Full Freeview on the Emley Moor (Kirklees, England) transmitter
Brian Butterworth first published this on - UK Free TV
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The symbol shows the location of the Emley Moor (Kirklees, England) transmitter which serves 1,550,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.
This transmitter has no current reported problems
The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Emley Moor (Kirklees, England) transmitter._______
Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
Which Freeview channels does the Emley Moor transmitter broadcast?
If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Emley Moor transmitter?
BBC Look North (Leeds) 1.9m homes 7.4%
from Leeds LS9 8AH, 22km north-northeast (22°)
to BBC Yorkshire region - 56 masts.
ITV Calendar 1.9m homes 7.4%
from Leeds LS3 1JS, 22km north-northeast (16°)
to ITV Yorkshire (Emley Moor) region - 59 masts.
All of lunch, weekend and 80% evening news is shared with Belmont region
Are there any self-help relays?
Derwent B | Active deflector | 74 homes | |
Derwent C | Active deflector | (second level) | |
Dunford Bridge | Active deflector | 14 km S Huddersfield | 15 homes |
Hmp Leeds | Transposer | 30 homes | |
Thixendale | Transposer | 25 km ENE York | 40 homes |
How will the Emley Moor (Kirklees, England) transmission frequencies change over time?
1956-80s | 1984-97 | 1997-98 | 1998-2011 | 2011-13 | 5 Feb 2020 | ||||
VHF | B E T | B E T | B E T | B E T | W T | ||||
C10 | ITVwaves | ||||||||
C32 | com7 | ||||||||
C33 | SDN | ||||||||
C34 | com8 | ||||||||
C36 | ArqA | ||||||||
C37 | C5waves | C5waves | |||||||
C39 | _local | ||||||||
C41 | C4waves | C4waves | C4waves | BBCB | BBCB | ||||
C44 | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | D3+4 | D3+4 | ||||
C47 | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | BBCA | BBCA | ||||
C48 | ArqB | ArqB | |||||||
C51tv_off | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | SDN | |||||
C52tv_off | ArqA | ||||||||
C55tv_off | com7tv_off | ||||||||
C56tv_off | LLS |
tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 7 Sep 11 and 21 Sep 11.
How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?
Analogue 1-5 | 870kW | |
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB | (-7dB) 174kW | |
com7 | (-12dB) 54.8kW | |
com8 | (-12.3dB) 51.2kW | |
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux B*, Mux C* | (-19.4dB) 10kW | |
Mux A*, LLS | (-22.4dB) 5kW | |
Mux D* | (-23.4dB) 4kW |
Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Emley Moor transmitter area
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Saturday, 15 October 2011
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jb384:35 PM
Dave Lindsay: No two devices have the same sensitivity, and the problems you are having with the Sony is likely because its a bit less sensitive and as such demands a better signal, the signal indications you have given not being particularly sparkling considering the power that Emley Moor is transmitting on.
You could maybe clarify another point though, this regarding the problem being seen when only the Sony is switched on, are you meaning when the aerial is only connected to it and nothing else? because if the aerial is still coupled to the other devices then try it whilst its disconnected from them, as you haven't said anything about the method used to split the aerial between these devices, and if you are using some form of passive splitter then the more that's connected into it the less the signal will be to each device, this applying whether they are switched on or not, powered splitters always being best for this type of thing unless a person sited within a very strong signal area not that far away from the transmitter, you being 25 miles away from Emley Moor.
That said though, I feel that irrespective of answers given the situation could likely be improved by spending some time on re-positioning your aerial within the loft, as most people who fits an aerial into a loft usually plumps for the easiest spot to fix it in, irrespective of the fact that it might not necessarily be the best spot for the signal.
On the subject of the aerial, if it was working OK before switchover then there is no reason whatsoever why it shouldn't be now "if" you are picking up from the same station as before, as since analogue days right up to the present your aerial has always been a group B.
You could probably benefit by replacing the co-ax though!
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Sunday, 16 October 2011
Briantist: Thanks. I read the page about too much signal being bad a while ago and as a result, was reminded of it when I experienced repeated freezing. I got a variable antennuator (like the one shown in the photograph on that page) and even when the signal strength is attentuated to around 40% (from about 85%) on the most troublesome mux, it makes no difference.
jb38: You have confirmed the conclusion I was coming to: That is that it is an aerial/downlead problem. I'm now using another aerial and it's working just fine.
What threw me was the fact that the Panasonic and Hauppauge work perfectly fine (connected to the same aerial, tuned to the same channel at the same time). That is, listening to all three devices at the same time, only the Sony breaks-up. However, I do appreciate that not all devices are identical.
There is another loft aerial for another room and I've run a coax extension from there to the Sony's input (which was fed from my aerial). So far, so good, no break-up, even though the strength from that aerial is 85% (with no attentuator).
The reason I introduced the passive splitter was so as to allow the amp in the Sony to be turned off when it's in standby. Thus, if it didn't work (using the splitter), then there would be no need to get a powered one because I have one! (All devices are within a metre or so of one another.)
This aerial worked just fine pre-DSO, even during the snow.
I think that the most likely cause is reflections caused by a large warehouse (nearly half a mile long) which was built a number of years ago (ghosting appeared at that time). It is a couple of miles away at about 140 degrees from the direction that the aerial faces. The rooftop aerial also suffered from ghosting on analogue.
It was particularly bad (not terrible by any means though) with my loft aerial on BBC Two analogue, which was on C51, which is now occupied by the mux that is freezing the most. I think it's fair to assume that any such reflected digital signals would have been small (negligible maybe) pre-DSO and increased considerably now.
I remember watching the snooker on analogue (on BBC Two) and seeing a dark impression of the queue ball part way over the screen from the proper one. Does this suggest an inverted reflection?
Mark Fletcher: When I retuned at DSO, I made sure that my tuners were on Emley Moor. Sometimes they do get Belmont. In the past with analogue I tuned presets 5 to 9 (or 6 to 10) to Belmont. Even with the aerial being in the opposite direction, it came in quite strong.
Most Doncastrians seem to be on Emley, except for a few places where the topography doesn't allow. Belmont broadcasts different local news so I would never consider it unless there was no other option.
I've looked extensively at ATV's website. It's excellent with lots of information on how things work, as well as the online shop.
The reason for the DIY purchase from Argos in the early 90s was because that was the only real option! Now the internet has come along, there are many more choices.
I don't hesitate when say that I wouldn't buy the cheap DIY crap again!
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Monday, 17 October 2011
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Thomas7:11 AM
Since switchover, I've had hardly any break-up or No Signal conditions on my Freeview sets. I'm still waiting for a very windy day though, to see if the TV can tolerate it now that the signal strength is better...
I think it may even be slightly too strong, as I have the issue with my Panasonic TV showing quality as very weak then jumping up to full. (53.8505,-1.5138)
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Tuesday, 18 October 2011
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Brian Springthorpe6:20 PM
I have a question for Briantist.
In Penmaenmawr in North Wales the number of Freeview channels that we get is probably a complete list, including all the +1 hour and Film 4 and Dave etc.
We regularly go upto the Yorkshire Dales and the Lake District on walking holidays and either stay over in pubs or rent a cottage. We have just come back from a very nice break in Kirkby Lonsdale.
When I switch the provided televisions on in these regions, there isn't the same comprehensive listing that we get here in North Wales. It was noted that chaneels such as Film 4 and Dave plus a load of others were missing from the list. What you would call the major channels, such as ITV1, which normally have a +1 hour channel running, were there but ITV2, 3 and 4 didn't.
I tried retuning but could only get those channels. I checked the parental settings on the TV but the settings were witched to off.
So why can't we watch Film 4 or Dave etc. in Kirkby Lonsdale?
We are going back there in April next year. If its a matter of taking a set top box to cure the problem I can manage that, but I suspect it is something more.
Please help!
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Steve6:37 PM
Kendal
Brian - if you were picking up from Kendal Fell relay mast in Kirkby Lonsdale (the nearest) then this is a Freeview Light transmitter and only has the public service channels - see the transmitter details on this site. If you could pick up Lancaster then this has the full range. Clue - Lancaster broadcasts Granada ITV, Kendal has Border.
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Wednesday, 19 October 2011
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mike Roberts 6:04 PM
Wigan
HI why is it I have good signal strength from the ITV and BBC multiplexes, and weak signal from the rest of of them like the ITV3 multiplex. I realise i am out of the Emily more area but I thought they were all at the same strength now? I am In Aspull Wigan WN2 1SZ
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Brian Springthorpe7:21 PM
Carnforth
Steve,
Can KL actually see the Lancaster transmitter?
KL is so low in the LUNE Valley and the fells seem quite high on the south side.
Do you know anyone for certain that is pointing at Lancaster from Kirkby Lonsdale?
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mike Roberts : You should be using the Winter Hill transmitter, from which you will receive all services at full strength.
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Thursday, 20 October 2011
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mike Roberts 1:16 AM
Wigan
hi Briantist yes i am aware my local transmitter is winter Hill but was just wondering why certain multiplexes from emily moor were weaker then others when i thought they were all now at the same strength.
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