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The symbol shows the location of the Hannington (Hampshire, England) transmitter which serves 470,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Hannington (Hampshire, England) mast?

Hannington transmitter - Hannington transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 03/02/2025 Pixelation or flickering on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Hannington transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C45 (666.0MHz)362mDTG-50,000W
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1 BBC One (SD) South, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 17 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C42 (642.0MHz)362mDTG-50,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (Meridian/Central (Thames Valley micro region)), 4 Channel 4 (SD) South ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 South ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (Meridian south coast), 71 That's TV 3,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C39+ (618.2MHz)362mDTG-50,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 57 U&Eden, 101 BBC One HD South, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV Meridian Southampton), 104 Channel 4 HD South ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 203 CBBC HD, 204 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H -3dB
C40 (626.0MHz)362mDTG-825,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 61 GREAT! mystery, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 74 U&DaveJaVu, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 ROK, plus 28 others

COM5
ArqA
 H -3dB
C43 (650.0MHz)359mDTG-825,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama 1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 76 That's Dance, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H -3dB
C46 (674.0MHz)359mDTG-825,000W
Channel icons
 Al Jazeera Eng, 12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! romance, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! player, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's Melody, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 207 POP UP, plus 18 others

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Hannington transmitter?

regional news image
BBC South Today 1.3m homes 4.9%
from Southampton SO14 7PU, 46km south-southwest (194°)
to BBC South region - 39 masts.
regional news image
ITV Meridian News 0.9m homes 3.4%
from Whiteley PO15 7AD, 48km south (179°)
to ITV Meridian/Central (Thames Valley) region - 15 masts.
Thames Valley opt-out from Meridian (South). All of lunch, weekend and 50% evening news is shared with all of Meridian+Oxford

How will the Hannington (Hampshire, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1984-971997-981998-20122012-1318 Apr 2018
EEEB E TW T
C32com7
C34com8
C35C5wavesC5waves
C39BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1waves+BBCBBBCB
C40SDN
C41SDN
C42ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesD3+4D3+4
C43ArqA
C44ArqA
C45BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBCABBCA
C46ArqB
C47ArqB
C51tv_off_local
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off
C66C4wavesC4wavesC4waves

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 8 Feb 12 and 22 Feb 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 250kW
Analogue 5(-6.2dB) 60kW
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 50kW
com7(-8.3dB) 36.7kW
com8(-9.8dB) 26.2kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB(-10dB) 25kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*(-11dB) 20kW
Mux C*, Mux D*(-14dB) 10kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Hannington transmitter area

Aug 1958-Jan 1992Southern Television
Jan 1982-Dec 1992Television South (TVS)
Jan 1993-Dec 2006Meridian
Dec 2006-Feb 2009ITV Thames Valley
Feb 2009-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Hannington was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

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Wednesday, 21 March 2012
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10:01 AM
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APRIL 4TH Should be 1ST With whats happened when Guildford changes will Hannington Com Muxes be switched high power immediately or is this another wait and see and Hope affair ?
also will there be a RE TUNE Your sets message
broadcast on Hannington services.


Tony

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10:58 AM

Tony: No, Crystal Palace's switchover (and therefore all its relays, of which Guildford is one) starts on Wednesday 4 April. Guildford stopping use of C41 is the pre-requisite for Hannington making full use of it. Nearly all switchover events happen on a Wednesday. Only SDN's restriction is lifted on the 4th, ArqA and ArqB will still be restricted until the 18th.

To remove the restriction, services need to be switched from the restricted antenna to the main antenna, which involves disconnecting and reconnecting. Guildford C41 is being released by multiplex 2, which is taking over the BBC low-power multiplex's channel for the two-week period between stage 1 and stage 2, so that has to move before Hannington's changes can start.

Digital UK only guarantee that the work will be done by 6am. There are no technical changes to the multiplexes' configuration, so you do NOT need to retune, unless you cannot get the channels at the moment.

It's likely that BBC Two analogue at Crystal Palace and relays will be shut down shortly after 12:20am if the schedule is similar to this week and next (the BBC like to shut down at a programme junction, rather than in the middle of a programme). BBC One may have already shut down as the programme junctions this week and next are at 12:05am.

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11:05 AM

Tony: According to Ofcom's latest document, on 18th April all three of Hannington's COMs (41,44,47) will go up to their full final power.

Digital UK Tradeview suggests that for Hannington there will be "COM power-up" on 4th and 18th April. However, the power is shown to increase to full level (25kW) for all three on 4th April and not increase on 18th.

I suspect that both of these sources are not entirely correct.

I suggest, as KMJ,Derby has said, that come 4th April, Guildford will relinquish use of channel 44 and therefore Hannington's (ArqA) will go up to full power.

Then two weeks later, when Guildford stops using C41 and C47, Hannington's other two COMs will go on full power.

Obviously, there will be no need for a full retune; just manually tune the multiplexes when they become available, except for poorly designed sets that don't have a manual tune option.

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3:02 PM
Farnborough

thanks the reply's only the ITVBBC Muxes are received at moment all others show no signal
and the same is said by people close by with newly upgraded Antenna . We cannot get CRYPAL
Due very high trees in front of houses.

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Thursday, 22 March 2012
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8:28 AM

22nd March 2012 and I appear to have lost a massive chunk of channels - the BBC channels all vanished, however SKY news etc were OK. Retuned and now all the SKY has gone but I have BBC back and only 41 channels (previously 100+). (51.4816,-1.6213) 

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11:24 AM

Mr Smith: You are in an area served by the Aldbourne relay transmitter. Now switchover has happened, this is only does not carry the full range of Freeview channels; it is a Public Service transmitter only. You received full Freeview before switchover, so you must have been getting it from Hannington.

The first thing to do is ensure that your receiver(s) doesn't choose to use the signals from Aldbourne. They use low channels and Hannington uses ones higher up, so as a matter of course, it is a good idea to have the aerial lead unplugged for the first 20% of the automatic tuning scan to avoid picking up Aldbourne.

The Commercial multiplexes will be on low power from Hannington for a few weeks more.

On 4th April, ArqA on C44 (carries Pick TV etc) will switch to its full final power. Two weeks later on 18th April, SDN on C41 (carries ITV3 etc) and ArqB on C47 (carries Yesterday etc) will go to full power.

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D Budd
3:29 PM

We are picking up interference from petrol lawn mowers since the change over.
this is on a LG.32" freeview television
Never had it before. your comments please.

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Monday, 26 March 2012
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Adrian
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5:22 PM
Wokingham

Mike Dimmick:

How do I know if I live in the 'Guilford Notch' or not?

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Tuesday, 27 March 2012
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trevor
2:26 PM

had a friend on london transmitter and she had lost all itv channels......did a retune for her,when i had 115 channels,i removed the aerial lead from the tv and hey presto, all itv channels came back
hope this is help to anyone with the same problem

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Wednesday, 4 April 2012
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Adrian
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8:21 AM
Wokingham

As the Guilford transmitter should have stopped transmitting on C41 at 6AM this morning, can anyone confirm that C41 from Hannington is now at full power?

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9:26 AM
Farnborough

morning all

checked here in Farnborough the com muxes at 0900 no signal received so poss power upgrade
not yet occurred

Tony

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10:00 AM
Farnborough

UPDATE

0955

Channel 44 Now giving good reception here in Farnborough SKY News etc

Tony

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tim welby
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10:39 AM

In fleet we have received the new channels (hannington transmitter). However the signal is continually breaking up. Before today we did not receive any of the channels, so turning on of that mux at Hannington has worked but I hope that it is going to be turned up at some point.
The BBC mux is almost perfect, doesnt break up anywhere near as much

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10:46 AM

Tony: Yes, SDN is now showing at full power (25kW) at the top of the page.

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10:51 AM
Farnborough

tim welby

I Have noticed the signel meter is up and down at moment although not causing Breakup.
No Signel on c41 or 47

Tony farnborough (a325 area near Station)

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11:07 AM
Farnborough

Brian

channel 44 you show still low power ,i am getting this ok first time have got this

CH41 You have as 25kw am not receiving this at all

Tony

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Mike Dimmick
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11:23 AM

Tony: This is all governed by trying not to interfere with the Guildford transmitter. The old digital aerials at Hannington only fire to the west, north and south (actually a little to the west of north and south), because most of the digital services were assigned the same channel as a Guildford analogue service and therefore would destroy Guildford analogue, for some viewers, if allowed to fire to the east.

All the COMs are broadcasting at a maximum 25 kW in some direction. Just not your direction.

Last night, as part of the first part of switchover, Guildford low-power Mux 1 was switched off. This allowed low-power Mux 2, previously on C44, to move to Mux 1's old channel C49, to clear C44 for Hannington's use. C44 at Hannington is ArqA - this transmission has now moved to the omnidirectional antenna at the top of the mast, so you should now be able to receive it.

The assignment of which service got which frequency did change a few times over the years - but it's definitely ArqA on C44, not SDN, which remains (with ArqB) on the restricted antenna until 18 April.

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11:39 AM
Farnborough

thanks the update.

CHANNEL 44 Working ok.

CHANNEL 41 Sometimes a poor signel then Medium shows most times nothing

Tony

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sharon
2:01 PM

with the switch over my television keeps saying retune and i have but it keeps popping up i need help

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Malcolm H
3:07 PM
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Hannington reception problems finally cured by Crystal Palace DSO:

Since Hannington DSO I have suffered from continuous multiple channel pixellation and audio interference. Following this morning's Crystal Palace DSO and a re-tune I can, at last, receive stable Freeview inc BBC South and ITV Meridian. I simply re-tuned without doing anything to the rig therefore the problems can only have been the result of Hannington service provision, which is is not really acceptable especially since location is only 097/12 from the Tx.

Thank goodness that nonsense is over. I hope other people's reception problems in the Hannington easterly sector are similarly resolved.

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Adrian
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7:06 PM

Sharon:

Where are you located? What is the exact message you see on the screen? what make and model is the television?

Have you tried the 'reset' procedure below:

My Freeview box has no EPG, is blank on FIVE, ITV3, ITV4, ITV2+1, has no sound or the channel line up is wrong | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice (RG415DA)

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Neil
9:34 PM

I am in Fleet now receiving channels with a decent signal on C44 and C45, however C42 channels are not viewable due to fluctuating signal. No other channels are being picked up. Is it likely that this will improve any further?

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10:04 PM
Wokingham

Neil:

C42 has been at full power since the DSO ended on the 22nd Feb. I'm in Wokingham, and C42 has had no problems with the signal - it's currently showing 10 out of 10 for both signal strength and quality.

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tim welby
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10:56 PM

Neil

I live in Fleet and have an identical problem. The bbcA mux (which i didnt get until the first switchover date) is still available, however the C42 have been on and off all day (currently off). Im sure once the switchover is complete this wont keep happening

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Thursday, 5 April 2012
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Lance
2:05 PM

The MUX power increase on 4th April came through perfectly, eventually by the afternoon.
Despite what the Hannington Freeview list shows the MUX that changed on 4th April was ARQA on channel 44 NOT SDN on channel 41!
It had to be ch44 as that was the channel that was the first of the three to be freed-up from the Guildford transmitter (MUX2 ...going to ch49; this will then change to D3+4 and go to ch46 on 18th April)
Channels 41 and 47 are still awaiting their power increase on 18th April from Hannington.

This can all be seen on the GUILDFORD Freeview page.
Just to be clear:
Ch41 is used for MUXA (SDN)and will go to Ch48;
Ch47 is used for MUXC (ARQA) and will go to ch52; both on 18th April.


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Adrian
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5:03 PM
Wokingham

Lance:

Yes, you correct about C44 on Hannington.
However, the top of this page currently shows C44 at 10KW, described as 'Very low' and C41 at 25KW, described as 'Above average', which is obviously not right.

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Pedro dd
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9:31 PM

I'm getting all the multiplexes absolutely perfectly except ch41 and 47?

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Pedro dd
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9:34 PM

It's Guildford.

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10:37 PM
Wokingham

Pedro DD:

Ch41 and Ch47 from Hsnnington are being transmitted at a much lower power than Ch39, 42, 44 and 45 until the 18th April.

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Saturday, 7 April 2012
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Tony
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10:17 AM
Farnborough

Crystal Palace someone has suggested the final power on all muxes will be 200kw if so what will be the Final Power on Hannington after 18th .

Tony

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12:23 PM
Wokingham

Tony:

For Ch41, 44 and 47, I think the max. power after the 18th April will be 25Kw. Ch44 is already at 25Kw.
Ch 39, 42 and 45 will be 50Kw.


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trevor
2:36 PM
Woking

tim wellby

people in Odiham are having a similar problem on ch.42 with breakup and bad pixelation,hope this ceases to be a problem on 18th....also i live in brookwood and on dso i lost itv not bbc2

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5:10 PM
Wokingham

trevor:

Ch42 on Hannington is already at max. power.
Only ch41 and 47 will increase in power on the 18th April. I've just checked on my TV now, and ch42 is 100% for both signal strength and quality.

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6:01 PM

trevor: You are predicted as being able to have far in away better reception from Crystal Palace (especially from the 18th) over that of Hannington, as Hannington's main PSB transmitters although indicating good leave a little to be desired, and with the commercial muxes not indicated at as being able to provide signals above the status of poor at any time, this right into the future.

Adrian on the other hand and who has just replied to you, IS indicated as being in a position where Hannington is the best, and with Crystal Palace taking second place.

Obviously local conditions (obstructions etc) might well be applying in these areas and predictors don't necessarily take this type of situation into account, but that's the predictions seen for the code provided.

Just purely for a test, although Crystal Palace is about 40 degrees out from the rear of your aerial you should give CP's high powered (200kw) BBC1 a manual tune test to see the level indicated, it being on Ch23.

By the way on most equipment, if you go into the manual tuning screen as soon as you enter the channel number you intend to scan its level will immediately be indicated, this without actually having to scan it.

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9:01 PM

trevor: Since 4th April 2012 analogue ITV1 from Crystal Palace is transmitted on C33 instead of BBC2. Digital Mux BBCA is transmitted on C23 instead of analogue ITV1. This means that your analogue TV now has ITV1 on button 2 and nothing on button 3.

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Monday, 9 April 2012
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shen shkavvie noel penop
6:17 PM

hello im havving trouble in c41 no citv for my children and theay get realy peed of help

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7:37 PM

Shen:

You posted at 6:17PM - CITV only broadcasts from 6AM to 6PM.
Have you followed the re-tune instructions here below? :

My Freeview box has no EPG, is blank on FIVE, ITV3, ITV4, ITV2+1, has no sound or the channel line up is wrong | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice
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Saturday, 14 April 2012
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tim welby
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11:18 AM

Wondering if anyone can explain something. I have been looking at the levels for the different groups of channels. We are receiving PBS1 perfectly- my question is why are we not receiving PBS2 at all? According to the information at the top on levels PBS2 should be at 50,000 already - ie the same signal strength as PBS1.

Just to confuse things more we are picking up Coms 5 (not as well as PBS1 but alright) and that is only broadcasting on 10,000.

Why are we picking up channels broadcasting at 10,000 but failing to pick up some of the channels at 50,000. This may all be resolved on the final switch over date but just seems strange. Any explanation?

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4:18 PM

tim welby: I believe that the above is not entirely correct.

The Digital UK Tradeview predictor says that the positive offset is on PSB3 (i.e. C39+) and not PSB2. Furthermore, COM4 does not have a positive offset either. Briantist, you might like to look at this.

The Ofcom document, apparently updated January 2012, also says that Hannington's channels are not offset except PSB3:
http://stakeholders.ofcom….pdf

Also, COM5 is on its full DSO power of 25kW. COM4 and COM6 remain on low power until 18th April when the Guildford transmitter relinquishes use of these channels.


Tim, before I started, having simply looked at the channels at the top of this page, I was going to suggest that your problem may be that your receiver can't cope with the positive offset employed by PSB2, but I don't believe that this is the case.

I have been reading through your earlier postings that you made since switchover. You seem to have been having alot of issues since switchover.

As Mike Dimmick explained ( Freeview on Hannington TV transmitter | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice ) the difference between pre-switchover signal strength and post-switchover strength in your direction is huge. You may have had an aerial installed that was sensitive enough to pick up the pre-DSO signals, but which is now drawing in too much signal and overloading your tuner.

The reason for the marked difference is due to the fact that pre-DSO signals were considerably weaker in the general direction of Guildford (the "Guildford notch") in which you reside. This was so as to protect those using Guildford transmitter against interference as the two shared channels. So you have gone from having low low low signals to high ones.

Have you tried fitting an attenuator?

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8:29 PM

Thanks for your thoughts.

Pre first switch over date we didnt get any signal on any digital channel at all- so there has obviously been a huge improvement. However as you rightly point out, while some of our issues since switchover can probably be attributed to issues to do with Hannington, there are probably some problems within our system as well.

We are waiting till the completion of switch over before we worry about changing our system in any way. After this point we will look into an attenuator and other things.

I was looking up the positive offset (my background is pure mathematics not anything technical) is there something I should do to deal with that.

In my post it was really something that I found interesting that channels I got perfectly (the bbc multiplex) and PSB2 claimed to be the same power yet one comes through perfectly and the other not at all. I hadn't considered that the information at the top could be wrong- you may well be right. It was really a matter of interest rather than anything else.

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Sunday, 15 April 2012
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10:12 AM
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tim welby:

Me too. I am also going to leave things alone until CP DSO is complete. We seem to be on a similar bearing from Hannington, which also seems to be co-linear with Guildford, and our symptoms seem to be similar to yours. I prematurely thought it was all over but last Monday Hannington dropped out completely (all six), and yesterday both Hannington and CP PSBs were pixellating, both with painful audio interference (not good mid-Grand National...)

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Malcolm H

Great to know that it is not our system (at least not only our system to blame).

We have found that the PBS1 multiplex (basically BBC) is fine at pretty much all the time. Looking at the levels, it is no wonder that some of the others are having problems being as they are at such a lot lower signal strength.

Thanks for posting, am hoping that means it will not cost to get this working right

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Ch41 has disappeared completely from Hannington - I assume this will be back later today at greater signal strength after Crystal Palace has completed DSO??

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all channels all MUXES Now detected at 0915
no Break up of picture .Showing 85 to 95 signal
on the Crystal Palace channels no signal showing so not picking up any bleed over so all looks very good.

Tony

Farnborough GU14

location Empress Este Near A325.

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Since yesterday I habve been having problems with BBC1 etc on MUX 1. Very low quality of signal . Now having retuned I cant get anything on Mux 1 at all. Any suggestions

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Are the HD channels available in the Hook Area? There is nothing on Channel 39

Have a roof aerial and no problems with any other channels, but no HD on two HD Ready Tvs or a PVR (RG27 Ar) 

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Alan: They have been available since 22 February throughout Hannington's former analogue coverage area (no aerial restrictions).

An 'HD Ready' TV isn't sufficient. See What does "Full HD Ready" actually mean? | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice . I'm aware that there are some SD Freeview boxes that have an HDMI output - all they do is upscale the content. Check for the Freeview HD logo.

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alan rg27
just because you have an hd ready tv does not mean you will get hd channels...you have to have a freeview hd tv, or a freeview hd box

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At 06-30am All the MUXs were now perfectly received with all six at Quality 10 and strength of 9-10.
Now I have to make decisions on what to watch; I'm really spoiled for choice!
Now, with my PURE digital radio I've jumped up-to-date into the 21st century... but probably for only a few years until the next technology comes on-stream!
(By the way, I've posted this via my dial-up modem, so I'm not fully up there yet!)
FARNBOROUGH (Empress Estate... GU14).

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10:08 PM
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Same here: All 6 muxes are 10/10 for both signal strength and quality.

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All signals very strong in Farnborough GU14 using masthead amplifeir and wideband aerial.

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Not here, I have the PBS1 mux, but that is it. I dont even have the Coms5 mux which I did have for a while.

I tried doing a scan with the cable unplugged to reset, however it still found the PBS1, and when I plugged it back in nothing changed
We are GU52 and it does appear to be a black spot, however hte freeview predictors that I have tried have all suggested that we should have full freeview now.

Any thoughts?

I'm going to give it some time but I probably need some sort of booster or something else

Malcolm, you said we were on the same line as you- do you have good signal now?
tim

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tim:

Since DSO I am having a lot of reception problems here in RG27. I experience sudden pixellating and sudden loud audio interference on both Hannington and Crystal Palace. Prior to DSO we had no problems. After Hannington DSO I tried many things to find stable reception (other than changing the aerial...) to no avail so decided to leave it until after CP DSO. During yesterday (CP DSO) MUXs were dropping out but, using the OFCOM tables, I still couldn't find any pattern to the symptoms. Assuming CP DSO is now finally complete I may try again today. The barometric pressure was very low yesterday (976 HPa) but I am beginning to wonder if it is precipition-related rather than pressure-related. Should I really have to change both aerials to Wide-Band when reception was OK before DSO?

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No, I don't believe so. If you have never had any digital channels at all then there would be a possibility that you needed a better Ariel. If you have ever received digital channels then as far as I am aware, it cant be the ariels fault the ariels fault.

I carried out a hard factory reset this morning, with the very satisfying result that my channels (only limited to PbS1 i.e. the BBC mux) have for the first timte arranged themselves into the correct digital tv channel numbering. Of course unfortunately I havent gained any that were meant to come through yesterday, but it is still a step in the right direction

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Reception change June 2012

I am in Haslemere GU27 3RL and have a diplexed 2 aerial system pointing at Hannington and Crystal Palace. Our local transmitter is Freeview Lite and suffers from channel overlap with CP so isn't an option.

DUK trade view shows a reception change in May 2012 which will result in the loss of SDN, ARQA and B from Hannington. So far we haven't picked up these MUX's from CP (in line with DUK prediction). There is a further reception change shown in June 2012 which will degrade D3&4 for us.

Is there any information available about these changes?

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Steve Flynn: I remember when you raised this issue a couple of months back:

Haslemere digital TV transmitter | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice

I'm surprised that the Haslemere transmitter has been given channels that are used by another transmitter that will clearly interfere in its designated service area.

Whilst you could use Crystal Palace for PSBs only, it is London region whereas your nearest "designated" transmitter is Meridian.

The Digital UK Tradeview predictor just gives a guide to reception but does not give any indication of where this may be limited by interference and crucially, which transmitter providing the interferce.

In some cases it is clear; for example Crystal Palace which is "good" where you are is likely to be the culprit for degradation of Haslemere's signals.

I suggest that Heathfield might be the reason why DUK suggests that reception of Hannington's COMs and PSB2 will get worse in June.

See the "After Switchover" maps for C41, C42, C44 and C47:

UK TV Frequency map - channel C41 (634.0MHz) before switchover map | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice

Heathfield would surely be the likely candidate as it uses these four channels but not C45 and C39 as used by Hannington's PSB1 and PSB3 which aren't forecasted to change in June.

What this doesn't mean is that you "will" have an issue. Hannington and Heathfield appear to be roughly 180 degrees apart for you.

If, for example, there are trees or a building in the direction of Heathfield, then this will probably work in your favour; helping to block Heathfield's signals.

Can you pick up Hannington's COMs now that they are on their full final power. Note that Hannington's PSBs are 50kW and its COMs are 25kW. The latter use a less robust mode which allows them to carry more services at the expense of some viewers in fringe areas.

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Steve Flynn: I should also point out that as Heathfield is at 180 degrees to the direction your aerial is facing, the degree to which your aerial can "reject" signals from the back will probably play a part.

The pros that frequent this site can probably tell you more, but perhaps there are some types of aerial that have better rejection of signals from the rear than others.

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Dave Lindsay: Thanks for the info, the timing does match the Heathfield DSO dates. We don't have line of sight to Heathfield so I hope it won't be a factor when it switches.

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Hannington is our nearest transmitter (we are in Maidenhead). Since the switch over began we have had a very unusual problem.

whenever we switch to a BBC TV or Radio station, it palys fine while the channel info bar is there, but when it disappears afer 5-10 seconds the channels automatically starts playing the BBC1 audio if we are on a radio channel and the BBC1 audio and video if we are on a BBC TV channel. All none BBC channels are fine.

If you then pull up any on-screen menu, it reverts back to the originally selected channel.

We are using a Sony freeview box.

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paul
maybe it is your Sony freeview box that is causing the problem...if it is the vtx-d500 it is not going to work....you need to replace it with a new model....

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Why am I not getting HD channels 50-55 from Hannington on a Full HD set?

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B Brown: Without giving the model number, I cannot answer the question. However, "Full HD" simply means that it is 1080p and does not give any qualification being able to receive Freeview HD signals over the air.

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B Brown:

Furthe to Dave Lindsay's response, go to your your TV's manual tuning option, and see if the TV is 'aware' of broadcast channel 39 (the channel Hannington uses for HD broadcasts).
If that channel is not available, then your TV does not have a Freeview HD tuner (otherwise known as 'DVB-T2').


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Can anyone confirm that this is indeed the end of this saga with Hannington/Crystal Palace and thet the signals are now at full strength and no more retuning will be necessary?

Thanks.

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Dennis: That is correct. Hannington and Crystal Palace are now in their final state power wise and channel wise.

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It is Dennis and no more retuning will be necessary

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10:14 AM
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Goodbye Hannington, then, nice knowing you after 30 years with our local news...Hello Crystal Palace....with your irrelevant regional news...thank you so much DSO for this retrograde step...

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Malcolm H: Maybe this can help if you would like to consider DIYing it:

Hannington Transmitter

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Malcolm H: Confirming Dave Lindsay's comments.
I live on the eastern side of Crowthorne, right on the edge of the Hannington reception area. Using an XB16B aerial and all new cabling (both from the supplier mentioned by Dave Lindsay), I now receive all Freeview channels perfectly.
Reception of ArqA & ArqB muxes was pretty dire prior to 18th April (as was SDN prior to 4th April).
So a new/repositioned arial MAY help.

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Malcolm H: Trees can cause issues with reception.

The signal being received may vary when the branches move, when leaves are on the tree or when they are wet. They may affect some channels and not others.

If it is BBC standard definition services that you are having difficulty with, then these are on C45. BBC Two analogue used to be on that channel, so did you suffer from intermittently poor reception on that channel?

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Dennis
7:31 PM

Thank you guys.
Small problem this afternnon and evening - intermittent glitching on ITV1 Ch.3. Occurs at least once-per-minute, sometimesd 2-3 times in quick succession. All other channels fine. Hope this isn't going to be the norm.

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Is switch over pretty much complete? I am living in fleet , and am restricted to PBS1 (just bbc channels).

I dont get any of the channels on Mux 2,3 which the info claims go out at the same power (50,000).

Briefly a couple of weeks ago I got coms 6- poor quality but it came through. This has now disappeared even though according to the information provided, it is being broadcast at 5 times more power now.

What are peoples thoughts? is this it? will coms 6 come back- I am baffled why it would appear for a while and then disappear again. According to more general predictions we should be able to get the whole range (I realize that these are often not reliable). Should we be looking into attunators or amplifiers or is there still some sort of improvement to come (and does anyone think that either of these things would make any difference anyway)

Any thoughts or explanations would be appreciated

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Tim

DSO is complete for Hannington.
What broadcast channel are you receiving PSB1 on? It should be 45 for Hannington.
What signal strenght/quality does your TV or digibox show for broadcast channnels 41, 42, 44 and 47?

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I have had a look and yes PSB1 (PBS1?) is coming through on channel 45 though only with a low percentage (in the few seconds I watched it was between 16 and 31) which means it is quite good these channels break down so little.

41,42,44,47 all come through as 0% (so not a suprise I cant see them), though 44 briefly flashed 18% before showing 0 (none of the others did this). Is this flash significant? It seams odd, surely either it can get signal or it cant.

What I dont understand is why PBS2,3 dont come through at all if they are at the same strength as Pbs1- though I do realize the explanation coould be extremely simple- the signal strength data is wrong.

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tim: Sounds like the signal strength could be too high which is overwhelming your receiver:

Freeview signals: too much of a good thing is bad for you | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice

Try connecting a set-top aerial. Or if the aerial plug is a screwed together one (i.e. not a moulded on type) then unscrew and remove the outer part of the plug and insert only the centre pin into the aerial socket. See if these improve matters.

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Tim,

Prior to the start of DSO for Hannington in early Feburary, were you able to receive all multiplexes? PSB2 is broadcast on channel 42, at the same level as PSB1 on channel 45, so if you can receive PSB1, you should be able to get PSB2.

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Adrian, prior to switchover no I didnt receive any digital mux at all. As to your comment about PBS2 that is exactly what I thought, hence the question. If the signal strengths are identical why does one come in perfect and the other not at all.

Dave, I will see if we have a set top ariel to try out, though I find this rather hard to believe it could be the case. Before switchover there was definitely no signal (all the internet signal checkers agreed). In the past we have been in areas which did have good signal and we never had the problem we are currently faceing

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tim: The likely reason that you were in an area with no signal is not because you have poor line of sight to the transmitter, but because the transmitter was not radiating an omnidirectionally. That is it was outputting a much weaker signal to its east side.

Now the signals are omnidirectional. So you have gone from being in a "very very low/non-existant" to "very high" signal area. This is quite an increase.

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Adrian,

Yes I have done what you suggest. I carried that out earlier this week. That was quite nice as it has rearranged the channels into the correct order which before didnt happen.

Dave
You may well be correct. Would this show up on the power check feature on the recorder? I have gone through each of the channels that should be broadcasting other multiplexes. These are all reading absolute 0 (bar one which flickered for a fraction of a second on 18% before giving 0). If it were the case that the signal was now too high, should these readings (which are only to do with signal strength not what is on the signal) come out as zero?

tim

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tim: If the receiver is overloaded with signal, then the signal strength readings will be likely to be misleading.

That is because the circuitry is overwhelmed by the signal, it can't function normally.

The fact that there is an initial blip of 18% and then nothing could give rise to the theory that the signal level is too high.

Try putting less signal into the TV. For example, remove the aerial lead and hold the plug close (a centimetre or so away). The aim is to loose a bit of signal. Bear in mind that the receiver may take 10 or more seconds to adjust to your change, so wait.

Or as I said above, try removing the outer part of the plug (if it's a screw-together one).

When you do this, observe the signal strength meter and see if it increases.

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Dave

Just a thought. With the system I have, the lead from the aerial into my freeview recorder. I then have a lead going from the out socket to my TV. It was my understanding that this means that my tv would get significantly weaker signal?

If this is the case it cant be that the signal is too strong, as on my tv I dont get any channels at all (including channels from PBS1).

Would this rule out the signal being to strong?

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tim: Where a signal is split using an unpowered splitter (i.e. no amplification), then it stands to reason that the strength of the two outputs must be less than that of the one input.

However, where an aerial lead "loops through" a device, the signal is amplified to counteract the loss caused by splitting it.

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Tim:

Presumably your Freeview recorder also has reception problems in the same way as your TV?



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Adrian
yep, identical. Due to the fact that it finally allows us to record things when we are not here again, we have the cable going into the recorder rather than the tv (it then goes from the recorder to the tv as we have had it before but it seems signal is not strong enough for that)

I have no idea whether the tv would have recieved coms5 for the few days that it was available, as I did not try it during that period.

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Dennis
11:37 PM

ITV-1 (Ch.3) still glitching off, no signal for 2-3 seconds then Ok again from Farnborough GU14.

Is the airport messing about with some new equipment that upsets just this one channel?
(Should have built housing on that damn site!).

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Tim,

Have you checked with your neighbours to see if they are having the same problems?




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Hi,
Got a new screen message today advising I will lose channels on May 5th and to retune (again!!!). I've seen firmware over the airwaves updates listed for around this time, but these don't relate to my TV model. Any ideas on what will be lost or changing?

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Stuart Tier: Just checked on Hannington as well as other stations that you could be receiving from and do not see any event taking place on the date you have mentioned.

I would be inclined to treat the message as an error.

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Thanks jb38, I should've said I'm receiving from Hannington not Rowridge (terrain issues). If the message comes up again I'll repost

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Stuart Tier: Yes, no problem. The reason that I automatically mentioned Hannington is that this station is indicated as providing a slightly better level of signal over that of Rowridges powerful VP transmitter, but as aforementioned, I checked all stations seen on the predictor associated with the code provided and none gave any significance to the date you had seen.

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Keith Sheppard
5:43 AM

Now that the dust has settled for both Crystal Palace and Hannington...

I am in the fringe area known as Wokingham. I inherited an (inaccessible) aerial pointing at Crystal Palace but like to get BBC South local news if I can. I have successfully tuned my box so BBC South, from Hannington, is on logical channel 800. Probably 90 percent of the time this works fine - remarkably few drop-outs given that my aerial is pointing in completely the wrong direction. The other ten percent of the time (is it when it's raining, I'm not sure) it is unwatchable or cuts out completely with "no or bad signal" message.

How can it be so variable? Is it just teething troubles at the Hannington end? Is there anything I can do to improve matters?

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Adrian,
In our area there was no digital signal till switchover, so everyone else pays for their tv. I have asked around but noone is set up to receive digital.

Interestingly, while they are not yet working the ITV channels and a few others have been bookmarked (channel holder but no signal yet) so I am thinking that perhaps the repeater in this area is just slow>

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Tim

I'm not sure what you mean by a 'slow' repeater. The next stage may be to try investing in a signal booster to see if that helps.



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graham Paterson
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We have HD-capable Humax box & TV receiver and now that Meridian & Crystal Palaxce DSOs are done, want to switch our HD Freeview to Hannington, so we receive BBC South Freeview HD rather than Crystal Palace, as we've done up to now.

But Reading Aerial Services just told me that Freeview HD from Hannington is not yet available. I want to delay having them in until Hannington HD IS available. When will that be, please?

Thanks, Graham



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I mean I'm thinking that the relay (sorry wrong word) is taking its time on adding channels.

We went and bought a signal booster yesterday- so far no positive difference at all. We are hoping that when we have the right cable it will at least give us strong enough signal to have freeview on two devices

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graham Paterson:

HD transmissions are available from Hannington.
However, BBC One HD is "regionless", so there is no Meridian version being broadcast, and although this may happen in the future, no date has been set. ITV HD does carry four regions, and from Hannington this is Meridian Southampton. If you look at the top of this page for the channels listed under PSB3 you will see the details of what is currently available.

Hope this helps,
Adam.

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graham Paterson
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Hey, thanks, Adam, most useful.

I THINK that means that I should be able to get what I'm seeking: The BBC1 South regional news from Southampton ("South Today")- but I don't necessarily need this in HD (sorry, I didn't explain that fully) - but I DO want the other HD channels, coming from Hannington, that hitherto I've received from Crystal Palace.

If this provision is already in place from Hannington, I can approach the Aerial co. to ask them to come to do a test, to check we have the sufficient Hannington signal (about 2 miles due south of Reading town centre).

Thanks - if you could kindly confirm I've got the situation right, I'd be most grateful.

Best and regards,

Graham

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graham Paterson:

Yes, you are spot on. I notice from Google Streetview that quite a few homes in your area have two aerials, one at Hannington and one at Crystal Palace, so I think that Hannington should be possible from your area, but I would still get the aerial firm to check this for you.

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