Full Freeview on the Sudbury (Suffolk, England) transmitter

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11:01 AM

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11:50 AM

@ David C.... David, thanks for the heads up re work, I too that this is ironed out, it is not just affecting me, but neighbours also!

@ Dave Lindsay....Dave, thanks for the link, having read it and checked, as far as I can tell from each different device I have that can and tune , the coming in appears around 70-75% and is marked as 'Good' as opposed to the other two alternatives...poor or average.

Thanks both of you for taking the time to reply :)

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11:52 AM

Nick: I sympathise with your predicament.

The Commercial broadcasters were not mandated by law to follow the same coverage as the Public Service Broadcasters. This can only come back to politics rather any deficiencies in the of the . They follow the laws of capitalism which means that if it isn't worth it then it doesn't get done. They operate to provide them with a return.

After , the Commercial broadcasters use less error correction so as to give them more space to fit in more . This means that the signals are less robust than the PSB ones.

See the newsletter about the retune last November:

http://www.digitaluk.co.u….pdf

It says that on 27th June 2012 SDN would adopt 8k , but it makes no mention of this for ArqA and ArqB, so perhaps they were already in 8k mode (with the less error correction).

Nick, you did say that you could get ITV3 better when it was at 14kW, and it is carried on SDN which was in 2k mode then (and presumably more error correction than now). So the change in error correction could perhaps be the dampner, irrespective of increase.

When you consider that the path to Hollesley runs low to the ground for miles, then perhaps this explains why the less robust COMs aren't available. That is, they are getting "bashed about" too much.

In which case, it would seem logical to suggest that the amplification of only the COMs I suggested above may NOT do the trick because the problem is more likely to be poor signal (for which amplification won't solve).

This leads me on to wonder if you would be better off with a lower and . The objective being to get a better quality signal due to the wider acceptance angle. Obviously a lower gain aerial gives less signal strength, which is why an amp is necessary. I have seen this suggested as being an improvement on a high gain aerial in cases such as at the bottom of a hill, perhaps lined with trees. Perhaps the professionals could comment how likely this might Nick.

It is, of course, always a possibility that may be variable owing to rain, leaves on the trees and so on.

Your other possibility is to diplex your aerial on for the COMs with one on or for the PSBs. Obviously Dover may also be subject to variable reception. Its SDN and ArqA are co- with two of 's PSBs. Your aerial will also be facing the Continent which could increase your chances of suffering under lift conditions. Also, the fact that the signal isn't strong due to your distance probably means that it is more susceptible to being knocked out due to from other stations that are co-channel under certain conditions.

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11:54 AM

Nick: Of course, as you say, the best thing is to wait until the reported work at is completed to see what you have then.

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12:12 PM

Thanks Dave,
It seems to me this is a right muddle, if only had pick, challenge etc.
My at H has no amp, the one at A does.
Jb was kind enough to tell me which channels uses, as opposed to what this site tells me it does.
41, 44, 47, 56, 58, 60. Which muxes are using each of these channels? Can I assume that if, for example, Pick was on mux c before the , so called, it remains on that mux, albeit on a different broadcasting channel, or do the various stations also change muxes periodically? I hate to think of the elderly trying to follow all this messing about and trying to work out where their stations have gone!

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12:17 PM

Dave,
Why do you say my box has opted for the stations from 23 rather than those from on 41? How do we know which it has decided are best? It is a bit tricky plugging the in when I 'guess' it is near 41 as sometimes I am too early and get ch28, which I don't want either!

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12:32 PM

Nick: Which platforms TV choose to go on is up to them.

Challenge, Dave, Pick TV and Yesterday make themselves available on the service and via the Commercial multiplexes. These are decisions which they believe are better financially for them. Presumably they consider that the cost to be on is not as beneficial as being on Sky. Similarly, the outlay they make to be a on Commercial Freeview is better for them than not being on it.

Challenge and Pick TV are owned by BSkyB, so it isn't surprising that they don't make themselves available via that are in competition with Sky.

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12:33 PM

Nick: This site is independent. The numbers above have not been updated since the changes which took place on 27th June.

: Can you update the channel numbers and powers following these changes?

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12:37 PM

Nick: See Why do the six Freeview "multiplexes" have twenty different names? | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice

Use the UK site to find out numbers (tick the "Detailed view" box):

Digital UK - Postcode checker

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Robert B
12:46 PM

After reading the list of used by from (re: jb38) my scans have never picked up channel 47. Is this an error or am I missing out here?