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The symbol shows the location of the Ladder Hill (Derbyshire, England) transmitter which serves 6,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Ladder Hill (Derbyshire, England) mast?

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Which Freeview channels does the Ladder Hill transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 V max
C26 (514.0MHz)452mDTG-200W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) North West, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 17 others

PSB2
D3+4
 V max
C23 (490.0MHz)452mDTG-200W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (Granada), 4 Channel 4 (SD) North ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 North ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (Granada),

PSB3
BBCB
 V max
C29 (538.0MHz)452mDTG-200W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD North West, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV Granada), 104 Channel 4 HD North ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Are you trying to watch these 44 Freeview channels?

the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels
the effected channels

The Ladder Hill (Derbyshire, England) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: 4seven, 5Action, 5STAR, 5USA, Al Jazeera Eng, Al Jazeera English, Blaze, Blaze +1, Challenge, Channel 5 +1, Dave, Dave ja vu, DMAX, Drama +1, E4 Extra, YAAAS!, Film4 +1, Food Network, GREAT! action, GREAT! movies, GREAT! romance mix, GREAT! romance, HGTV, HobbyMaker, ITV2 +1, ITV3 +1, ITV4 +1, ITVBe +1, Legend, PBS America, Quest +1, Quest Red, Really, Sky Mix, Sky News, Talking Pictures TV, TCC, That's 90s, That's TV 2, Together TV, TRUE CRIME, TRUE CRIME XTRA, W, Yesterday +1.

If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Ladder Hill transmitter?

regional news image
BBC North West Tonight 3.1m homes 11.8%
from Salford M50 2QH, 29km northwest (310°)
to BBC North West region - 92 masts.
regional news image
ITV Granada Reports 3.1m homes 11.6%
from Salford M50 2EQ, 29km northwest (310°)
to ITV Granada region - 80 masts.

How will the Ladder Hill (Derbyshire, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1984-971997-981998-20092009-1331 Mar 2018-
A K TA K TA K TA K TA K T
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesD3+4D3+4
C26BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBCABBCA
C29C4wavesC4wavesC4wavesBBCBBBCB
C33BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1waves

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Nov 09 and 2 Dec 09.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000W
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Winter Hill transmitter area

May 1956-Jul 1968Granada Television†
May 1956-Jul 1968Associated British Corporation◊
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Granada Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Ladder Hill was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Tuesday, 25 September 2012
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jb38
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11:19 PM

Parsley: To give you an idea of the directions of the various transmitters the ones referred to are as follows / Emley Moor: 31 degrees @ 22 miles (H polarity) Winter Hill: 310 degrees @ 31 miles (H polarity) Sutton Coldfield: 175 degrees @ 51 miles (H polarity) Chinley: 271 degrees @ 0 miles (V polarity) Ladder Hill: 195 degrees @ 3 miles (V polarity) It should also be appreciated that when receiving signals that are predicted as being either not possible or alternatively out of range, that the the levels received can change dramatically within every few yards or so, and so a person on one side of a street can have virtually no signal at all whereas a house facing them on the other side of the street can have a reasonably strong enough signal to resolve a picture. Of course as aforementioned in previous reply this type of reception is generally prone to being affected by both atmospheric and seasonal changes, such as tree vegetation and ground reflections.

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jb38
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11:27 PM

Parsley: Yes, if you are viewing a channel and want to know what its Mux number is for cross checking purposes, carry out a signal strength / quality (on some) check and you will generally see the mux channel number associated with the level being indicated.

By the way if you are experimenting its best to use ITV3 then you know that you are not receiving from Chinley or Ladder Hill.

ITV3 muxes from various being /

Winter Hill: Ch58
Emley Moor: Ch51
Sutton Coldfield: Ch42

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Wednesday, 26 September 2012
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Jim Johnson
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12:47 AM
Nottingham

Parsley,
Ask your neighbour which local news service they receive on BBC1 and ITV1. That will give you an idea of which transmitter they are receiving their signals from.

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Parsley
7:34 AM
High Peak

Thanks for that very useful info.
re transmitter -could it be Fenton?

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jb38
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9:30 AM

Parsley: In areas such as these I would think its extremely unlikely unless the signal was being reflected from some object, which of course will not be shown on any charts, as the coverage limits of Fenton in its extremities is only indicated as being possible in a patchy (very!) fashion to the left of Buxton.

I did also mean to say that with regards to the ITV3 channels mentioned, these were indicated along the lines of a manual tune being used to test if any signal was possible, as on the majority of Freeview devices if "manual" tune is selected and the channel number entered into the box, as soon as this is done the level the signal is being received at will immediately be shown on the scale, there is "no" need to scan the channel.

This procedure uses the receivers tuner to act purely like a signal meter, but though because of this even although a signal might well be seen it could be under the reception threshold of the set to resolve a picture, and as such if scanned nothing might be captured, so this should always be kept in mind.

I should also say that its appreciated not all Freeview TV's and boxes allow manual tuning, and some Sony TV's scart scanning as soon as the channel number is entered.

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Dave Lindsay
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9:52 AM

Parsley: Use of this terrain plotter would tend to suggest that it isn't Fenton!

Terrain - shows radio profile between two UK sites to optimise you DTT, Freeview, DAB or analogue TV reception

Convert your postcode to an OS Grid Reference: SK037826

Put that in as that of the "base" station and select region and transmitter.

Shining Tor is in the way and it is 300m higher than the top of the transmitter.

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Dave Lindsay
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10:01 AM

Parsley: jb38 mentioned reflections. I wonder if your installer was swinging the aerial around to see if there are any reflections from Winter Hill which is why he had the aerial facing the wrong way.

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Thursday, 27 September 2012
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Parsley
10:05 PM
High Peak

Well my quick experiment found only Freeview Lite again from the southerly direction, but my aerial is much smaller, so not conclusive.

Dave L: 'fraid not - he insisted repeatedly that Winter Hill was in that SE direction! Didn't inspire confidence, but i wouldn't have cared which transmitter it was if he had found a signal.

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Friday, 28 September 2012
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jb38
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12:05 AM

Parsley: Winter Hill is located near Bolton and so your aerial installer was mistaken when he made that comment as its roughly N/W of you.

Regarding your experiments, you will always "have" to use manual tuning for these type of tests as your local station will always take precedence over anything you are trying to receive, plus don't forget that the aerial has to be positioned horizontally for reception of anything other than the two local relay stations, namely Chinley and Ladderhill.

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KMJ,Derby
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6:48 PM

Parsley: A couple of points that might be of interest. Firstly Chinley is a relay of Ladder Hill. A check on the reception predicted for the postcode of the relay mast shows no mention of Winter Hill, although in practice the receive aerial on a relay mast could, if necessary, be sited considerably higher than that expected for predicted reception! I also tried your postcode for radio reception. This gave Holme Moss for FM, but interestingly Sutton Coldfield was suggested for DAB.

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