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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

Crystal Palace transmitter - Crystal Palace transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 18/11/2024 Screen may go black on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
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1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Saturday, 7 April 2012
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jb38
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11:42 AM

Martyn Smith: Well I suppose its somewhat easier to cope with excessively high signal levels so long as all the multiplexes involved are at about the same levels as each other rather than the frequently experienced problem of reception in some areas where they are not, the balancing act you refer to being the order of the day.

That said though, this type of situation is mostly experienced before final DSO when some commercials are at ludicrously low levels compared to the main PSB muxes, such as applies with the situation at Sudbury.

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MCMLXII
6:56 PM

Chris K
Crystal Palace has been transmitting digital since November 1998 and analogue only ends this month.
But the relays get the first digital on the day BBC 2 analogue ends, then two weeks later get some more digital TV when BBC1, ITV and Channel 4 analogue ends.
So some have over 11 years to switch but others have to switch on the day BBC2 analogue ends then again two weeks later.

I guess they also need to allow some time for the chap on his bike to get to all the transmitters.

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Sunday, 8 April 2012
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Alison
2:42 AM

I have 2 Freeview boxes linked to my non-digital tv. After the London digital changeover this week one box(Sony) is performing fine but the other (Panasonic) - which is linked to the recorder is a nightmare. After the Panasonic is turned on or after channel change this freeview box gives a colour picture to start with but then goes to black and white and thereafter fluctuates between colour and black and white. Am in despair as now all that I record is a mix between colour and black and white - so awful. Has anyone else got this problem - can anyone advise me what can be done? Is it likely to be a Reception problem that will rectify once changeover complete on 18th? Do you think there's hope because it shows it can produce colour. Thank you!

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jb38
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8:10 AM

Alison: This could be linked to the massively high powered BBC transmitter causing the Panasonic signal overload problems, although as you haven't given your location (pref: post code) this cannot be verified, but purely for a test if you have a set top aerial lying around see if that works.

Another test without using another aerial is to leave the Panasonic sitting on any menu page which if I remember correctly might have a blue background to the printing, then if you see the background colour fluctuating take the aerial out of the box and see if this stabilises the colour, if it does then its overloading.

What model of Panasonic box are you using?

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jb38
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10:05 AM

Alison: What was said is taking it that you have the Panasonic coupled to the TV via a scart lead and not by using a coax RF link?

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David J
10:47 AM
Orpington

Reception problems

I had perfect digital reception on all channels before the digital switchover.Now when I switch the TV on all the channels appear ,signal strengths between 85%-95% and zero bit error level,but after a short period the signal strength is 0% and the bit error level is 10.I have fitted a new aerial which is giving a good to excellent signal strength. I have also tried a different TV which is ok on all channels but again after a period loses ITV,C4 but is still ok on BBC channels ,Film 4,Really plus a few others.Does anyone have any suggestions?


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11:04 AM

David J: See here for a posting from someone near to you with a similar problem (loss of ITV1, C4, C5 etc):

Single frequency interference | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice

I wouldn't change aerials as the problem may well right itself on 18th April and therefore any money spent is simply to provide television between now and that date.

Try a set-top aerial if you have one. Or as you have swapped the aerial, try the old aerial at ground level, indoors and maybe outdoors.

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Monday, 9 April 2012
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carl
8:51 AM
London

jb38:i have a bush bled22fhdl8 tv with built in freeview 4 months old. Iam unable to get the bbc channels i have done a reset manual tune and first time installation and getting no where ch23 is saying no signal?
i have attached my old freeview set top box up on the same tv and this has picked up all the channels. i am confussed

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jb38
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10:11 AM

carl: You are only 4 miles away from the massively high powered BBC transmitter, so if you have access to a non-amplified type of set top aerial plug that in and carry out another manual tune on Ch23, or should you not be able to obtain one, try a short piece of copper wire of about 8 or 12" or so carefully pushed into the middle part of the aerial socket, because this will provide a suitably reduced level of signal for a test. (Giving an update on results).

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Mike Dimmick
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2:53 PM

carl: That postcode looks like it might be a block of apartments, and therefore you might be using a communal aerial system. If so, check with your landlord or management agent about ensuring that the signal levels to your apartment/flat are correct. See PARAS - Professional Aerial Riggers Against The Sharks for some other thoughts on who to talk to.

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