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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - AM: Radio 4 on MW has now closed. Please retune to FM, Digital Radio, digital TV, BBC Sounds or smart speakers to continue listening. More information can be found on the front page of this Reception Advice website. from 15 Apr 00:00. . BBC


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
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3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Thursday, 16 February 2012
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jb38
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

4:54 PM

Steve: The reception predictions seen for your post code does not for the time being indicate very promising, insomuch that your present reception of Sudbury's PSB muxes plus SDN (ITV3 etc) is about the only choice you have, even at that the SDN mux is indicated as being variable, meaning that glitches in reception can be expected.

I don't feel that you would really achieve anything by changing your aerial as the missing muxes (ArqA & ArqB) are not indicated as being possible to receive anyway, and so called high gain aerials have a lot of hype attached to what they can actually achieve, as the only time that they "might" give a positive improvement is in circumstances where exceptional distances of a near line-of-site nature are involved, your situation at 19 miles not being!

However, from June 27th you should be able to receive all six muxes from Sudbury when the presently low powered commercial muxes also start transmitting on high power, as the PSB muxes are presently doing.

By the way, you are not predicted to have good reception from Crystal Palace at any time and that's right into 2014.

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steve bevan
8:40 PM
Maldon

jb38. Thanks for your help, much appreciated.

I just noticed that the "enhanced Freeview reception prediction" for my post code CM9 4SF shows Blue Bell Hill as the 1st choice (Dover is 2nd choice). It's a line-of-sight transmitter but 29 miles away, isn't that a bit too far on it's current low power? No point in waiting for BBH to go to full power as Sudbury changes at similar time.

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jb38
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

9:48 PM

steve bevan: Well although predictors (any!) do have their faults because they cannot really cater properly for reception problems that may be in existence caused by for instance the local terrain, the Digital UK's trade view predictor (link below) which I use as a guide shows Bluebell Hill in effect as being no-go for your area, as everything seen is a mixture of poor or variable, or in some cases nothing at all.

Dover on the other hand is of course shown as presently being possible, but as far as reliability is concerned this only really applies to the PSB muxes, as although from 27th June two of the three commercial muxes may well come on board but with the permanent status of variable, and not even good at that! and nothing at all shown for the ArqB multiplex.

There would be nothing stopping you from experimenting as in nearly every iffy reception area little pockets of good reception exist, but rather than changing the aerial which as aforementioned wouldn't in my opinion really achieve anything, using an amplifier of about 15dB or so inline with it, the dB figure mentioned being ideal for experiments.

Postcode Checker - Trade View

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Saturday, 18 February 2012
lisa
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

2:28 PM

Does anyone know if the +/- 167 offsets will still be used on Crystal Palace after Digital Switchover?

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Graham
2:55 PM
Camberley

Postcode GU15 1ER, aerial pointed at Crystal Palace, with high gain roof aerial and booster amp, feeding 2 Sony TVs. Previously received 104 channels on Freeview. Now receive 42 channels on Muxes 1, B and C only with signal good and additionally Mux 2 on the other TV with high signal. To me this looks like a signal level issue from Xtal Palace. I've obviously done all the checks suggested. Any other thoughts?

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jb38
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7:46 PM

lisa: Its really a case of them moving channels rather than completely disappearing, as from April 18th the only channels that they will apply to is Mux Ch30- (HD service) and ArqB (Yesterday / Film4 etc) Mux Ch28-.

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g.checkley
9:33 PM
Reading

hi I am on the edge of your range at RG5 4LY and have 63% signel and 90% quality on my freeveiw+ box. had a new aerial fitted this week but still have subtitles missing on recording and occaisonally have slight picture breakdown . could this be due to work on change over and could this error go away after your change over in april?
thankyou G Checkley

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Dave Lindsay
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11:03 PM

g.checkley: The power will be increased at switchover which should solve your problems.

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Sunday, 19 February 2012
lisa
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

1:24 PM

Will the Crystal Palace transmitter still use the 167 offset frequencies after DSO?

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lisa
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1:34 PM

Thanks jb38, just seen your answer, I may have accidentally cross posted.

So, is there somewhere online that lists the exact frequencies that CP will be transmitting on (including the offsets if appropriate) post DSO?

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