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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

Crystal Palace transmitter - Crystal Palace transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 18/11/2024 Screen may go black on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Thursday, 19 April 2012
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optimist
7:56 PM
Stansted

Technical questions please.
1) When looping the aerial feed through a HDD/DVD recorder to a good quality digibox, does the signal to the digibox get amplified or reduced and by how many dB. I seem to have read somewhere that a + 3 db could occur?.
2) By what % does a 12 dB attenuator reduce the signal . By 90%?
3) With a 2 way passive splitter, is the signal split 50/50 assuming minimal down line coax cable

Tks.

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David Taylor
8:11 PM
Swanley

Hi JB38
Thanks for reply.
When on analogue the signal was so poor I fitted a motorised aerial direction box.
At one time it was so bad I had to aim at
Chelmsford, I think, and watch Anglia so unless something remarkable has happened to
improve recption I don't think it can be too strong. My nieghbours at the side and behind
had the same trouble so we seem to be in a dead spot. I took the box back and swopped it
but the new one is the same.Is there any difference between a cheap box and a dearer one.Will try with indoor aerial and let you know

Dave

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Pam
8:59 PM

Hi,
I've lost the band of channels that includes film four, itv 4, yesterday etc. I've tried re-tuning my freeview box but they haven't returned. My signal is from the Crystal Palace transmitted. Can someone help me, in layman's terms, please? I not so good when it comes to technology.
Thanks for any replies,
Pam

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jb38
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

9:04 PM

David Taylor: Yes, try the set top or wire test, as now you are experiencing the same symptoms with your new box its definitely inclined to suggest instability in the tuner, and that can only really happen when the RF being fed into its tuner is intense to the extent that its causing self oscillation to occur, the audio/visual symptoms you describe being a classic one.

That said though, if it is instability, then what's seen should stop instantly if you pull the aerial out.

By the way, the only boxes that use what could be considered as higher grade tuners are Humax devices, as a huge range of boxes (about 15 or so) seen in places like Argos etc are all based on variations of Vestel (Turkey) chassis, the ironical thing being that its boxes with the more sensitive tuners that are first to suffer from RF overloading, boxes that are on the deaf side generally coping better in this type of situation, that being why some people with more than one box in their house finds that stations can be picked up one box and not the other, all down purely to the differing sensitivities involved.


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Tim
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

10:25 PM
Radlett

Pam. Try a manual scan on channel 28 and see what happens.

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NICK ADSL UK
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10:35 PM

For pvr's and HD recorders the top brands are humax and Panasonic and it would be wise to stick on these 2 brands only if in doubt as the other brands can be aerial quality /strength specific and may not be suitable at this time under varying condition's

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Dave Lindsay
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11:11 PM

Pam: What's the make and model?

If it's a Grundig GDB2 or GDB3, for example, then I wouldn't expect it to work with these channels from Crystal Palace as there is a known issue.

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Dave Lindsay
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11:14 PM

Pam: Sorry, I meant Goodmans GDB2 and GDB3 rather than Grundig. They both begin with a G!

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Big Mart
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

11:32 PM
London

jb38: My television signal comes from a block of flats across the road, going underground and then fed into the houses opposite!

I have no idea what is there, I just plug the aerial in from a wall socket.

TBH All seems well, but hopefully tomorrow will be the first evening I will be able to check everything since Wednesday.

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Friday, 20 April 2012
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lesg
1:31 AM
Reading

My admiration increases more and more for guys such as Briantist, jb38, Mike Dimmick and Dave Lindsay. Apart from their technical knowledge, they must have tremendous patience in helping us mortals deal with these switchover issues especially when they have to keep repeating the same answers!
Further to my post yesterday concerning apparent success with my Humax STB and Panasonic PVR, I encountered a few more glitches today. When I retuned the Panny PVR it had lost the HD channels found yesterday. So I bypassed the old booster from the aerial input, retuned again and Robert's your father's brother! Everything is now received, signal strength is around 60 to 70% and quality is 100%, with not a pixel out of place. Previously I had assumed that my signal could not possible be too high as I live near Reading on the western fringes of the reception area (which is why we had the amplifier to get decent analogue reception). I was wrong, since the booster was obviously having an adverse effect. People really close to Crystal Palace must be able to get their signals without an aerial (well almost)!
So thanks guys, your repeated advice on signals being overloaded or too strong have convinced me!

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