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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

Crystal Palace transmitter - Crystal Palace transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 18/11/2024 Screen may go black on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Tuesday, 4 August 2020
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js
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4:31 AM

James Bevan: Whatever the fault was, or is, it was likely at your end.

Anyway, it's good to know it's working, but I do hate not knowing why.

BTW, this got fixed by replacing the board:

LCN missing since June freeview reshuffle | AVForums


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Monday, 21 September 2020
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Andy Hurley
1:32 PM

PSB1 has been playing up over the past few days (not sure if it is longer than that as we were away) but we have been unable to watch BBC channels and sometimes on PSB2 as well although the HD channels on PSB3 seem ok.

It's probably atmospherics but odd no-one is reporting it on here as we have never had a similar problem in the 4 years we have lived here.

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Seema Willey
7:38 PM

Crystal Palace freeview was unavailable in Luton this morning 21st Sept 2020 around 9am-11am, locally widespread. Was there a temperature inversion?

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Chris.SE
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11:26 PM

Andy Hurley:

Well I've been posting this on some other transmitter pages as people have been raising problems.
There's been a lot of "Tropospheric Ducting" around causing interference, see Effect of tropospheric ducting on Freeview | RTIS for a simplistic explanation.
It's may continue on and off for a day or two more.

Seema Willey:

Quite correct, it is temperature inversion tyoe issues as commented above :)

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Tuesday, 22 September 2020
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David C Warner
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9:08 PM

Since March I have not been able to receive COM SEVEN on either of my two TV sets via the loft aerial.
Yesterday I noticed evidence of leaf fall beneath the large trees across the street.
I now have partial reception of COM SEVEN HD stations + PBS+ONE on the upstairs set.
Does my location have Seasonal Affective Disorder?
Will I finally achieve full FREEVIEW HD?
And will COM SEVEN be closed down in November as per your linking article????

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Wednesday, 23 September 2020
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Chris.SE
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6:51 AM

David C Warner:

You may (or should) recall the lengthy post I made for you on the 2nd June which included information about trees and multipath signals My Freeview box has no EPG, is blank on FIVE, ITV3, ITV4, ITV2+1, has no sound o | free and easy
You never said whether you completed (or did) any experimenting with the position of your loft aerial after the end of June to see what effect it had on the multipath and if it changed the situation regarding your COM7 signal!
Oh, btw manual tuning (if a set allows it) is more likely to find a signal that is borderline cliff edge and/or heavily pixillated as it only requires small changes in the signal to decode it and you can repeat it several times until such time as it does find it, I'm sure I've mentioned in the past about the use of manual tuning to try and find missing multiplexes.

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David C Warner
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7:42 PM

Chris.SE: The answer to your question is multi-part
a - I gave up going up into the roof in May as I wasn't getting anywhere
b- both TVs do allow manual tuning
c- I agree that this is a digital cliff-edge situation.
As it happens it has been raining today - so signal iis so erratic as to be useless on PBS + etc.
I attribute this to water on the slates.
Did you have any current information about whether COM seven is going off air in November.
If it is I won't bother climbing the ladder into the loft.
If Com seven is staying for a while it might be worth having another go.
Meanwhile thank God Sky Arts came on a non-HD mux . At least everyone can watch it.


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Chris.SE
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11:38 PM

David C Warner:

There are (to the best of my knowledge) NO plans for COM7 to go off-air in November. The updated licence runs until June 2022 with the proviso that when the 700MHz auction has taken place, IF any MNOs have bought the centre gap frequencies which are allocated for SDL (Supplemental Down Link), they may give 3 months notice to Arqiva that they want to use them.
The situation is essentially as I posted here Rebuilding Freeview High Definition from 2019 onwards | free and easy

I don't know who is spreading such rumours, I note there is some misleading information published on this site in various places. OFCOM have announced that bidding in the auction will start sometime in January 2021.
The 700MHz spectrum is being auctioned in 6 lots of 2x5MHz blocks with a reserve price of 100m per lot for the FDD (Frequency Division Duplexing) paired spectrum portions, and 4 lots of 5Mhz in the SDL(Supplemental DownLink) portion with a reserve price of 1m per lot. I think those reserve prices suggest the SDL portion is not likely to get the same amount of "interest" from MNOs as the FDD lots!

AFAIK base station equipment to use SDL in the 700MHz band would need to be developed (and installed) and similarly handsets needing to be developed and marketed. IMHO the earliest that this might be available could be mid-2021, but I suspect it will be later (IF anyone buys it!).


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Thursday, 24 September 2020
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David C Warner
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10:06 PM

Chris.SE: Thanks - that is clear enough.

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Tuesday, 13 October 2020
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David
10:23 PM

Hi, during the last re-tune we lost the HD news channels and 4HD+1 (group a aerial) are we likely to get them back anytime soon, or do I need a new aerial? Many thanks.

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