at no cost to the affected viewers.

Don't worry - Ofcom will ensure that everyone effected by 4G in
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Ofcom has estimated it will cost £100m to deal with Freeview users who are located near to the transmitters for the next generation of mobile broadband services, which will use the frequencies (791 to 862 MHz) previously used for analogue television.

Once switchover is complete, over 10 million homes in the UK will use Freeview for their only television reception, and almost all of the remaining 17 million homes will use the terrestrial digital television service on their secondary TV sets.

The signals are provided from two types of transmitter. First there are around 80 high power transmitters located on hills that serve very large areas, such as the Crystal Palace transmitter (4.5 million homes in London), Winter Hill (2.7 million homes in the North West of England) and Sutton Coldfield (1.8 million homes in Birmingham). In addition there will be over 1,000 fill-in Freeview light transmitters, such as Boddam, which serves just 600 homes.

In contrast, the new 4G mobile services will use around 9,000 smaller transmitters located near where the services are required, which follows the current model for mobile phone networks.

4G transmitter interference location

In places where the 4G transmitter is located close to homes receiving Freeview, it is likely that Freeview viewers will experience to forms of interference:

Signal overload - when a Freeview receiver is overloaded because the total input signal level is more than a certain level, the whole receiver will stop working and all television services will be lost.

Signal-Interference Noise Ratio degradation: this is where reception breaks down because the receiver can no longer decode the digital information in the transmission. This could affect a single multiplex or could take out all services.

The "overload zone" will occur for Freeview viewers located close to the 4G transmitter, with the "degradation zone" will affect those slightly further from the 4G transmitter:



Interference factors

Not all 4G transmitters will cause problems for Freeview reception, the other factors are:

The types of Freeview installation, with single unamplified aerials to a single set have the best resilience, with communal and systems with amplifiers more likely to suffer. The 4G transmissions are capable of overloading most types of TV amplifier.

The frequencies used for the DTT services being received, with those on the adjacent C60 being worst, C52 to C59 second worst and those on lower frequencies having the best chance of avoiding interference.

The strength of the Freeview signal received is another factor, with those with weaker signals due to being distant from the Freeview transmitter, having the most potential for 4G interference.

Not all 4G transmitters will use the same frequency, those that happen to use the lower frequency allocation having the most potential to cause Freeview interference, and those that transmit at higher power levels having more effect than low power 4G transmitters.

Homes affected by 4G interference without intervention

Ofcom calculate that:

Of the 16.3 million UK homes with a standard (unamplified, unshared) Freeview reception, 110,000 (0.67%) would be effected.

Of the 5.2 million homes using communal aerials systems, 550,000 (10.6%) will have problems.

Of the 5.6 million homes using amplified Freeview reception, 100,000 (1.8%) will experience problems.

Prevention and mitigation

There are several ways to deal with these 760,000 homes that will have problems.

Signal filters

Use of signal filters for the Freeview reception combined with Fitting of filters at 4G transmitters.

Ofcom's modelling finds that this is the most effective way of dealing with the 4G interference problems. Of the 110,000 standard Freeview installation homes, 87,000 will have their reception restored this way, almost 100% of the 550,000 homes with communal systems will be mitigated with filtering and 93% of the 100,000 domestic installations with amplifiers.

The total cost will be £20m for the Freeview filters and £33m for fitting of the filters in homes. Also, for the domestic filtering to be effective, the 4G providers will also have to spend around £11 fitting filters at the 4G transmitters when they are being installed.

Freeview equipment adjustment

After the provision of filters, there will still be 23,000 homes with unamplified and 7,000 homes with amplified Freeview reception equipment that are unable to receive their services.

Some of these homes will simply need a new Freeview box for each TV set. Whilst these boxes cost around £15, the requirement to fit these and provide for each set could come to as much as £200.

Another option, for at least 20% of homes, is to receive the Freeview services from an alternative transmitter. However, this could lead to the provision of the 'wrong' version of BBC One, BBC Two, ITV1 and Channel 4/S4C to the home. Ofcom is unsure if this will be an effective mitigation.

On Channel Repeaters

The use of On Channel Repeters (OCR) to rebroadcast the Freeview signals at higher power levels in the interference area was considered by Ofcom, but the high cost and unknown effectiveness has caused them to be distrgarded as a viable option.

Ensure 4G polarization is opposite to Freeview polarization

Because of several factors, Ofcom does not consider that this will help prevent 4G interference of Freeview reception.

4G transmitter power reduction

Ofcom have concluded that causing service reception problems for the new 4G mobile services is undesirable for the services to be successful.

Provision of Freesat or free Virgin Media services for affected homes

This leaves providing a replacement Freesat installation (including multiple sets and Freesat+ boxes) for the 30,000 homes with their Freeview reception disabled, or the funding of a basic Virgin Media package. The total cost for this is £10m.

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Comments
Friday, 7 December 2012
Dave Lindsay
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10:37 AM

Michael: Unless EE is broadcasting illegally on the 800MHz spectrum, which hasn't yet been auctioned, then its new 4G service isn't likely to affect your TV reception any more than the current 2G/GSM services operating at 1800MHz. EE has been allowed to use some of its 1800MHz allocation for current 4G services. The prospective interference of 4G signals with TV reception is not because they are 4G, but because they will use 800MHz which is just above that of TV.


Digital TV reception requires a good quality signal, which is all the digits present and correct. The quality does not increase once the lower threshold of the signal level has been reached. There is also an upper threshold over which the receiver is fed with too much signal and hence where it becomes unstable. Its signal strength meter will become unreliable and quality is likely to suffer just as sound gets distorted when the volume is turned up too much on a hifi.

Signals levels vary a little over time due to factors such as the weather and objects that may reflect or otherwise affect the signal at/to the receiving aerial. For this reason it is good practice to have the signal level somewhere between the lower and upper thresholds such that a bit of variance isn't likely to cause it to fall below the former or push it over the latter.

As you have an amplifier, the likely course of action would be to either remove it completely or reduce its level. The 2dB insertion loss may be what has restored your reception rather than filtering out channels other than those in Group A.

Signal meters on receivers vary, but somewhere around 75% strength may produce a reliably good quality signal.

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Briantist
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11:14 AM

Dave Lindsay: Indeed. The new 4G signals will effect television reception as much as the 2G signals they replaced. Ofcom | Notice of proposed variation of Everything Everywheres 1800 MHz spectrum licences to allow use of LTE and WiMAX technologies has the details.

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Briantist
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11:19 AM

... and 'Sitefinder' Mobile Phone Base Station Database shows that there is only one very transmitter on the CP site using 1800MHz and it's at a weedy 26 dBW!

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Sunday, 10 February 2013
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emma
1:08 AM
Sutton Coldfield

Hi
My TV lost all signal and channels last weekend at approx. 1am on the Saturday. Checked all the connections, aerial, changed the aerial, retuned but nothing worked. Then it came back on on its own at approx 5pm. Then again next day was not working came back on at approx same time. It worked fine all week and then Friday night 1am approx TV lost all its channels then without doing anything picked up signal again at aprrox 5pm. Then lost all channels/signal at 1 am - this is now second weekend in a row. Phoned up helpline and was told someone may have a device that is blocking signal (as live in four block of flats) and very close to transmitter (8km) but who turns on devices at 1am -5pm on weekends only??! Have had no problems with TV before since owned it, always had very clear picture and reception.
Any help would be much appreciated!

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jb38
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8:05 AM

emma: Have you checked with your neighbours to find out if they are also experiencing this problem? although the other point I am not sure about is, when you referred to changing your aerial are you meaning the jumper lead from a wall plate to the TV or are you using an indoor aerial? because if its the jumper lead then is your flat fed by a communal aerial? if it is then there is a possibility that the electrical supply to the distribution amplifier that feeds the flats is accidentally getting switched off during night time as its on the same circuit as say communal lighting.

Another point being, you should refrain from re-tuning your TV if you find that the screen is blank, because retuning on a blank screen generally results in the channels already stored in the tuners memory being wiped out, because in the majority of cases although the screen is blank the channels will still be stored in the memory but are being received under the level that can resolve a picture, and so if you find a blank screen carry out a signal strength test on the programme channel selected and see if any level is being indicated.

Maybe you could give an update on the points mentioned.

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KMJ,Derby
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11:03 AM

emma: Is there a pirate radio station in the block of flats?

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Neil Killip
3:21 PM
Market Harborough

I have been looking for a reason why, when switching on we get a degraded picture and "no signal" on all chnnels . After about 10 minutes everything is ok. I have a n outside aerial with a mast head amp plus a distribution amp in the loft.
Since switchover everything has been fine until 2 or 3 weeks ago. I have checked everything exept the amplifiers and can find nothing wrong.
I have now read the stuff on G4 interference. Could this be the cause? My post code is LE16 8RQ and we receive from Waltham.
Or could it be a problem with the Panasonic TV that goes when the set is warmed up?
I would be grateful for any ideas


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jb38
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4:49 PM

Neil Killip: Irrespective of the apparent time factor involved, checking on the signal levels expected in your area does not indicate Waltham as being the best station to use as good reception is only shown as being possible from the BBC and ITV transmitters, HD and the SDN mux (ITV3 etc) indicated as variable and with ArqA being poor, ArqB not being possible at all, whereas Sandy albeit being far further away indicates good reception on all channels.

Checking the terrain predictor indicates that the signal path from Waltham starts being affected from roughly 8 miles away but severely through obstructions from just under 5 miles, and although the proverbial pinch of salt has always to be taken with predictors the problem you have reported is in line with what would be expected, i.e: erratic reception.

Although your Waltham facing aerial is a bit off being 180 degrees from Sandy you should try going into your Panasonic's tuning menu / manual tune and enter Sandy's BBC on Ch27 but do NOT press search, as the signal levels received should immediately be seen on the indicator bars, note what it is and then enter Ch51 Sandy's ITV3 etc on the SDN mux, likewise noting the level and giving an update on the results.


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Monday, 11 February 2013
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Lesley
12:12 PM
London

is my home being affected by the 4G signal? i share a communal aerial and for the past few weeks i can only watch BBC channels. i have no new equipment in my home to interfere with my signal and my landlord assures me the arial is working

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