Full Freeview on the Bilsdale (North Yorkshire, England) transmitter
Brian Butterworth first published this on - UK Free TV
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The symbol shows the location of the Bilsdale (North Yorkshire, England) transmitter which serves 570,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.
This transmitter has no current reported problems
The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Bilsdale (North Yorkshire, England) transmitter._______
Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
Which Freeview channels does the Bilsdale transmitter broadcast?
If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Bilsdale transmitter?
BBC Look North (Newcastle) 1.6m homes 6.0%
from Newcastle NE99 2NE, 74km north-northwest (336°)
to BBC North East and Cumbria region - 70 masts.
ITV Tyne Tees News 1.4m homes 5.4%
from Gateshead NE11 9SZ, 75km north-northwest (333°)
to ITV Tyne Tees region - 47 masts.
All of lunch, weekend and 50% evening news is shared with Border
Are there any self-help relays?
Garsdale (pin Fold) | Transposer | 63 homes (coverage together with SH34) | |
Hawsker Bottom | Active deflector | 150 caravans | |
Langthwaite | Active deflector | 30 homes |
How will the Bilsdale (North Yorkshire, England) transmission frequencies change over time?
1984-97 | 1997-98 | 1998-2012 | 2012-13 | 13 Nov 2019 | |||||
A K T | A K T | A K T | K T | W T | |||||
C21 | BBCB | ||||||||
C23 | C4waves | C4waves | C4waves | BBCB | |||||
C24 | _local | D3+4 | |||||||
C26 | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | BBCA | |||||
C27 | BBCA | ||||||||
C29 | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | D3+4 | |||||
C30 | _local | ||||||||
C31 | com7 | ||||||||
C33 | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | ||||||
C35 | C5waves | C5waves | |||||||
C37 | com8 | ||||||||
C40 | ArqB | ArqB | |||||||
C43 | SDN | SDN | |||||||
C46 | ArqA | ArqA | |||||||
C55tv_off | com7tv_off | ||||||||
C56tv_off | COM8tv_off |
tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 12 Sep 12 and 26 Sep 12.
How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?
Analogue 1-5 | 500kW | |
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB | (-7dB) 100kW | |
SDN, ARQA, ARQB | (-10dB) 50kW | |
com7 | (-14.3dB) 18.5kW | |
com8 | (-14.4dB) 18.1kW | |
Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C* | (-19.2dB) 6kW | |
Mux 1* | (-20.2dB) 4.8kW | |
Mux D* | (-24.9dB) 1.6kW |
Local transmitter maps
Bilsdale Freeview Bilsdale DAB Bilsdale AM/FM Bilsdale TV region BBC North East and Cumbria Tyne TeesWhich companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Bilsdale transmitter area
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Is the transmitter output the same in all directions?
Radiation patterns withheldWednesday, 13 November 2019
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Chris.SE7:18 PM
4wd:
Hmm, that's not good. My personal experience with Arqiva is that they don't readily admit to problems, it's possible the work is still ongoing if things haven't gone smoothly, but it would be a good idea to look at your predicted reception, but we need a full postcode for that.
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4wd10:24 PM
Its Westerdale but I aren't putting up a postcode.
Reception is good here as we aren't behind the hill, don't even need an aerial outside.
I don't see how shuffling channels around can make half of them go on low power unless they've reduced it for some reason
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Chris.SE11:56 PM
4wd:
Well that's up to you. Freeview's Coverage Checker does not work on place names or partial postcodes. But looking at the area in general you should get good reception of the 6 main muxes (not the best I've seen but nevertheless good), whilst COMs 7&8 are going to be variable to poor, next year in particular, as other transmitters finally move their COMs 7&8 to the SFN channels of 55&56.
I did say I assume you have a wideband aerial and you haven't said you have, only that it's not outside.
So I think therein lies your problem, indoor or loft aerials can be affected by all sort of things apart from roof tiles, worse when wet, water tanks, partition walls etc, and this can be very frequency dependant so affecting some channels more than others.
Apart from the D3&4 mux, all those lower channels are well down, so there maybe something frequency dependant that's helping C27, otherwise the overall performance looks to me like something you might get from an old "contract" Group B aerial especially as you have no reception of COMs 7&8 when you should have some.
Whilst it's possible that the transmitter may still be having work done, the BBC reports no faults. You could see what it's like tomorrow.
In the meantime I'd do some basic checks such as check all you coax plugs, connections, flyleads etc, unplug connectors check for corrosion or other problems and reconnect them. Also check that your downlead looks undamaged (not chewed up by vermin etc. and that your aerial seems intact and still pointing in the correct direction.
Problematic connections, flyleads are a common problem, damaged cable, etc. can seem to affect reception of just an individual or several multiplexes.
If things are no better tomorrow and you are still getting problematic reception, you could chance your luck and providing you don't have Satellite or Cable TV see if you can get free help by contacting the Freeview Advice line on 0808-100-0288 where they could be offering to send an engineer to replace your aerial with a Group T / Wideband which is what you'll need to have satisfactory reception of all multiplexes.
Finally, I had meant to comment in my previous post on your remark "I assume this is all for 5G taking over C55 and C56. It won't help here much when we still can't even send a text."
Not quite correct. Apart from the fact the C55 &56 are placed in a gap between the Upstream and Downstream blocks allocated for mobile usage, the gap isn't expected to be used (for SDL) for sometime. The whole 700MHz allocation hasn't even yet been auctioned off, but OFCOM are not expecting it to be all used for 5G, (5G is currently operating in the 3.4GHz band) they are expecting some use of it to be made to improve mobile coverage in rural areas in particular.
So there is hope that maybe you won't have to wait too long to send a text!
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Thursday, 14 November 2019
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Chris.SE12:30 AM
4wd:
Apologies, on rechecking, I note you did say your aerial was wideband. However that doesn't change my comments about the way the aerial is behaving not being outside.
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Chris.SE2:21 AM
AJ:
Sorry to have missed your post earlier, you should have no trouble receiving any of the multiplexes from Bilsdale. As you may have noticed from some of the other posts here, it looks as if COMs 7&8 were still off-air until quite late in the day. Try a further retune if you haven't yet got them.
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4wd7:28 AM
It seems unlikely that until yesterday the aerial performed perfectly well but developed some kind of technical problem at exactly the same time they have been moving channels about, especially when it isn't subject to effects of the weather.
It's a full sized outdoor type aerial which is better inside as they are lucky to last more than a couple of years outside here due to high winds snow and icing.
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Chris.SE10:31 AM
4wd:
It's not unlikely at all, I'll repeat what I said in a previous post -
Quote "So I think therein lies your problem, indoor or loft aerials can be affected by all sort of things apart from roof tiles, worse when wet, water tanks, partition walls etc, and this can be very FREQUENCY DEPENDANT so affecting some channels more than others."
Try repositioning the aerial and see if you can get any improvement.
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hardy3:41 PM
You should get a strong signal from the south west direction . I think i would use a small well made outdoor aerial .
In doors in this area you may be getting your signal through a stone wall . An amplifier might help if you insist on an indoor aerial. . A small log aerial might work better as it perhaps could be placed higher up in the loft looking through tiles rather than wall.
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Chris.SE6:16 PM
hardy:
The problem is look at the uneven response! There is definitely things messing up the signal, reflections, attenuation etc from god knows what. The first thing to try is repositioning. Whilst I sympathise with the view about outdoor aerials in exposed locations in North Yorks, if a suitable position in a loft or wherever cannot be found to get a more reliable performance, then your suggestions are the obvious considerations, especially the log periodic with a tighter beamwidth and excellent front to back ratio, it's even the best option for outdoors.
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Thursday, 21 November 2019
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hardy4:33 PM
I agree about the reflections . A loft position that is ok for one frequency maybe bad for a different frequency .
And some "hi gain" big aerials that would work well in open air become low gain next to walls or metal work indoors .
Also the area is very hilly . Ideal for all sorts of interfering reflections !
An outdoor aerial at Ainthorpe . A similar distance to the transmitter , needed an amplifier to reliably get all channels from Bilsdale .
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