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StevensOnln1: Yes, that's the right answer to the wrong question.
What I meant was: does the list include all the Local Multiplexes? How many Comux Local Multiplexes are there?
There are three Comux Local Multiplexes emanating from Winter Hill:
Local Multiplex
ONID.TSID = 233A.8008
754 MHz, uhf 56, 8 MHz, QPSK, 8k, 3/4, 1/32
Target Regions = (GBR.England.North West)U(GBR.Isle of Man)
(
LCN SID TYPE SERVICE NAME
007 8048 01 Made In Liverpool
060 8240 01 True Crime
075 8100 01 The Vault
207 82C0 01 Tiny Pop
208 8200 01 POP Max
791 8280 01 True Christmas
)
Local Multiplex
ONID.TSID = 233A.800B
754 MHz, uhf 56, 8 MHz, QPSK, 8k, 3/4, 1/32
Target Regions = (GBR.England.North West)U(GBR.Isle of Man)
(
LCN SID TYPE SERVICE NAME
007 804B 01 That's Manchester
060 8240 01 True Crime
075 8100 01 The Vault
207 82C0 01 Tiny Pop
208 8200 01 POP Max
791 8280 01 True Christmas
)
Local Multiplex
ONID.TSID = 233A.800D
754 MHz, uhf 56, 8 MHz, QPSK, 8k, 3/4, 1/32
Target Regions = (GBR.England.North West)U(GBR.Isle of Man)
(
LCN SID TYPE SERVICE NAME
007 804D 01 That's Lancashire
060 8240 01 True Crime
075 8100 01 The Vault
207 82C0 01 Tiny Pop
208 8200 01 POP Max
791 8280 01 True Christmas
)
The descriptors referencing other TSIDs than 8008, 800B and 800D are extraneous to Winter Hill.
Only these are relevant to Winter Hill:
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8008.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.800B.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.800D.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
The descriptors are present in the SDT entry for True Christmas on Arqiva B.
Arqiva B is apparently the same in all regions so the descriptors appropriate for all regions need to be present in and for that multiplex.
Arqiva B
ONID.TSID = 233A.6040
746 MHz, uhf 55, 8 MHz, 64-QAM, 8k, 3/4, 1/32
Target Regions = (GBR)
(
LCN SID TYPE SERVICE NAME
018 6440 01 4Music
019 64C0 01 Yesterday
022 6540 01 Ideal World
025 6D60 01 Home
031 6500 01 5Spike
035 6E80 01 QVC Beauty
036 6E60 01 QVC Style
039 6C60 01 CBS Action
042 6C20 01 Travel Channel
047 6A20 01 4seven
062 6CE0 01 True Christmas
071 6C80 01 CBS Drama
073 6D20 01 YourTV+1
076 6A00 01 Jewellery Maker
078 6A40 01 Sewing Quarter
079 6DC0 01 Dave ja vu
084 6D80 01 Quest Red+1
206 6B20 01 POP
234 6B40 01 RT
672 6B80 01 ADULT smileTV2
674 6D00 01 ADULT Babestn
698 6F68 01 698
699 6BC0 01 ADULT Section
711 67C0 02 The Hits Radio
712 69A0 02 KISS FRESH
713 6640 02 KISS
714 6880 02 KISSTORY
715 6800 02 Magic
716 6680 02 heat
717 66C0 02 Kerrang!
718 6700 02 Smooth Radio
725 6E00 02 Premier Radio
731 6600 02 Classic FM
732 65C0 02 LBC
)
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woz: I had a look at the site you linked to.
I think TSIDs are probably arbitrary within an ONID.
It would be nice to get a complete picture of the terrestrial network.
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woz: The same kind of thing happens with the HD Simulcast Linkage descriptors in the EIT.
On UK DVB-T, only BBC and Channel 5 are currently using these 'Also in HD' descriptors.
Eleven BBC B TSIDs are referenced by Channel 5.
Ten BBC B TSIDs are referenced by BBC ONE N West.
Just one BBC B TSID 40BE, is referenced by BBC ONE Wales, so that must be the TSID of BBC B for Wales.
Two com7 TSIDs, A000 and A001, are referenced by BBC FOUR.
Here are some examples:
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Channel 5, Thu 16 Nov 17:00 - 17:30 : 5 News At 5
National and international news.
Linkage: 233A.4082.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.4083.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.4084.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.4085.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.4088.4540 = Channel 5 HD, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.4089.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.408E.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.40BB.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.40BC.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.40BD.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
Linkage: 233A.40BE.4540 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = 765F
MPEG-2 video, 16:9 aspect ratio without pan vectors, 25 Hz (und)
MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio, stereo (2 channel) (eng)
crid = /V3MPALX, Type : 31 (item), crid = /RGXT, Type : 32 (series)
eventID = 765F, RST = 0, ONID.TSID.SID = 233A.200B.2134, default_authority = www.five.tv, 778 MHz, uhf 59
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BBC ONE Wales, Thu 16 Nov 23:45 - 00:30 : This Week
Andrew Neil reviews the political week with Michael Portillo and guests. Also in HD. [S]
Linkage: 233A.40BE.44BE = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
MPEG-2 video, 16:9 aspect ratio without pan vectors, 25 Hz (eng)
MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio, stereo (2 channel) (eng)
DVB subtitles (normal) with no monitor aspect ratio criticality (eng)
crid = /5AI2W9, Type : 31 (item), crid = /MH680Q, Type : 32 (series)
eventID = AD9A, RST = 0, ONID.TSID.SID = 233A.107E.107E, default_authority = fp.bbc.co.uk,
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BBC FOUR, Thu 16 Nov 23:00 - 23:45 : Handmade in Hull
A visually stunning tribute to Hull's craft traditions, produced in collaboration with artist Linda Brothwell as part of Hull City of Culture 2017. Also in HD. [S]
Linkage: 233A.A000.A010 = BBC FOUR HD, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = E991
Linkage: 233A.A001.A010 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = E991
MPEG-2 video, 16:9 aspect ratio without pan vectors, 25 Hz (eng)
MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio, stereo (2 channel) (eng)
DVB subtitles (normal) with no monitor aspect ratio criticality (eng)
crid = /247LOO, Type : 31 (item)
eventID = E991, RST = 0, ONID.TSID.SID = 233A.1048.11C0, default_authority = fp.bbc.co.uk, 706 MHz, uhf 50
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BBC ONE N West, Thu 16 Nov 23:45 - 00:30 : This Week
Andrew Neil reviews the political week with Michael Portillo and guests. Also in HD. [S]
Linkage: 233A.4082.4484 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.4083.4484 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.4084.4484 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.4085.4484 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.4088.4484 = BBC ONE HD, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.4089.4484 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.408E.4484 = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.40BC.44BC = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.40BD.44BD = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
Linkage: 233A.40BE.44BE = not_found, event_simulcast, target_listed, target_event_id = AD9A
MPEG-2 video, 16:9 aspect ratio without pan vectors, 25 Hz (eng)
MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio, stereo (2 channel) (eng)
DVB subtitles (normal) with no monitor aspect ratio criticality (eng)
crid = /5AI2W9, Type : 31 (item), crid = /MH680Q, Type : 32 (series)
eventID = AD9A, RST = 0, ONID.TSID.SID = 233A.1048.1048, default_authority = fp.bbc.co.uk, 706 MHz, uhf 50
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Dorothy Bunsee: There's a report at the top of the page now:
"SALISBURY transmitter - Freeview: BBC Digital TV Off Air; DSO related from 09:26 today,"
It doesn't say when it's coming back though.
I thought we'd done DSO already.
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ASTRA/BSkyB Diffs:
Last diffs for the week:
Khushkhabri returned to 0151.
10775 was added to 11642H.
11642H was added to the NIT on 23-08-2017 with these parameters:
11641.50 H 23000 2/3 DVB-S2 8PSK 0.25 028.2E :TSID = 2101
It is yet to be switched on.
The last time we had a transponder at 11642 it was vertically polarised with True Movies, Scuzz etc. on it.
That was Eurobird. This is ASTRA.
I think there were problems with DECT phone interference that led to True Movies moving to its current transponder at 11307V.
Comparing files List ASTRA 07-11-2017 18 01.txt and List ASTRA 10-11-2017 18 01.txt
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SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
EPGID Change, Bouquet Change, LCN Change
Khushkhabri 2 0000 9563 2095 2 11553H 0 0 BSkyB 000000000000000
Khushkhabri 2 3383 9563 2095 2 11553H 0 0 BSkyB 111111111111111 3151
Renamed, LCN Change
Sky DramaRom 1 1816 5502 2012 2 11934V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 310
Sky Christmas 1 1816 5502 2012 2 11934V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 302
LCN Change
Sky Prem+1 1 1823 4405 2012 2 11934V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 302
Sky Prem+1 1 1823 4405 2012 2 11934V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 310
Renamed
Chilled 90s 1 3682 55114 2095 2 11553H 0 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 370
NOW XMAS 1 3682 55114 2095 2 11553H 0 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 370
Renamed
Sky DraRomHD 25 4016 3816 2024 2 12168V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 337
Sky ChristmsHD 25 4016 3816 2024 2 12168V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 337
Renamed
Ahomka RD 2 4156 52090 2105 2 11224H 0 0 BSkyB 111111111111111 3185
GN Radio 2 4156 52090 2105 2 11224H 0 0 BSkyB 111111111111111 3185
************************ NEW ************************
SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
10775 1 0000 10775 2101 2 11642H 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000000
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Freesat Diffs:
Freesat 4K was deleted.
Heart TV was renamed Heart Xmas.
Comparing files List Freesat 14-11-2017 11 27.txt and List Freesat 14-11-2017 13 01.txt
************************ CHANGED ************************
SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
Renamed
Heart TV 1 09002 55111 2095 2 11553H 0 1 Freesat 111111111111 506
Heart Xmas 1 09002 55111 2095 2 11553H 0 1 Freesat 111111111111 506
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SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
Freesat 4K 31 00107 7400 2038 2 12441V 0 0 Freesat 00001111E000 998
Freesat 4K 25 00108 7401 2038 2 12441V 0 0 Freesat 000000001111 998
BIKE 1 03016 52290 2109 2 11307H 0 0 Freesat EEEEEEEEEEEE
Test 1 SD 1 20091 10040 2049 2 10832H 0 0 Freesat 100010001000 858
Test 2 HD 25 20092 10000 2049 2 10832H 0 0 Freesat 000010001000 859
The Freesat NIT was updated because of these deletions:
Lost:
10832.25 H 22000 3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK 0.25 028.2E :TSID = 2049
12441.00 V 29500 8/9 DVB-S2 QPSK 0.25 028.2E :TSID = 2038
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Don: Al Jazeera Eng is on 11082H.
11082H is the weakest transponder used by Freesat.
The slightest bit of rain might be enough to reduce the S/N ratio below that required.
About 6dB S/N is needed. I get 7dB S/N, here in Salford, on a clear day.
The strongest transponder is 10964H, which carries Channel 5, with 15.9dB S/N.
Here are the Freesat services carried on 11082H:
11082.25 H 22000 5/6 DVB-S QPSK:
LCN service_name
162 BLAZE
203 Al Jazeera Eng
208 Bloomberg TV
516 KEEPITCOUNTRY
690 Inspiration TV
807 JewelleryMaker
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ASTRA/BSkyB Diffs:
GN TV has launched on BSkyB 291.
GN TV: "Afro Carribbean oriented, urban, diverse and cosmopolitan Family Channel, established to provide a wholesome mix of entertaining, educative and informative, programmes suitable for family viewing."
Comparing files List ASTRA 10-11-2017 18 01.txt and List ASTRA 16-11-2017 11 01.txt
************************ CHANGED ************************
SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
Renamed
Sky Greats 1 1815 5650 2012 2 11934V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 304
Sky Superhero 1 1815 5650 2012 2 11934V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 304
Renamed, Bouquet Change, LCN Change
53525 1 3687 53525 2098 2 11597V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1014
GN TV 1 3687 53525 2098 2 11597V 0 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 291
Renamed
Sky Greats HD 25 4015 3815 2024 2 12168V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 331
Sky SuprheroHD 25 4015 3815 2024 2 12168V 1 1 BSkyB 111111111111111 331
************************ DELETED ************************
SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
55410 25 0000 55410 2099 2 11612H 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000000
10775 1 0000 10775 2101 2 11642H 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000000
7000 1 1118 7000 2010 2 11895V 1 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1017
3905 25 3832 3905 2020 2 12090V 1 1 BSkyB 000000000000010 1023
************************ NEW ************************
SERVICE NAME TYPE EPGID SID TSID ONID FREQ.P ENC EIT PROVIDER BOUQUETS LCN
17129 1 0000 17129 2101 2 11642H 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000000
55227 1 0000 55227 2112 2 11343V 0 1 BSkyB 000000000000000
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Don: If news is your thing, it might be best to scan the channels in non-Freesat mode.
These Free-To-Air HD news channels ought to be on Freesat but aren't:
11509V 23000 8PSK DVB-S2 2/3
TRT World HD
11612H 23000 8PSK DVB-S2 2/3
Al Jazeera HD
11686V 23000 8PSK DVB-S2 2/3
Bloomberg HD
11671H 22000 QPSK DVB-S 5/6
CNN HD
You can find out what's where, here: Astra 2E / Astra 2F / Astra 2G (28.2
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Wednesday 8 November 2017 7:46AM
Get a load of the current contents of the Service relocated descriptor from Winter Hill:
Relocated Services: North West
Format:
service_name relocated from ONID.TSID.SID (OldMultiplexName) to ONID.TSID.SID (NewMultiplexName)
TJC relocated from 233A.3005.3824 (SDN) to 233A.5040.5A20 (Arqiva A)
TJC relocated from 233A.3006.3824 (SDN) to 233A.5040.5A20 (Arqiva A)
TJC relocated from 233A.3007.3824 (SDN) to 233A.5040.5A20 (Arqiva A)
TJC relocated from 233A.3008.3824 (SDN) to 233A.5040.5A20 (Arqiva A)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8001.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8002.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8003.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8004.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8005.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8006.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8007.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8008.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8009.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.800A.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.800B.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.800C.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.800D.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.800E.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.800F.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8010.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8012.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8013.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8014.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8019.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.801A.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.801B.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.801F.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8025.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8026.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8027.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.8029.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.802A.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.802B.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.802E.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
True Christmas relocated from 233A.802F.8280 (Local Multiplex) to 233A.6040.6CE0 (Arqiva B)
Is that all or just some of the Local Multiplexes?