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The symbol shows the location of the Wrexham Rhos (Wrexham, Wales) transmitter which serves 29,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Wrexham Rhos (Wrexham, Wales) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Wrexham Rhos transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 V max
C28 (530.0MHz)257mDTG-80W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) Wales, 2 BBC Two Wales, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 14 others

PSB2
D3+4
 V max
C22 (482.0MHz)257mDTG-80W
Channel icons
5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 South ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (Wales), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 V max
C25 (506.0MHz)257mDTG-80W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD Wales, 102 BBC Two HD Wales, 104 Channel 4 HD South ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 110 Channel 4 HD (Wales), 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Are you trying to watch these 44 Freeview channels?

the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels

The Wrexham Rhos (Wrexham, Wales) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: U&Yesterday, 4seven, 5Action, 5STAR, 5USA, Al Jazeera Eng, Al Jazeera English, Blaze, Blaze +1, Challenge, Channel 5 +1, DMAX, E4 Extra, YAAAS!, Film4 +1, Food Network, FRANCE 24 (in English), GREAT! action, GREAT! christmas, GREAT! movies, GREAT! romance mix, HGTV, HobbyMaker, ITV2 +1, ITV3 +1, ITV4 +1, ITVBe +1, Legend, PBS America, Quest +1, Quest Red, Really, Sky Mix, Sky News, Talking Pictures TV, That's 90s, That's TV 2, Together TV, TRUE CRIME, TRUE CRIME XTRA, U&Dave, U&Dave ja vu, U&Drama +1, U&W.

If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Wrexham Rhos transmitter?

regional news image
BBC Wales Today 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 2YQ, 176km south (185°)
to BBC Wales region - 206 masts.
regional news image
ITV Cymru Wales 1.2m homes 4.7%
from Cardiff CF5 6XJ, 180km south (186°)
to ITV Wales region - 206 masts.

How will the Wrexham Rhos (Wrexham, Wales) transmission frequencies change over time?

1984-971997-981998-20092009-1331 Mar 2019-
K TK TK TA K TA K T
C22D3+4D3+4
C25C4wavesC4wavesC4wavesBBCBBBCB
C28BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBCABBCA
C32ITVwavesITVwavesITVwaves
C39BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1waves

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 28 Oct 09 and 25 Nov 09.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 200W
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-4dB) 80W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Moel-Y-Parc transmitter area

Sep 1962-Jul 1964Wales (West and North) Television (Teledu Cymru)
Jul 1964-Jul 1968Television Wales and the West
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Harlech Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Wrexham Rhos was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Thursday, 9 February 2012
Dave Lindsay
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2:29 PM

DJP: ITV1 HD does not necessarily provide the same regional feed as ITV1 standard definition does because there are only four ITV1 HD feeds nationwide. For example, in Yorkshire we get ITV1 HD Granada. I'm not sure which one transmitters in Wales carry.

What's the make and model number?

Go to BBC One (standard definition) and bring up the signal strength page. What UHF channel is it tuned to? And again for ITV1 standard definition? And same goes for BBC One HD?

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Dave Lindsay
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2:31 PM

DJP: I've just seen your posting after I posted my latest message.

Good to hear that you fixed it. It might be worth writing down what you did as it might help when you come to retune at a later date.

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DJP
3:29 PM
Wrexham

Dave, I think all the Welsh transmitters carry ITV HD Central.

It looks as if I've got a hybrid of both Winter Hill and MYP with regard to the channels I'm getting. BBC 1 SD is on channel 45, ITV Wales, S4C and Channel 4 are on channel 49, whilst BBC 3 and 4 along with the majority of all other channels seem to be coming from Winter Hill. BBC 1 HD and S4C Clirlun are on channel 42 whilst BBC HD is channel 54.

Ironically, I don't seem to be picking anything up from channels 28, 22 & 25 which are the Wrexham Rhos channels, yet I'm only about 3 miles away from the transmitter and can see the mast clearly from the street, as it's on the opposite mountain !!!

Don't know what I did as such, just selected the auto tune again.

Once again thanks for your help and advice.

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Dave Lindsay
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3:56 PM

DJP: Your aerial should be vertical for Wrexham Rhos and horizontal for Moel y Parc or Winter Hill. It may work to a certain degree, but if you're getting nothing from Wrexham, then I am wondering if your aerial is horizontal.

Be aware that Wrexham is not a full service Freeview transmitter, which means that if you do use it, you need to use Winter Hill or Moel y Parc for them.

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Dave Lindsay
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4:07 PM

DJP: You have a choice. You can leave it as it is or you can try for Moel y Parc, re-aligning your aerial on it.

You should be aware that the commercial (COM) channels from Moel y Parc are at half transmission power with respect to the Public Service Broadcaster (PSB) ones and that this will always be the case. Also be aware that Ch48 (Pick TV etc) may be subject to a reactive power decrease to half its full power until 24 October 2012.

What this means is that you might find that Moel y Parc COMs are unreceiveable and its PSBs are, even if you adjust the aerial so that it faces it. Should this be the case, then what you have now might be the best you can get without getting an exterior aerial and/or a higher gain one.

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Friday, 10 February 2012
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hilary gregory
4:43 PM

We live in north Bolton BL7 area and yesterday the BBC picture began to pixelate badly around 6pm then BBC disappeared altogether from our screen. Weak or no signal was displayed on all BBC channels for the remainder of the night. This morning we switched on BBC working as normal. Was it the ice?

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Steve P
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5:42 PM

hilary - quite possibly.

Have a looki on your home page - Winter Hill i presume - others may have same.

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Tuesday, 22 May 2012
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jacqui
10:14 AM

Hi, I can only get about 20 channels on my freeview now. I live in wrexham so have signal from the rhos site. I used to et over a hundred channels before the switchover. My ariel is on the roof but no matter how much i retune i cannot get certain channels at all. what can i do to get more channels.

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Dave Lindsay
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11:37 AM

jacqui: Before switchover the Wrexham Rhos transmitter did not carry Freeview. This means that you must have been receiving it from another transmitter that did. Furthermore, it is likely that the transmitter that you were receiving from was in its pre-switchover mode and therefore lower transmission power (and hence weaker signals) than it uses now (after switchover).

All transmitters that provided Freeview signals before switchover provide the full range of channels after switchover. Ones that did not provide any Freeview before switchover (such as Rhos) broadcast only Public Service channels after switchover (they are sometimes described as "Freeview Lite"/"Freeview Light" transmitters). I assume that you only have the Public Service channels tuned which provides the following services (in Wales): BBC, ITV1, ITV1+1, ITV2, Channel 4, Channel 4+1, S4C, More 4, Channel 5 and the four HD services.


Without knowing your exact location, it is difficult to be quite certain, but in your general area, signals from the Winter Hill transmitter come in well. Winter Hill situated near Bolton and is the main transmitter that serves a large area of North West England. Due to the topography, it be can picked up in parts of North Wales.

What I suggest that you do is attempt tuning of the Commercial channels (the ones that aren't broadcast from Rhos) from Winter Hill. What you do is dependent on the design of your receiver:

1. If it allows manual tuning, then try tuning to UHF channels (equivalent to frequencies) 58, 61 and 55 which are those which Winter Hill broadcasts the Commercial services on.

2. If it does not have manual tuning, then what you can do is more limited. Run the automatic tuning scan with the aerial unplugged up to 60% if its scale shows percentage progress (or if it gives UHF channels as it is scanning, plug it in at C50).

The objective here is to avoid picking up signals from Rhos (which are lower than 60%) and scan Winter Hill channels. This will obviously give you BBC North West and ITV1 Granada from Winter Hill, but the point is more as a test to see what can be received from Winter Hill. See if ITV3, Pick TV and Yesterday are present on logical channel numbers 10, 11 and 12 respectively. For each, bring up the signal strength screen and check to see what UHF channel they are each tuned to. They should read 58, 61 and 55 respectively if they are from Winter Hill.


It may be that the Commercial channels can no longer be picked up with your aerial as it is due to the change in transmission mode which will have a detrimental affect in poor reception circumstances. The fact that your aerial is pointing in the wrong direction and is vertical, whereas Winter Hill's signals are horizontal is clearly reducing your chances.


The objective of the above is to see whether you can pick up some level of service on the Commercial channels (those that you're missing), if for whatever reason, the automatic tuning is missing them out, what with the signals from Rhos presumably being a lot stronger.

If you didn't follow the above, then in short, you "may" be able to receive all Freeview channels and Wales regional programming with a second aerial, probably on Winter Hill.

With the above, I can probably be more specific with knowledge of the make and model of device that you are using, along with your location, preferably in the form of a post code or nearby post code (e.g. shop).

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Stephen P
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12:52 PM

jacqui - need your postcode to know what you should be receiving!

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