Full Freeview on the Dover (Kent, England) transmitter
Brian Butterworth first published this on - UK Free TV
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The symbol shows the location of the Dover (Kent, England) transmitter which serves 190,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.
This transmitter has no current reported problems
The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Dover (Kent, England) transmitter._______
Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
The Dover (Kent, England) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: .
If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.
Which Freeview channels does the Dover transmitter broadcast?
If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.
64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)
The Dover (Kent, England) mast is a public service broadcasting (PSB) transmitter, it does not provide these commercial (COM) channels: .
If you want to watch these channels, your aerial must point to one of the 80 Full service Freeview transmitters. For more information see the will there ever be more services on the Freeview Light transmitters? page.
Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Dover transmitter?
BBC South East Today 0.8m homes 3.2%
from Tunbridge Wells TN1 1QQ, 69km west (270°)
to BBC South East region - 45 masts.
ITV Meridian News 0.7m homes 2.7%
from Maidstone ME14 5NZ, 52km west-northwest (289°)
to ITV Meridian (East) region - 36 masts.
All of lunch, weekend and 50% evening news is shared with all of Meridian plus Oxford
How will the Dover (Kent, England) transmission frequencies change over time?
1960-80s | 1984-97 | 1997-98 | 1998-2012 | 2012-13 | 16 Oct 2019 | ||||
VHF | C/D E | C/D E | C/D E | C/D E T | W T | ||||
C10 | ITVwaves | ||||||||
C33 | BBCA | ||||||||
C35 | D3+4 | ||||||||
C36 | BBCB | ||||||||
C39 | SDN | ||||||||
C42 | ArqA | ||||||||
C48 | ArqB | ArqB | |||||||
C50tv_off | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | BBC1waves | BBCA | |||||
C51tv_off | D3+4 | ||||||||
C53tv_off | C4waves | C4waves | C4waves | BBCB | |||||
C55tv_off | SDN | ||||||||
C56tv_off | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | BBC2waves | ||||||
C57tv_off | _local | _local | |||||||
C59tv_off | ArqA | ||||||||
C66 | ITVwaves | ITVwaves | ITVwaves |
tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 13 Jun 12 and 27 Jun 12.
How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?
Analogue 1-4 | 100kW | |
BBCA, D3+4, BBCB | (-1dB) 80kW | |
SDN, ARQA, ARQB | (-4dB) 40kW | |
Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B* | (-17dB) 2kW | |
Mux 1*, Mux C* | (-20dB) 1000W | |
Mux D* | (-23dB) 500W |
Local transmitter maps
Dover Freeview Dover DAB Dover TV region BBC South East Meridian (East micro region)Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Dover transmitter area
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Wednesday, 22 August 2012
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Nick9:36 AM
Farnham
Don't know about that, JB. I am in Aldeburgh and Hollesley, both get full Dover service, but lately lost Sudbury muxes on ch 56, 58 and 60.
Good reception from France on Dover aerial.
I have concluded that it is continental doings that are destroying reception on the coast from Sudbury, but Dover is unaffected. Also note Sudbury are playing with tx again.
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Nick: Based on what you say, I believe that C60 from Sudbury is the worst for you. When it is at its worst, can you receive anything from the Continent on that channel with the aerial facing the Continent?
I understand that the Netherlands and a lot of Belgium use vertical polarised signals, so it might be worth seeing if reception is better that way.
A list of French transmitters with UHF channels is here:
http://tvignaud.pagespers….pdf
Does anyone know of similar lists for other countries?
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Nick10:34 AM
Farnham
Thanks Dave,
This is what is so hard to understand. c60 is definitely the worst, yet putting the aerial to Holland, or France, on that channel receives nothing.
I will not put the aerial to vertical, they are enough trouble horizontal.
I have also been trying Tac. Under 'normal' conditions I can get most muxes, if not all, but most are currently wiped out.
I will be interested to see if Dover continues to come in in winter, when analogue was weak, and if Sudbury improves. Meanwhile, all is upside down, seems like I need one aerial for winter, and another for summer. Long overdue that they sorted out those foreigners. I have now asked around. Lots of locals given up on freeview.
Sudbury c56, 58, and especially 60, one minute 97%, the next, gone. 41 and 44 almost always fine.
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jb381:13 PM
Farnham
Nick: I only queried this because when I seen your posting listed in "UK.Free TV / Your Comments / Last 50" (as copied and pasted in below) with the Guildford post code specifically printed in brackets at the end of your posting, this "not" seen on the actual posting as Briantist's site scrubs anything in brackets positioned at the end of a posting, I was rather intrigued by this as I am aware that Woodbridge is your usual postal code area.
By the way the Digital UK tradeview predictor also indicates the GU post code and still does on your last posting to Dave, and why Farnham is shown under your name / day / posting made time.
Go up to the very top of the page, and on the right hand side under "Site Settings" make sure that the settings are cleared and that your correct post code is entered.
Heading referred to:
Freeview on the Dover transmitter: Nick All fine from Dover here in Suffolk, unlike our own transmitters.
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jb381:20 PM
Nick: Another attempt at giving the item referred to
Freeview on the Dover transmitter: Nick All fine from Dover here in Suffolk, unlike our own transmitters. (GU90LT)
The brackets were cut off again in the item copied and pasted into this reply box as they were at the end of "my" posting, so hopefully this additional text "might" stop it happening again.
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Nick1:32 PM
Farnham
JB, thanks.
I was looking up the xmitter for a friend in Upper Hale....seems I should have cleared something.
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Nick1:40 PM
Aldeburgh
JB,
I can get Clacton for local BBC and ITV but have to turn aerial slightly from Dover. I was considering making a short tribeam, 10 element, in an attempt to get Dover for most channels and Clacton for local. What do you think?
What contortions I have to go through. I wonder what they are currently doing to the Sudbury xmitter.
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Friday, 24 August 2012
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John McConnell1:46 PM
Margate
Dave Lindsay
Friday 27 July 2012 1:15PM
John McConnell: The terrestrial Freeview service could be being affected by co-channel interference. See the inversion effect. This does not affect satellite services.
As we seem to have discovered Dave, they had the bright idea of setting up a "light" transmitter on Millmead, which although several stories high as lower than ALL of Margate to the N/Ne of it. In fact the building is placed in a vale, so as you pointed out would serve Tivoli OK.
YET! Prior to digital transmissions, analogue TV for mainly BBC channels was better with almost no loss.
I guess you could say the increased power output now from Dover makes NO difference to Millmead, similar to using explovies with 2 sides uncovered, the blast goes nowhere near intended.
Unless they can figure out a way to bend signals I would say the people on my side of Margate are being unfairly taxed to pay for something they cannot receive. If the commercials channels did this, it would be called fraud.
I have raised this with Laura Sandys, and have received complaints forms to pass out to those I know are affected (mainly elderly pensioners), to provide her with sufficient information to raise in the House (again).
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John McConnell: It is the case that post-switchover Margate uses Group C/D channels, whereas for the former analogue channels were Group A ones.
Group C/D is the top third of the band of frequencies used for TV. Group A is the bottom third.
Consequently, viewers using Millmead "may" have a Group A aerial whose sensitivity isn't sufficient on the higher C/D channels.
Dover was C/D before switchover and remains so. The reason for Margate changing Group was so that it could become a Single Frequency Network with Dover that is they broadcast (PSBs only) on the same channels/frequencies, something which works OK for digital signals, but not for analogue.
I wonder, and perhaps one of the pros could give their thoughts on this, whether the difficulty experienced by those whose aerials face Dover, is that the vertically polarised signals from Margate are coming in stronger, perhaps off-beam as well (depending on location), and as a result that this could be the source of poor pictures.
I wonder if the solution may be to re-orientate Dover aerials of affected viewers on to the Margate transmitter (also switching them to vertical polarisation).
I am not dismissing the possibility that your part of town is unable to receive from Millmead now. However:
1. I wonder how sure it is that the difficulties with poor reception have not been greatly reduced due to the increase in power; how can we be sure if no one has tried?
2. I wonder if the poor reception from Dover is being caused by the vertically polarised signals being radiated from Millmead.
Also, if some of the terrain is above the height of the Millmead transmitter, then why might it have difficulty receiving from Dover directly? After all, Dover can be received from the roof of the building on which the transmitter is sited (which you say is lower).
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Nick5:32 PM
Aldeburgh
Come to Suffolk, Dover fine here.
We have similar problems with a 'light' service only from our local transmitter at Aldeburgh who put out, for example, ITV 1plus 1 rather than ITV 3. Our main transmitter at Sudbury is very iffy for the non basic channels but fine for the main ones, can't win, except for opting for Dover.
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