Full Freeview on the Emley Moor (Kirklees, England) transmitter

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9:40 AM
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Hi. I have a question plus I am also hoping for a solution to a problem.
I have upstairs and downstairs. Both are going through the same Ariel and both are connected to a and a 4g actuator. Freeview downstairs and sound are perfect. 100% and 84% for and .
Upstairs it is 15% and 0% for signal and quality.
I've check booster, plug fuses, . I've also returned and no there is no difference.
I am at a loss.
It has been like this now for a week.
The only change to the property is a complete rewire of the electrical wiring through the home plug sockets and light switches.
Before this everything was working fine .
I need and a solution. My brain is telling me that there maybe a electrical some where but I'm not sure where. All plug sockets upstairs and downstairs have passed inspection.
My area postal code is ls13 2ss

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Richard Cooper

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10:30 AM

I think that you need to explain to those of us on ukfree.tv, how your gets from the to the upstairs tv set(s), i.e. tell us the full wiring arrangement from the aerial followed by any 4G filter and/or signal / and then, whether there is wiring to a 'faceplate socket' on the of the upstairs room followed by a fly lead to the upstairs tv(s) and so on.

Only with this level of detailed knowledge of your setup can we you.
Maybe you could pos, on here, t a wiring diagram of your upstairs setup?

Richard in Norwich.

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Chris.SE

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12:09 PM

Richard caywood:

Noting Richard Cooper's comments, the information would be extremely useful, where exactly is the - is it upstairs, in the etc.?
You shouldn't have any problems with the 6 main multiplexes at your location.
I'm thinking this could be a case of too much as you say you have 100% downstairs but is only 84%.
When a set's front end is overloaded, the readings can be totally off. I'm thinking the upstairs set may have a more sensitive tuner.

Try removing the booster and just connect one set at a time direct to the and see what readings you are getting.

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1:03 PM

firstly both tvs are lg with built in to which i have swopped around downstairs, upstairs and upstairs downstairs. so after deing so there is no change. tv is not at fault
secondly the is an 20db x2 tv out put, plug in with a 13amp fuse changed and replaced so as it goes the c0-ax from the areial goes in to the booster, then from the booster into the tv 's upstairs and then downstairs. (booster is upstairs in bedroom.)

The and downstairs is as i have mentioned 100% and 84%

the signal upstairs is as i have also mentioned 15% signal and quality 0%

the 4g attuater was plugged in to reduce interferance but with no joy, so i have removed it

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1:09 PM

If i had muxs problems with signal break up then it would be the same down stairs, but i have no break up or interferance of any kind downstairs

the ariel is on the pointing towards area apparently this is the stronges signal that i can get from my location

Regards to your question on removing the I'm afraid to say that when i do i get at all

Friday, 17 January 2020

Chris.SE

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12:37 AM

Richard caywood:

Let's clear up any misunderstanding. There was no suggestion that either TV was "at fault". Different brands and sometimes models of TV can have different tuner sensitivities - that is not a fault, some require less signal than some others to give reliable , that's just a fact.
Out of interest, are these both the same model of LG?

Now if I've understood what you've said correctly, when you swap the sets around, whichever set is downstairs it gives 100% signal and 84% , and likewise whichever set is upstairs, it gives 15% signal and 0% quality ?

As you've posted on the page, the assumption we'd all have made was you get your signals from there. Do you know which it is you get your signal from? In one respect, it doesn't matter which you are getting, but different locations can get the signals of the different multiplexes differently. This may become relevant.
But if you could just clarify, if you plug the directly into the upstairs TV, you get absolutely at all?

If you could also check what strength and quality figures you get on each TV if you swap the outputs from the over?

You say "the 4g attuater was plugged in to reduce interferance but with no joy, so i have removed it "
What were/are you getting? Is it just that you thought this was the problem since the rewiring?
4G filters will only block interference from 4G mobile signals.

Did your problem start immediately the rewiring was completed? Or did it start part way through the rewiring, or a period of time after?
Did the rewiring include new TV coax for the aerial and/or the downstairs ?

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7:44 AM

Morning.
Righty both lg TVs are the same. 32inch 720p even down to the same serial number.
When I tried the TV downstairs and plugged it upstairs I get 15% and 0% ... I plugged the TV upstairs and plugged it in downstairs I get 100% and 84%

From my location to which over looks kirkstall abbey my is pointing in that direction...
Ok the is plugged in upstairs. In one of the bedrooms. The aerial is on the . It goes via the in the brickwork and co-axed into the booster. The booster is a X2 TV with a max 20db . TV 1-TV 2.
Tv1 which is downstairs TV 2 is upstairs. 2 TVs via 1 booster via X1 aerial both on a direct link to the same area of the nearest . Both TVs where before having a complete rewire done working and giving out the same signal and .
Now u asked the question of swopping aerials round as in tv2 into 1 and tv1 into 2. By doing so I get the same . No change.
The 4g actuator was plugged in due to mobile phone . It has been plugged in since I had it. I removed it all because I thought it was that. By troubleshooting the problem at hand.
The council who go around and check with all properties and talk to home owners inrespect to the last time it was renovated, as in full rewire done. To which wasn't done in 20 years. So they did a full top to bottom a complete rewire done. Lights, plug sockets, main fuse board.. I know for a fact that I didn't have this problem before they started the works, but since it has been done ,. This is the problem to which I have now.
I have replaced the coax connections upstairs and downstairs and to the aerial to which all connects to the booster.
The rewire started on the the 8th Jan it was a 8am till 5pm a full day .... As I stated downstairs no problems upstairs a problem to which I cannot work out
this helps. Besides dust nothing else was moved, they where no damages, splits of any kind.

Saturday, 25 January 2020

Betamax_man

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9:54 PM

Richard, Just a question. Is the feeder coaxial surface mounted i.e. you can see the whole run, or is it run in the with an connection wall plate?

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11:50 PM

Richard caywood:

The reason for Betamax_man's question is no doubt the same question I had at the back of my mind, but didn't want to comment on until we had more detail. Although you say "no damages, splits of any kind" I'm wondering if there is possibility of damage in a place where you can't see it.

The checks that you've done certainly imply there's no fault with either TV or the . There is one other check you could do, as sometimes very strange things can happen, if you leave the downstairs coax unplugged at the booster, what are the and readings on the set in the bedroom - are they still 15% & 0%?

Also, things are bound to have been moved around when the rewiring was done. Do you have coax leads connecting each TV to some "sockets coming from the booster" in the downstairs room and also in the bedroom, or are the cables from the booster plugged straight into each TV with no connectors or sockets in between?
If you have leads coming from a socket (called flyleads) have you tried swapping these?

Going back to Betamax_man's question, I'd guess that the coax from the aerial to the booster is probably not visible where it goes through the , but I think and fault between the aerial and booster is unlikely.
Are the cables from the booster to each room fully visible all the way, especially the one to the bedroom TV?
If they are visible, is there anywhere on their length where they look as though they could have been/be crushed/flattened slightly, or bent sharply?

One final question, related to generally, is your aerial pointing more or less due E, or is it pointing more towards the SE, or pointing more to the N of NE?

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Sunday, 26 January 2020

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8:05 PM

Hi and thank u for Ur responds.
The is mounted. The coax is running down the wall and throu via the wall (corner of the window frame) and the clipted to the scurtinboard direct into the .
The coax is one piece around 3metres in length from booster into TV upstairs.
The coax from booster to TV downstairs is also one length around 10 meters in length. Both coax have not been split, cut, bent ,crushed in any way. The aerial coax via the wall has also been checked, no bends, crushed, split of any kind.
U asked the question on unplugging the coax from downstairs and see what the is on the upstairs TV. No change. Still the same.
Both aerials u can see at all time.

North eastly direction over kirkstall abbey the aerial is pointing