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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Thursday, 9 February 2012
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Mike Dimmick
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2:22 PM

Alex: The HD channels are on lower power than the other multiplexes at present, and the multiplex also uses the same channel as one of the SD multiplexes from Reigate, at the moment.

This will change on 18 April: the HD services will move, taking over Channel 4 analogue's frequency, and be boosted to the same high power as the other multiplexes' new power levels - 20x the current power level.

Night-time does tend to cause interfering signals to travel further, something called 'tropospheric enhancement'.

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Friday, 10 February 2012
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David
12:29 AM

Alex. The HD channel is also at a higher bit rate, which means that it needs a better signal to noise ratio. This means that it is at a disadvantage of more than the factor of 2 implied by the relative transmit power, when compared with ITV multiplexes and even more when compared with BBC ones. It will still be at a disadvantage when it goes to full power in April.

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Peter G
9:11 PM

I live in dartford and a a day or two ago I've lost bbc 1+ 2 bbc news bbc 3.

I've tried to retune however it just picks up itv and the other channels


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Mike Dimmick
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10:12 PM

David, Alex: That is not true. The DVB-T2 standard is just that much more efficient than DVB-T (reflecting nearly 15 years more development). The mode selected for the BBC B multiplex is only very slightly less robust than the post-switchover mode for the other multiplexes, which is about the same as for Mux 2 and Mux A now. The difference in radiation pattern between two channels is typically larger than the difference in the margin required between a DVB-T and DVB-T2 multiplex.

Now that the commercial multiplexes are going to use 64QAM 3/4 mode, not 64QAM 2/3 as BBC A and D3&4 will, the HD multiplex should definitely be more robust than them.

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Sunday, 12 February 2012
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maureen
4:14 PM

My nephew bought a digital tv (December) with no inbuilt freeview-as he is a teenager can someone please help him with firstly which reasonably priced box he would need and any other information that might help
Thank's

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jb38
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5:01 PM

maureen: I find it quite amazing that he managed to buy a analogue only TV unless from some second hand source, is he absolutely positive that it is purely an analogue set and that DVB isn't seen mentioned on the remote control?

However, any of these low priced Freeview boxes seen in places like Argos etc should be perfectly suffice for his needs provided the TV he purchased does have a scart socket?
if not then any Freeview box purchased has to be of the type with an RF modulator so that the signal can be fed into the TV's aerial socket.

Of course needless to say he will require a suitable aerial, although advice on this only being possible by having knowledge of his post code, this to enable checking of the signal level expected at his location.

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Adrian
6:36 PM

Thanks Brian but I don't have a set top box, the arial goes straight into the TV.

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jb38
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8:11 PM

Adrian: You are indicated as being only 4 miles away from Crystal Palace and as such very prone to suffer from severe signal overloading problems, and indeed likely be unable to get any reception at all come April 18th when Crystal Palace goes over to high power operation, as the signal will grossly overload the tuner in your TV.

If you have a set top aerial lying around try a test using that to see what happens on your Freeview channels, if it helps the situation then you will require to use an attenuator in line with the aerial socket on your TV.

However maybe you could give an update regarding your aerial, that is where installed.

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Thursday, 16 February 2012
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Ed Surrey
2:41 PM
Croydon

My digital TV often switches the radio stations from 700 numbers to 800 numbers. I retune but it happens again. Other BBC channels are also affected, not the main ones, but The news channel, Sky News and the Red button is now an 800 number. My transmitter is Crystal palace and the TV is a Marks and Spencer brand.

Thank you.


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Steve
2:50 PM

My post code CM9 4SF. My (low gain) aerial is mounted on a pole on the chimney and points at Sudbury. Looks like a 12 element (?) but I didn't put it up there. See aerial photo Pictures by 1stevebevan2 - Photobucket
I can only get PSB's. Is it likely that with replacement high gain aerial I could get COM 5,6 now or no chance, just have to wait until Sudbury goes to full power on COM 5,6 late July? Alternatively with high gain aerial, could I get all Crystal Palace muxes when it goes full power 18th April? Want to dump Sky as soon as possible! (CM94SF)

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