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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

Crystal Palace transmitter - Crystal Palace transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 20/05/2024 Pixelation or flickering on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 267 Al Jazeera English, plus 30 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 Yesterday +1, 75 That's 90s, 233 Sky News, plus 11 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 W, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! romance, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 71 That’s 60s, 73 HobbyMaker, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

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Sunday, 17 June 2012
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martyh
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8:30 PM

ok, thanks jb 38. I tried several attempts flicking through the aspect ratio on the Logic and on the 6th attempt in a row, the screen corrected itself. The picture being slightly better, also helped by use of the DNR button on the TV remote. Picture is now even. I think you are right re picture quality etc, in that I can no longer benefit from the processing features as seen before when pictures delivered straight thru the ariel, as some options no longer work using the Logic with scart connection. So I think I just have to put up with how things are, or when enough money saved up, buy one of the latest HD TV's. I think I'm done on this now, so thanks for the time and effort you've put in. It's just a shame that the format for the new signal made my TV somewhat redundant, when I'm sure it still has years of life left. Philips could also have been more pro-active as well I feel, leaving customers thinking their TV's would be ok for the new signal, when they were not but I know the government has quite a bit of blame there. I still feel cheated thinking about the £1600 I initially forked out though!! Regards, martyh

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Monday, 18 June 2012
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jb38
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12:07 AM

martyh: I would suggest that before you completely resign yourself into having to purchase a new HD TV you should try and borrow a normal Freeview box from someone for purposes of comparing its picture quality (after having been adjusted) with what you are getting from the Logic scart receiver.

I fully sympathise with your feelings regarding your TV being effectively redundant as I know a number of people who feels exactly the same, and especially if the CRT's in their TV's are still OK and not suffering from low emission because of the tubes cathode being on the way out, as should a TV with a good CRT be sat beside a modern LED illuminated flat screen LCD set, the picture on the LCD / LED set always looks positively flat and lifeless, and I havent seen one yet that doesn't.

Plasma TV's aren't quite so bad though, as just like in a CRT set the actual screen itself is illuminated and not being done via a back light as in LCD sets.

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11:28 AM

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK] Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]

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11:28 AM

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK] Over the next week Crystal Palace main transmitter: TV (digital) working normally, Radio (analogue) working normally, Radio (digital) working normally. [DUK]

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Tuesday, 19 June 2012
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martyh
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6:33 PM

Thanks jb38. Out of interest, would a new flat panel TV (of same screen size 32") consume less electricity than my Philips, which consumes 175 watts (normal operation), not forgetting the logic which consumes another 4 watts - total 179 watts please? martyh.

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jb38
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9:35 PM

martyh: Its very difficult to give an exact figure, but the average I get using a few 32" models as examples, e.g: Sony / Panasonic / LG's etc gives a figure of around 120 watts, one of the Sony's only being listed as having 90 watts consumption.

Plus of course you wouldn't really be using the Logic with a new set anyway, so its really out of the equation.

Will say though, your Philips CRT set does seem to be a bit greedy on power consumption, as a 32" (4:3) Panasonic CRT set with pro-logic sound that I used to have only consumed 140 watts, as I used to run it from a 175 watt 12volt / 250 volt inverter when the power failed, the inverters cooling fins only ever becoming mildly warm albeit there wasn't that large of a power loading safety margin.

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Wednesday, 20 June 2012
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martyh
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11:22 AM

Thanks jb38, I see. LED TV's are on the market now, any opinions on them. Not that I can afford to change mine yet, will hang on to it for the foreseeable future, unless I have to replace for some reason.

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jb38
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10:00 PM

martyh: LED illuminated LCD sets are getting to be the in thing as they allow the TV to be thinner compared to slightly older types fitted with cold cathode types, but as far as the actual picture is concerned there is virtually no noticeable difference, although I do have reservations about just how reliable LED types will be, as LED strips being used in important positions is tempting fate as its nearly always the case that one in the strip will go down.

I can forecast one thing though! being, that if you do take the plunge and purchase a new flat screen set that its almost guaranteed that you will be adjusting its picture settings every other day to try and make it appear like the CRT set, as everyone of a more critical nature I know does it, because as was mentioned in a previous reply CRT images have a lively presence attached to them that you just do not get from LCD sets irrespective of what type screen illumination method they use, otherwise though they do give very high quality images so long as they aren't priced in the lower end ranges, as pictures I have seen on some of these types can be quite appalling, and I will refrain from mentioning names.

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Thursday, 21 June 2012
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FJC Farrar
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11:58 AM

Jb38 I suspect most people find the image on flat-panel TVs less lively because they do not have the problems inherent to CRT TVs such as slight size-change with brightness, blurred peak whites, poorly focussed corners, indifferent vertical & horizontal linearity, iffy grey-scale consistency, inaccurate & less stable colour-tracking, relatively low definition and so on. Although these are not major issues with more recent and better CRT TVs; nevertheless they still exist and can surprisingly contribute to an apparently livelier, deeper looking image until you get used to the tecnically much superior but subjectively blander image of most decent flat-screen TVs. It is a bit like preferring deeply flawed Vinyl to less flawed CDs.

It is also true that greater viewing pleasure is obtained by much larger displays with flat-screen TVs. I would suggest the largest that doesn't look overwhelming in its setting - and this is because the absence of "liney-ness" & inherent deficiencies that limit CRT TVs.

The major problem with flat screen TVs of even the highest standard/price is the impossibility of squeezing reasonable in-built sound from cabinets a couple of centimeters deep containing tiny speakers formerly found only in small portable radios and facing in any direction except towards the viewer. Sadly, this is even worse with recent LED-lit models which can be (and are) made even less deep. This can at least be resolved with "sound bars" or more physically intrusive "Home Cinema" systems.

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martyh
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4:30 PM

jb38. I was really mentioning LED TV's is respect to their energy efficiency. Thanks for the extra stuff though. It's good to know my gripes are shared and it's not just me. When one considers the advances in technology, I think we have every right to expect good quality pictures, even colour balance etc, especially when one looks at the sales blurb/pitch manufacturers band about their latest TV's! Personally, I have noticed that a couple of my friends' flat TV's don't seem to give that great a picture - one looks very 'soft', or you might even say blurred - or woolly, compared to mine. ie: a bit like my computer screen if I set the sharpness to the 'soft' setting. Weirdly, setting it to 'sharp' (settings go from 1 to 5) is very hard to focus on. I hope they find a happy medium for everyone, one day.

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