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The symbol shows the location of the Dover (Kent, England) transmitter which serves 190,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Dover (Kent, England) mast?

Dover transmitter - Dover transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 25/11/2024 Pixelation or flickering on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Dover transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C33 (570.0MHz)370mDTG-80,000W
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1 BBC One (SD) South East, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C35 (586.0MHz)370mDTG-80,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (Meridian (East micro region)), 4 Channel 4 (SD) South ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 South ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (Meridian south coast), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C36 (594.0MHz)370mDTG-80,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD South East, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV Meridian Southampton), 104 Channel 4 HD South ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H -3dB
C39 (618.0MHz)370mDTG-840,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H -3dB
C42 (642.0MHz)370mDTG-840,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H -3dB
C48 (690.0MHz)370mDTG-840,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

The Dover (Kent, England) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: .

If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Dover transmitter?

regional news image
BBC South East Today 0.8m homes 3.2%
from Tunbridge Wells TN1 1QQ, 69km west (270°)
to BBC South East region - 45 masts.
regional news image
ITV Meridian News 0.7m homes 2.7%
from Maidstone ME14 5NZ, 52km west-northwest (289°)
to ITV Meridian (East) region - 36 masts.
All of lunch, weekend and 50% evening news is shared with all of Meridian plus Oxford

How will the Dover (Kent, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1960-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1316 Oct 2019
VHFC/D EC/D EC/D EC/D E TW T
C10ITVwaves
C33BBCA
C35D3+4
C36BBCB
C39SDN
C42ArqA
C48ArqBArqB
C50tv_offBBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBCA
C51tv_offD3+4
C53tv_offC4wavesC4wavesC4wavesBBCB
C55tv_offSDN
C56tv_offBBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2waves
C57tv_off_local_local
C59tv_offArqA
C66ITVwavesITVwavesITVwaves

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 13 Jun 12 and 27 Jun 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 100kW
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-1dB) 80kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB(-4dB) 40kW
Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*(-17dB) 2kW
Mux 1*, Mux C*(-20dB) 1000W
Mux D*(-23dB) 500W

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Dover transmitter area

Aug 1958-Jan 1992Southern Television
Jan 1982-Dec 1992Television South (TVS)
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Meridian
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only.

Comments
Wednesday, 22 August 2012
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Nick
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9:36 AM
Farnham

Don't know about that, JB. I am in Aldeburgh and Hollesley, both get full Dover service, but lately lost Sudbury muxes on ch 56, 58 and 60.
Good reception from France on Dover aerial.
I have concluded that it is continental doings that are destroying reception on the coast from Sudbury, but Dover is unaffected. Also note Sudbury are playing with tx again.

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10:12 AM

Nick: Based on what you say, I believe that C60 from Sudbury is the worst for you. When it is at its worst, can you receive anything from the Continent on that channel with the aerial facing the Continent?

I understand that the Netherlands and a lot of Belgium use vertical polarised signals, so it might be worth seeing if reception is better that way.

A list of French transmitters with UHF channels is here:

http://tvignaud.pagespers….pdf

Does anyone know of similar lists for other countries?

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Nick
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10:34 AM
Farnham

Thanks Dave,
This is what is so hard to understand. c60 is definitely the worst, yet putting the aerial to Holland, or France, on that channel receives nothing.
I will not put the aerial to vertical, they are enough trouble horizontal.
I have also been trying Tac. Under 'normal' conditions I can get most muxes, if not all, but most are currently wiped out.
I will be interested to see if Dover continues to come in in winter, when analogue was weak, and if Sudbury improves. Meanwhile, all is upside down, seems like I need one aerial for winter, and another for summer. Long overdue that they sorted out those foreigners. I have now asked around. Lots of locals given up on freeview.
Sudbury c56, 58, and especially 60, one minute 97%, the next, gone. 41 and 44 almost always fine.

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1:13 PM
Farnham

Nick: I only queried this because when I seen your posting listed in "UK.Free TV / Your Comments / Last 50" (as copied and pasted in below) with the Guildford post code specifically printed in brackets at the end of your posting, this "not" seen on the actual posting as Briantist's site scrubs anything in brackets positioned at the end of a posting, I was rather intrigued by this as I am aware that Woodbridge is your usual postal code area.

By the way the Digital UK tradeview predictor also indicates the GU post code and still does on your last posting to Dave, and why Farnham is shown under your name / day / posting made time.

Go up to the very top of the page, and on the right hand side under "Site Settings" make sure that the settings are cleared and that your correct post code is entered.

Heading referred to:
Freeview on the Dover transmitter: Nick All fine from Dover here in Suffolk, unlike our own transmitters.

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1:20 PM

Nick: Another attempt at giving the item referred to

Freeview on the Dover transmitter: Nick All fine from Dover here in Suffolk, unlike our own transmitters. (GU90LT)

The brackets were cut off again in the item copied and pasted into this reply box as they were at the end of "my" posting, so hopefully this additional text "might" stop it happening again.

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1:32 PM
Farnham

JB, thanks.
I was looking up the xmitter for a friend in Upper Hale....seems I should have cleared something.

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1:40 PM
Aldeburgh

JB,
I can get Clacton for local BBC and ITV but have to turn aerial slightly from Dover. I was considering making a short tribeam, 10 element, in an attempt to get Dover for most channels and Clacton for local. What do you think?
What contortions I have to go through. I wonder what they are currently doing to the Sudbury xmitter.

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Friday, 24 August 2012
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John McConnell
1:46 PM
Margate

Dave Lindsay
Friday 27 July 2012 1:15PM
John McConnell: The terrestrial Freeview service could be being affected by co-channel interference. See the inversion effect. This does not affect satellite services.

As we seem to have discovered Dave, they had the bright idea of setting up a "light" transmitter on Millmead, which although several stories high as lower than ALL of Margate to the N/Ne of it. In fact the building is placed in a vale, so as you pointed out would serve Tivoli OK.
YET! Prior to digital transmissions, analogue TV for mainly BBC channels was better with almost no loss.
I guess you could say the increased power output now from Dover makes NO difference to Millmead, similar to using explovies with 2 sides uncovered, the blast goes nowhere near intended.
Unless they can figure out a way to bend signals I would say the people on my side of Margate are being unfairly taxed to pay for something they cannot receive. If the commercials channels did this, it would be called fraud.
I have raised this with Laura Sandys, and have received complaints forms to pass out to those I know are affected (mainly elderly pensioners), to provide her with sufficient information to raise in the House (again).

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3:07 PM

John McConnell: It is the case that post-switchover Margate uses Group C/D channels, whereas for the former analogue channels were Group A ones.

Group C/D is the top third of the band of frequencies used for TV. Group A is the bottom third.

Consequently, viewers using Millmead "may" have a Group A aerial whose sensitivity isn't sufficient on the higher C/D channels.


Dover was C/D before switchover and remains so. The reason for Margate changing Group was so that it could become a Single Frequency Network with Dover that is they broadcast (PSBs only) on the same channels/frequencies, something which works OK for digital signals, but not for analogue.

I wonder, and perhaps one of the pros could give their thoughts on this, whether the difficulty experienced by those whose aerials face Dover, is that the vertically polarised signals from Margate are coming in stronger, perhaps off-beam as well (depending on location), and as a result that this could be the source of poor pictures.

I wonder if the solution may be to re-orientate Dover aerials of affected viewers on to the Margate transmitter (also switching them to vertical polarisation).


I am not dismissing the possibility that your part of town is unable to receive from Millmead now. However:

1. I wonder how sure it is that the difficulties with poor reception have not been greatly reduced due to the increase in power; how can we be sure if no one has tried?

2. I wonder if the poor reception from Dover is being caused by the vertically polarised signals being radiated from Millmead.


Also, if some of the terrain is above the height of the Millmead transmitter, then why might it have difficulty receiving from Dover directly? After all, Dover can be received from the roof of the building on which the transmitter is sited (which you say is lower).

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5:32 PM
Aldeburgh

Come to Suffolk, Dover fine here.
We have similar problems with a 'light' service only from our local transmitter at Aldeburgh who put out, for example, ITV 1plus 1 rather than ITV 3. Our main transmitter at Sudbury is very iffy for the non basic channels but fine for the main ones, can't win, except for opting for Dover.

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