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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - AM: Radio 4 on MW has now closed. Please retune to FM, Digital Radio, digital TV, BBC Sounds or smart speakers to continue listening. More information can be found on the front page of this Reception Advice website. from 15 Apr 00:00. . BBC


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
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1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Wednesday, 9 November 2011
Briantist
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10:03 PM

Malcolm Springett: I would have a look at the Single frequency interference | ukfree.tv - independent free digital TV advice page. There are no transmitter problems.

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D French
10:41 PM

I live in Epsom. We lost freeview ITV1, ITV2, Channel4 and Channel5 on Friday 21st October 2011. Don't know why. All other channels fine.

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Andy
11:24 PM
East Molesey

I am the same as Malcolm Springett and have lost previously available HD channels in the last 2 weeks. Looking at the Crystal Palace coverage chart, there is a mysterious hole exactly where I live. Any ideas why anyone please?

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Thursday, 10 November 2011
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Malcolm Springett
12:20 AM
London

So it seems so far nobody has Freeview HD from CP?
Brian I take the point about single frequency interference but nothing has been added in my house to generate it (am BBC Radio engineer btw) If it is single freq interference then it might be from next door but surely a brick wall would be enough to stop that?

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Briantist
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6:49 AM

Malcolm Springett: The BBC report that Freeview HD is operating normallly from Crystal Palace. Some people have a problem as C31 is also used for SDN on Sandy Heath, but that should not effect you.

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Malcolm Springett
11:23 AM
London

Thanks for that Brian - I myself atempted to contact Arquiva who run the sight but had to do it via BBC duty managers who reported that they are informed by Arquiva remote managment systems that all is ok. HOwever having had dealings before with privatised parts of broadcasting sometimes the correct information is mislaid. I would still be intereste to know if anybody is actually receving Freeview HD off air from Crystal Palace on C31 as currently my box says not. Now my box could suddenly be fauly but it would seems strange if all of a sudden it picks up nothing on C31. It is more likely that the mux service id and programme id tables produced at CP are corrupted. However if anybody else is receiving things ok on C31 then it is time for me to eat humble pie and replace the box. So far on this forum all I am hearing is HD freview has been "lost". I am actually considering getting a cheap HD set top box just to test the signal anyway

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Briantist
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2:31 PM

Malcolm Springett: I would say that as the Crystal Palace transmitter is providing Freeview HD services to millions of homes in the London area, if the four HD channels were missing from everyone then people would notice.

Given that the headquaters of the BBC, ITV plc and Channel 4 are all within the reception area, I am sure they would notice if their HD service was off within a matter of seconds.

Also Arqiva, who run the network have extensive automatic monitoring systems that are able to detect and correct faults within microseconds.

This doesn't mean you don't have a reception issue, but it could still not be one caused by a transmitter faults.

One common cause of this kind of problem in the past, when it was not down to an in-home problem, has been faulty street lighting or security lighting.

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Colin Wray
4:44 PM

I think Sandy Heath on C31 has a greater range and therefore effect on CP than people realise.

I have a band A aerial targetting CP and 108 degrees away from SH which is 21 miles distant behind high ground, but get a good signal which blanks CP C31 and enables me to receive C27 quite well.

Fortunately I also have an OX aerial so get HD on C57 from there.

This problem arose when DSO was completed at SH and they turned up the power. It will be resolved in April 2012 when CP completes.

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Briantist
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5:55 PM

Colin Wray: You might expect this, the signal levels at Crystal Palace, as a "preview" service are very low.

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