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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - AM: Radio 4 on MW has now closed. Please retune to FM, Digital Radio, digital TV, BBC Sounds or smart speakers to continue listening. More information can be found on the front page of this Reception Advice website. from 15 Apr 00:00. . BBC


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Tuesday, 6 March 2012
G
Graham
9:50 PM
Camberley

I've just used the new Reception Prediction System and for reception at my postcode from the Crystal Palace transmitter, the model is predicting low signals for Muxes 1, B, and C (which I can still receive) and lower signal strengths for Muxes 2 and A (which I cannot receive). So the model predicts the relative levels correctly, although of course it doesn't provide the propagation model algorithms, so actual receiver levels cannot be tested or compared to the receiver equipment figures (the TV reception signal levels are probably only guides anyway and I don't know the aerial gain). Therefore, simple propagation loss seems to be the answer and not interference, which cannot be calculated without knowing my aerial characteristics. I hope this model is available post switchover, so I can confirm the situation then.

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Wednesday, 7 March 2012
Roger
11:30 AM
Chelmsford

Just as a status report from CM3 7AH, between Chelmsford & Southend. All digital channels present on Techwood Freeview+ & TopUp TV+ boxes.

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Briantist
sentiment_very_satisfiedOwner

11:36 AM

Roger: Nothing is going to happen to your reception for another month...

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FJC Farrar
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

12:26 PM
Camberley

Graham: Except for the higher areas towards Bagshot; Reception in most of Camberley is now much better from the Hannington transmitter even though MUXs ARQA & ARQB remain power-restricted until 18th April. Of course, if you only have an aerial pointing towards London, it is worth waiting for switchover completion at Crystal Palace to see if signals become adequate on all MUXs.

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Mike Dimmick
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

12:27 PM

Graham: The Digital UK predictor does not show signal strengths. It shows the percentage of locations across the grid square that are expected to have sufficient signal strength, compared to interference from other transmitters, for 99% of the time, and for 50% of the time. The figures really show the relative difficulty of siting an aerial at your location.

In contrast, your box does not subtract the strength of the interference from the strength of the wanted signal and simply reports the total power received on the selected frequency. It is possible for equipment to reconstruct the desired signal internally, basically re-encoding after decoding, and subtract it from what was received, but this is typically only done by specialist measuring equipment. (Installers *should* use equipment that does this, in order to find the best location for the aerial).

If the 99%-time figure is over 70%, the square is considered 'covered', shown as 'good' (green) and the service will be protected against interference from any new services (e.g. 'white space' broadband, local TV services at another transmitter). If the 99%-time figure is below 70% but the 50%-time figure is above, it will be shown as 'variable' (orange). If both are below 70% but 50%-time is still over 50%, it will show as 'poor' (red). If below 50%, the square will be blank.

For you, your best bet is probably Midhurst, although it thinks your aerial is most likely pointing to Hannington. Commercial muxes from Crystal Palace will be poor after 18 April, despite the power increase, because they will use the same channels as the corresponding transmissions from Rowridge. Rowridge may be too weak to use, but it's certainly strong enough to cause you problems!

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mim
6:08 PM

Hi,
All I want to know is the planned works for Crystal Palace transmitter AHEAD of time.
I was waiting to watch BBC1 at 12.15am last night and zip.. gone.. black, lost ITV 1 at the same time then Channel 4. Was left in insomnia hell with BBC 2 reporting on the US elections Super Tuesday and channel 5 Super Casino arghh. This has been happening over the last month. I only have analogue. How can I find out for tv tonight/early morning?
I know this is a techi site but it is all I can find.

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FJC Farrar
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

6:36 PM
Camberley

Mike Dimmick; Despite what the predictors suggest, I do not know anywhere in Camberley that can even detect that the Midhurst transmitter even exists - probably because the intervening topography. Since the same applies to the Rowridge transmitter, Crystal Palace will probably be OK after switchover is completed. However, Hannington is fine right now even with occasional glitches from two temporarily low-power MUXs.

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Tim
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

8:19 PM
Radlett

Mim, I would strongly suggest you get a freeview set top box starting around £ 20 as Crystal Palace will start to stop analogue broadcasting in the next 4 weeks. At the moment they are testing the new equipment and this loss of analogue channels will happen again in the small hours. Check the top of this page for crystal palace transmitter analogue shutdown schedule.

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Tim's 32 posts GB flag
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Graham
10:37 PM

Thanks for all the comments.
FJC, I live on the Crystal Palace side of a ridge at the Bagshot end of Camberley at 100m with 20m above me protecting me from Hannington.
Mike, the predictor under the "Full Details tab" claims to provide receiver signal strengths, see Find out how to receive Freeview and Freeview HD | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice The predictor also claims that my best solution is Crystal Palace today and also shows the best signal strengths after switchover.
(GU151ER)

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Thursday, 8 March 2012
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P Akehurst
10:06 AM

Every Wednesday for the last few weeks I am unable to get my Humax tv digital recorder/box (9300T) to work. Is this a temporary or a permanent problem & why? It is most annoying.

Peter

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