Full Freeview on the Bilsdale (North Yorkshire, England) transmitter
Brian Butterworth first published this on - UK Free TV
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The symbol shows the location of the Bilsdale (North Yorkshire, England) transmitter which serves 570,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.
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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
Which Freeview channels does the Bilsdale transmitter broadcast?
If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Bilsdale transmitter?
BBC Look North (Newcastle) 1.6m homes 6.0%
from Newcastle NE99 2NE, 74km north-northwest (336°)
to BBC North East and Cumbria region - 70 masts.
ITV Tyne Tees News 1.4m homes 5.4%
from Gateshead NE11 9SZ, 75km north-northwest (333°)
to ITV Tyne Tees region - 47 masts.
All of lunch, weekend and 50% evening news is shared with Border
Are there any self-help relays?
Garsdale (pin Fold) | Transposer | 63 homes (coverage together with SH34) | |
Hawsker Bottom | Active deflector | 150 caravans | |
Langthwaite | Active deflector | 30 homes |
How will the Bilsdale (North Yorkshire, England) transmission frequencies change over time?
1984-97 | 1997-98 | 1998-2012 | 2012-13 | 13 Nov 2019 | |||||
A K T | A K T | A K T | K T | W T | |||||
C21 | BBCB | ||||||||
C23 | C4waves | C4waves | C4waves | BBCB | |||||
C24 | _local | D3+4 | |||||||
C26 | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | BBCA | |||||
C27 | BBCA | ||||||||
C29 | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | D3+4 | |||||
C30 | _local | ||||||||
C31 | com7 | ||||||||
C33 | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | ||||||
C35 | C5waves | C5waves | |||||||
C37 | com8 | ||||||||
C40 | ArqB | ArqB | |||||||
C43 | SDN | SDN | |||||||
C46 | ArqA | ArqA | |||||||
C55tv_off | com7tv_off | ||||||||
C56tv_off | COM8tv_off |
tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 12 Sep 12 and 26 Sep 12.
How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?
Analogue 1-5 | 500kW | |
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB | (-7dB) 100kW | |
SDN, ARQA, ARQB | (-10dB) 50kW | |
com7 | (-14.3dB) 18.5kW | |
com8 | (-14.4dB) 18.1kW | |
Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C* | (-19.2dB) 6kW | |
Mux 1* | (-20.2dB) 4.8kW | |
Mux D* | (-24.9dB) 1.6kW |
Local transmitter maps
Bilsdale Freeview Bilsdale DAB Bilsdale AM/FM Bilsdale TV region BBC North East and Cumbria Tyne TeesWhich companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Bilsdale transmitter area
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Is the transmitter output the same in all directions?
Radiation patterns withheldFriday, 28 September 2012
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Tony1:20 PM
Darlington
First off, just wanted to say what an excellent site this is, and it's been very informative.
I'm really p'd off right now, as I don't think there's been any publicity given to the change of frequencies on Bilsdale transmitter post-cutover - so for people such as my parents, who had a decent freeview signal on all but Mux6 pre-cutover - suddenly find they've got fewer channels than before, and are unexpectedly having to think about having the aerial replaced.
So, with that in mind, looking at the frequencies table above I see that the current aerial group recommended for bilsdale is K, but for 2013 onwards it says W. Is there yet another frequency change coming next year?
Is a K still the recommended type, or should they be looking at a W type?
Thanks.
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Tony: My sympathies go to you.
Before replacing the aerial, try manually tuning if the receiver allows.
There are also a proportion who receive from PSB-only relays, such as in Whitby and Guisborough, who have had to wait to switchover to get any Freeview at all. These people will be disappointed that they have limited channels.
The nonsense of so many wideband or semi-wideband transmitters (where PSBs are in one group and COMs in another) is caused by the fact that channels 31 to 37 have been ringfenced to be sold off for more multiplexes... or maybe not depending on what the powers that be decide.
Consequently, where previously Group A channels available were 21 to 35 (or perhaps you could say 21 to 37) are now 21 to 30 (but only a handful of transmitters use C30).
At the top end (C/D), C61 to C68 have been ringfenced to be sold off to 4G mobile operators, so this is now a smaller group as well.
The silly nonsense of prospectively putting three new muliplexes in the 31 to 37 gap means that some Group C/D aerials (on C/D transmitters) may have to be replaced.
When it was all planned out, the vast majority of transmitters had four channels all in the same group. Queue the introduction of Channel 5 in 1997 and the insistence that logical planning and universal coverage should go out the window in order to cram in as many as possible.
The objective has always been that post-switchover the PSB services are available in all areas that four-channel analogue was, and without the need to change aerials. This has been achieved in all but a small number of cases.
In answer to your question, in signal areas where a log periodic will work, use one. These are naturally wideband and have a much flatter response than yagis.
Where more gain is needed, a yagi must be used. Because the gain curve of yagis always peak at a relatively high channel and slope off downwards, wideband yagis have less gain on Group A channels. This means that a "high-gain" wideband aerial isn't "high-gain" on Group A channels:
Aerials, TV Aerial and Digital Aerial
See this page for some examples to understand this point:
Gain (curves), Again
It is really a compromise. The more channels you design the aerial to operate across, the more the curve stretches and hence the more the low gain end spans more channels.
I'm not sure on what basis that the above says wideband. Perhaps because everything may all get thrown up in the air and it will be anyone's guess as to where they land....
However, on the basis that useable C/D is now smaller, I wouldn't have thought that they would be allocating any C/D channels to transmitters that currently don't have them.
In any case, it doesn't mean that "no" signal is received out of group. As I say, the gain slopes away.
For more information and products, see ATV's site:
Bilsdale TV Transmitter
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Tony3:39 PM
Darlington
Many thanks for your quick response.
I had tried manually retuning, but that didn't make any difference.
I've read through the aerials links, and as you've suggested a log periodic sounds like the best option. Cheers!
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Alan10:36 PM
Stockton-on-tees
Hi Dave,
Yes I agree with Tony this is a great site and I thoroughly appreciate your time and help.
I managed to find out we have a wideband aerial fitted so I'm unsure whether this a k group aerial or not?
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Saturday, 29 September 2012
Alan: Wideband is fine as it covers the whole band.
Group K is Group A (bottom third) plus Group B (middle third).
I'm not sure that I can be much more help to you. With your symptoms the likely possibility appeared to be that you still had a group A aerial.
Is it possible to bypass the booster (as a test) by connecting the feed from the aerial to that of the room where the troublesome PVR is?
If the booster has a separate power supply then remove the power supply first and then remove the booster.
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Sunday, 30 September 2012
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Claire3:18 PM
Completely lost Dave channel. Reset box have done full retune and completed a manual retune on 46. In Malton area anything else I can do?
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Trevor Milburn8:04 PM
Sunderland
I have had the same apparent problem as Claire. I was watching Dave on Saturday morning when suddenly I got a blank screen and 'No Video' message on my TV (Sony + built in Freeview HD) - same on all C46 stations. Tried automatic then manual re-tunes (C46 only) all to no avail. I am not certain what aerial I have (I do have a booster)but as all other channels etc seem fine and I haven't had any problems in the past I will now have to go through a process of elimintaion to find out the cause of the problem. I am in Sunderland and all my other TVs are recieved via Pontop Pike so can't do comparisons with othe TVs on the same transmiter which is a pain as the immediate suspect is the booster/co-ax link bearing in mind that C46 is at the top end of the transmission spectrum.
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Claire: See my posting to Alan, above, Thursday 27 September 2012 1:56PM. If you have a group A aerial which will likely be the type installed in the days of four-channel analogue then you may need it replacing.
Group A is the bottom third of the band of frequencies and now the COM channels are all in Group B (middle third), which are in the 40s.
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Trevor Milburn: Rather than install a new aerial, could you feed the TV from the Pontop Pike aerial? The expense of changing this may be less than the cost of installing or paying an installer to fit a new Bilsdale aerial.
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Monday, 1 October 2012
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Ian Gilkison10:40 AM
Ripon
I have two independent receiver systems with separate aerials aligned with Bilsdale and both are missing the HD channels 50..54 here in Ripon, N Yorks
There is Zero signal strength for MUX PSB3/BBCB UHF 23 at 490MHz. Other MUX on UHF 26, 29, 40, 43, 46 are all strong (>90%).
My first system is a wide band roof mounted aerial into a LG M2380DF. Second system is a lof mounted twin yagi into a Sony KDL-26U30.
Please advise - has HD transmission started from Bildsale yet?
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