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The symbol shows the location of the Saltdean (Brighton and Hove, England) transmitter which serves 1,500 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Saltdean (Brighton and Hove, England) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Saltdean transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 V -1.9dB
C41 (634.0MHz)64mDTG-326W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) South East, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, 601 BBC Red Button, plus 15 others

PSB2
D3+4
 V max
C44 (658.0MHz)64mDTG-340W
Channel icons
3 ITV (SD) (Meridian (South Coast micro region)), 4 Channel 4 (SD) South ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 South ads, 18 More4, 24 ITV4, 33 ITV +1 (Meridian south coast),

PSB3
BBCB
 V max
C47 (682.0MHz)64mDTG-640W
Channel icons
74 Shopping Quarter , 101 BBC One HD (England no regional news), 102 BBC Two HD (England), 103 ITV HD (ITV Meridian Southampton), 104 Channel 4 HD South ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 204 CBBC HD, plus 1 others

DTG-3 64QAM 8K 2/3 24.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-6 256QAM 32KE 2/3 40.2Mb/s DVB-T2 MPEG4
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Are you trying to watch these 51 Freeview channels?

the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels

The Saltdean (Brighton and Hove, England) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: 4Music, 4seven, 5SELECT, 5STAR, 5USA, Aljazeera English, BBC Four HD, BBC News HD, Blaze, Blaze +1, CBeebies HD, CBS Drama, CBS Justice, CBS Reality, Together TV +1, Challenge, Channel 5 +1, CITV, Dave, Dave ja vu, DMAX, Drama, E4 +1, Film4 +1, Food Network, Forces TV, FreeSports, HGTV, Horror Channel, ITV2 +1, ITV3 +1, ITV4 +1, ITVBe +1, More4 +1, NOW 80s, Paramount Network, PBS America +1, pick, Quest +1, Quest Red, Quest Red +1, Really, RT HD, Sky Arts, Sky News, Smithsonian Channel, Sony Movies Action, Talking Pictures TV, TCC, Together TV, Yesterday +1.

If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Saltdean transmitter?

regional news image
BBC South East Today 0.8m homes 3.2%
from Tunbridge Wells TN1 1QQ, 41km north-northeast (28°)
to BBC South East region - 45 masts.
regional news image
ITV Meridian News 0.9m homes 3.6%
from Whiteley PO15 7AD, 86km west (274°)
to ITV Meridian (South Coast) region - 39 masts.
All of lunch, weekend and 50% evening news is shared with all of Meridian plus Oxford

How will the Saltdean (Brighton and Hove, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1984-971997-981998-20122012-1316 Oct 2019
EEEC/D E TB E K T
C41BBCA
C44D3+4
C47C4wavesC4wavesC4wavesBBCB
C51tv_offBBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1waves
C54tv_offD3+4
C55tv_offITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCA
C58tv_offBBCB
C66BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2waves

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 7 Mar 12 and 21 Mar 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

D3+4, BBCB 40W
BBCA(-1.9dB) 26W
Analogue 1-4(-4.6dB) 14W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Whitehawk Hill transmitter area

Aug 1958-Jan 1992Southern Television
Jan 1982-Dec 1992Television South (TVS)
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Meridian
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Saltdean was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Tuesday, 24 April 2012
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Peter Barnard
3:45 PM

exactly which channels should I get from the SALTDEAN transmitter?
Among those I don't get are Film 4, Dave, Really, Yesterday ITV4 plus several others
Rooftop aerial, Sony Bravia TV, Toshiba Freeview recorder.
Bit of a let down so far.

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Dave Lindsay
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4:02 PM

Peter Barnard: See the top of the page.

You get Public Service channels only which are BBC TV and radio, ITV1, ITV1+1, Channel 4, Channel 4+1, E4, More 4, Channel 5 and the four HD channels.

If you are lucky, you may be able to receive from a main station such as Heathfield so as to get the full service when it switches over in June.

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Jon
8:27 PM
Brighton

so will saltdean ever receive all of the freeview channels ??


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Dave Lindsay
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8:50 PM

Jon: The Saltdean transmitter will never transmit the Commercial channels as their operators do not wish to do so and this is the case in nearly 1,100 similar sites in the UK. See Will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice

The only possible way to get the channels is if they can be received from a station that carries them. Those being Whitehawk, Rowridge and perhaps Heathfield (which switches in June).

I had a look on Google Streetview and spotted an aerial on Whitehawk on a house on Ashdown Avenue.

Numbers 34 and 36 Chorley Avenue also have aerials on Whitehawk (photos taken March 2009). The former's aerial is below the top of the roof of the latter.

Both of these are bungalows which, by their very nature, have their aerials lower down that houses. So if they can get it, then it should raise hopes that others might do.

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Peter Barnard
11:34 PM

Bit of a con then. Why was this information not on the heaps of leaflets and information we were given?
Our freeview installation was to give an alternative to the free sky satellite, but, with such a limited service it was a waste of money. Thankfully we still have the dish etc

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Wednesday, 25 April 2012
Dave Lindsay
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12:51 AM

Peter Barnard: I sympathise. This is private enterprise doing what it does best; serve its own interests.

Whilst, as far as I know, the Freeview literature carries in the small print something along the lines of "subject to coverage", I do not believe that it makes clear that some channels are only available in most areas, or even better, that certain areas receive only restricted channels.

Freesat is a possibility and there is a comparison of channels available on Freesat versus those on the full Freeview service:

Compare Freeview and Freesat-from-Sky TV | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice

ITV3 is available on Freesat.

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Friday, 21 September 2012
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Andy
11:43 AM

Hi,

Recently, I received a messsage on screen telling me that new channels were available and advising me to retune.

I retuned (wiped out channels and used first time install). After scanning, I was surprised to find that I was picking up BBC1 as a very weak and poor quality signal signal on Channel 60, previously I was receiving a very strong signal (and high quality signal) on Channel 55.

I deleted Channel 60 and manually scanned Channel 55 and regained the original strong and high quality signal.

The only explanation I can think of is that my tv scanned the and found the highest channel for BBC1 (60) and then did not scan further for other BBC1 channels. In other words, it looks like the TV searches for the higher channel number. Am I correct?

Incidently, I could not see any new channels after the rescan!

Thanks.

Best wishes.

A

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Dave Lindsay
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1:05 PM

Andy: I've re-read the exchanges that you have had previously with myself and others.

BBC on C60 is from Whitehawk. C55 is from Saltdean, as you have gathered.

Some changes to Freeview logical channel numbers (LCNs) took place on Wednesday:

Freeview channel numbers change on September 19th 2012 | ukfree.tv - 10 years of independent, free digital TV advice

Others were due to also take place on that day, but due to two channels disputing the change, these will either be cancelled or postponed:

Updated - changes to Freeview channel numbers this week on September 19th 2012 | ukfree.tv - 10 years of independent, free digital TV advice

One such channel is Sky News which has gone to court. Briantist has said that the reason is because viewers will have to enter three digits instead of two to get to it. This is a bit rich given that all channels on Sky's satellite service are three digits anyway!


If you are receiving from Saltdean, then you will not have available the Commercial (COM) channels which include Sky News. The HD channels were due to move to 10x numbers, but this doesn't seem to have happened. So in actual fact there were probably no changes for the PSB channels and therefore no changes to the services broadcast by Saltdean.


As you were receiving BBC on C60 from Whitehawk with the aerial facing the wrong way, then we must wonder whether you could receive a full service from it on a reliable basis. This would give you the COM channels which Saltdean does not transmit.

See this page for the six multiplexes (each is a separate signal), three of which are PSB and three, COMs:

DTG :: DTT Services by Multiplex

The only reason you may not have good reception from Whitehawk is because of the high ground at Rottingdean on and immediately behind Westmeston Avenue.

It may be worth noting that the effective transmission power of Whitehawk is greater on all six digital channels than it was on the former analogue, so it is expected to reach parts that it didn't before.

If I were you, I would be investigating the possibility of reception from Whitehawk in order to receive all channels.

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Andy
3:03 PM

Thanks for responding.

Reception from Whitehawk is of very poor quality. Moving the aerial is not an option. In any event, no one around me gets reception from Whitehawk.

Hence, I use the saltdean transmitter.

My reason for posting was to ask why on re-scanning I received the poor quality 60 (Whitehawk), rather than the high quality 55 (Saltdean).

I deleted the 60 (far too blocky), and manually re-scanned for 55 (high quality).

Best wishes.

A

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Dave Lindsay
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3:22 PM

Andy: Having scanned, some receivers go with the first signals that were found. As yours has gone with the highest then obviously this isn't the cause.

I'm not an RF professional, but the best logical explanation I can give you is that "if" it has picked up the three COMs from Whitehawk, then "maybe" it has chosen to go with PSB1 (BBC) from Whitehawk because it matches it closer from a strength point of view.

You will know if you have tuned the three COMs because there will be [10]ITV3 (which is carried on COM4), [11]Pick TV (COM5) and/or [12]Dave (COM6) present.


As Whitehawk and its relays switched over in March, then prior to that there was probably no chance of it being received at your location. Thus, only from then onwards would there be any benefit in receiving from it (rather than Saltdean), if indeed it is available. So if no one has taken that step to investigate the possibility ?EUR" maybe some aren't aware ?EUR" then everyone will continue to use Saltdean.

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