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The symbol shows the location of the Winter Hill (Bolton, England) transmitter which serves 2,690,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Winter Hill (Bolton, England) mast?

Winter Hill transmitter - Winter Hill transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 04/11/2024 Pixelation or flickering on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Winter Hill transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C32 (562.0MHz)726mDTG-100,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) North West, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 17 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C34 (578.0MHz)726mDTG-100,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (Granada), 4 Channel 4 (SD) North ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 North ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (Granada), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C35- (585.8MHz)726mDTG-100,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD North West, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV Granada), 104 Channel 4 HD North ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C29 (538.0MHz)726mDTG-8100,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C31 (554.0MHz)726mDTG-8100,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C37 (602.0MHz)726mDTG-8100,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LM
 H -20dB
C40 (626.0MHz)572mDTG-121,000W
Channel icons
from 1st October 2014: 7 That's Manchester,

LL
 H -17dB
C24 (498.0MHz)572mDTG-122,000W
Channel icons
from 30th June 2014: 7 Bay TV Liverpool,

LPR
 H -20dB
C56 (754.0MHz)572mDTG-121,000W
Channel icons
from 1st October 2014: 7 That's Lancashire,

GIM
 H -20dB
C57 (762.0MHz)572mDTG-21,000W
Channel icons
 Now 90s,  Spotlight TV,  Clubland TV,  Country Music Entertainment ,  Classic Hits MCR, 77 That's 60s MCR, 78 TCC, 80 That's 80s, 86 That's 90s MCR, 88 TV Warehouse+1,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-2 16QAM 2K 3/4 18.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Winter Hill transmitter?

regional news image
BBC North West Tonight 3.1m homes 11.8%
from Salford M50 2QH, 22km southeast (140°)
to BBC North West region - 92 masts.
regional news image
ITV Granada Reports 3.1m homes 11.6%
from Salford M50 2EQ, 22km southeast (139°)
to ITV Granada region - 80 masts.

How will the Winter Hill (Bolton, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1956-80s1984-971997-981998-20092009-132013-182013-1720 Feb 2020
VHFC/D EC/D EC/D EC/D EC/D E TW TW T
C9ITVwaves
C12BBCtvwaves
C24_local
C29SDN
C31com7com7
C32BBCA
C34D3+4
C35BBCB
C37com8com8
C40LOCAL2
C48C5wavesC5waves
C49tv_off ArqAArqA
C50tv_off BBCABBCA
C54tv_off-BBCB-BBCB-BBCB
C55tv_offBBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesArqBArqBArqBcom7tv_off
C56tv_off_local_local_localLPR
C57tv_offGIMGIMGIMGIM
C58tv_offSDNSDNSDN
C59tv_offITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesD3+4D3+4D3+4
C61ArqA
C62BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBCA
C65C4wavesC4wavesC4waves

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Nov 09 and 2 Dec 09.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 500kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 100kW
com7(-12.9dB) 25.7kW
com8(-13.4dB) 22.6kW
Analogue 5(-16dB) 12.5kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*(-17dB) 10kW
LL(-24dB) 2kW
GIM, LM, LPR(-27dB) 1000W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Winter Hill transmitter area

May 1956-Jul 1968Granada Television†
May 1956-Jul 1968Associated British Corporation◊
Jul 1968-Feb 2004Granada Television
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only.

Comments
Thursday, 20 August 2020
L
Liz
1:31 PM
Chester

Thanks Chris.
No, we were getting fine BBC1 on 1, when our box died, we got a BT youview box, which we then discovered the best signal through this box was 751. My tuner in my PC also had no problems with BBC1 on 1, and I never had bbc1 on 751.
Same aerial, 2 leads from it.
Googling discovered that the box itself is notorious for not picking the best signal for the LCN's apparently, and we put it down to that, as we can pick up a dodgy signal from Wales and West Midlands.

When the retune required on the 12th, made the 751 BBC1 disappear, we tried both aerial cables through the TV (not the box) to determine if it was one of the cables or the box.

Both cables from the aerial, tv, pc tuner and box are now only picking up bad C32 channels.
And yes we were and are picking up LCN 7, which is Liverpool TV. Again, no signal problems.

If it was a case of wrong group aerial, why would it pick of c29 channels with a perfect signal, but not c32 channels? (or is my assumption that 29 is before 32 doesn't apply in this case?).

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StevensOnln1
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4:34 PM

Liz: Do you have any duplicate BBC channels in the 800+ number range? It may be that your box has wrongly put the weaker signals on 1,2,etc and put the stronger ones in the duplicate channel range.

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Liz
5:17 PM
Chester

Hi Steve,
No, the only 800 we have is BBC 1 Wales, which isn't a great signal either.

I have no problem with this being "I need a new aerial" I just don't understand why it's only channels on the C32 we have signal problems with; All the other channels are completely fine, with high signal and quality.

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Friday, 21 August 2020
C
Chris.SE
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3:08 AM

Liz:

When aerials are picking up signals "out of band/group" their performance can vary dramatically from one channel nto the next, and in your case it doesn't look as though it's working well on Ch.32 for whatever reason. What helps here is that it is the BBC multiplex that you aren't getting, so Freeview have no reason not to provide the In-Home support (providing you qualify as previously explained).
I wouldn't mention about your original box getting Ch.32 (it may have had a more sensitive tuner). You just need to say that prior to Aug.12th you only got the BBC channels on 751, 752 etc and now you can't get them. They'll go through the retune procedure with you (which you can say you've done several times) and check you don't have cable or satellite.
Ask if you have any more queries.

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Liz
9:29 AM
Chester

Many thanks Chris. Just the info I needed. :)

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Sunday, 23 August 2020
J
John Pratt
11:25 AM

Chris.SE:
I have a historic group C attenae,
After the feb retune channel 32 became very weak in comparison with channel 55.. After the August retune the channel 32 is stronger, along with the other grpup A channels. I suspect that there is an automatic gain control sonewhere in the receiver, which was dominated by the channels 55 etc between Feb and August.
Now after the August retune channel 55 is weaker at the transmitter the gain control boosts the combined signal. so it is just workable.

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Maggi
2:06 PM

Channel 264 Revelation TV is on FreeviewHD. Why can I not receive this on the Winter Hill Transmitter? Thanks.

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Monday, 24 August 2020
C
Chris.SE
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3:41 AM

John Pratt:

There has been no changes to transmitter power for any of the multiplexes, just the final move in UHF channels on August 12th and of course the closure of the orignal BBCA mux on UHF C50 which was simulcast after the February 20th retune so those with old aerials could still get the BBC channels at 751, 752 etc in the EPG until their aerials were updated.

As you may appreciate that if you are in a strong enough signal area (generally fairly close to the transmitter) you could still get out of group lower channels with adequate signal, however it may be quite marginal and close to the "cliff-edge", this could mean that any receiver "desensitisation" can cause loss of signal. If a combination of received signals are sufficiently strong, then it can cause front-end overload (a reduction in gain due to agc is one of the effects) and so you lose the weaker signals as they fall off the cliff edge! The reception of the "extra" multiplex (the simucast) could be just enough to cause this, and it won't be the first time I've heard of some with this sort of thing happening.

Also remember you cannot always rely on the receiver's strength reading in such cases, as it also reduces due to the agc effects. The only way you an prove or demonstrate any of this reliably is firstly to use a professional signal strength meter to look at the received signals, as well as maybe a spectrum analyser, and use a variable attenuator to reduce what the receiver is getting and see how it behaves.

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John Pratt
8:24 AM

Chris.SE:
Looking at the Winterhill channel listing it states that channel 55, COM 7, is now 25,700 W , compared with the main multiplexes at 100,000W. As this is the only remaining channel my group C aerial is now only seeing a quarter of the signal it used to. So the AGC has lifted the gain of the group A channels.
Looking at the TV report channel 55 is still reading 90%, compared to channel 32 at 45%.. Just about usable, but when 5G transmissions start I think I will still have problems of the AGC seeing the @700 signals So I think a new Group A aerial is justified.

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Graham Plumb
2:02 PM

Liz: Hi Liz
Do you still have problems on Ch32? If so, have you tried rescanning your box with the aerial lead disconnected and then rescanning again with the aerial lead reconnected? It could be that the box has become confused and you need to flush all the previous services out of the service list. Graham

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