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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

Crystal Palace transmitter - Crystal Palace transmitter: Possible effect on TV reception week commencing 25/11/2024 Screen may go black on some or all channels Digital tick


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Sunday, 29 April 2012
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Tim
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3:33 PM
Radlett

Big Mart. Satellite cable is double screened inside, it has a copper foil screen under the outter PVC insulation then under the copper foil is the copper braid then the centre solid copper wire also insulated, in practice most places will sell the higher quality cable now, Maplin only sell the higher spec cable ( although not the cheapest place to buy it). What I mean by high quality aerial plugs is metal ones, there are a few types of plugs out there that have.a plastic casing I personally would avoid these.

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Big Mart
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4:31 PM
London

Tim: I am really wondering if it is worth it all. As I said I can pick up all other Freeview channels through my DR. If I really want to record a programme from the terrestrial stations I can use the standard channels (1,2,3 etc.) rather than the HDs.

I was just hoping somebody maybe able to give me a quick fix.

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Tim
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5:07 PM
Radlett

I understand how you feel, digital signals can a pain in the ar#@ sometimes. Analogue signals could at least be watched with a bit of interference but with digital its all or nothing.. I feel frustrated on your behalf, digital is great 99.9% of the time but if you have an untrackable fault then its a different story.

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jb38
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6:24 PM

Big Mart: On reading some of your back postings regarding your problem I cant say that I have actually noticed you having mentioned what the signal strength / quality is indicated at on your HD recorder, so a check should be made on this when all seems OK then again when the problems are occurring, or even if the picture vanishes altogether, as the signal will still likely be there but sitting at just under the reception threshold of the recorders tuner, and maybe you could also indicate the model number of the device in question.

Regarding the cable and plugs used, a good quality coax plug in basic terms means one NOT made of aluminium but nickel plated brass, and if you do not have a soldering iron then choose the types that use a grub screw to hold the cables solid inner core onto the plugs centre connector.

As far as cable is concerned, satellite cable cannot always be automatically classed as being better over a normal quality coax, albeit that it was a few years ago when satellite reception first started, but since then inferior grades can be found on sale in various outlets and so look for cable with markings on the outer cover such as WF100 or PF100 which can also be obtained in white if required.

That said though, normal coax thats over 6.5mm in diameter is usually always OK for what you require, but have a look at the end of the roll to make sure that you see copper braiding, as although satellite grade of the type mentioned is good its not very flexible, and thats not always the best thing where jumper leads are involved.



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Kevin Hodges
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7:21 PM
Chelmsford

Just to confirm jb38's posting above. I've re-cabled all my runs in WF100 and the improvement exceeded my expectations. The signal loss is hardly noticeable over runs of 20m+. I did have the aluminium braid prior to this and would never go back. I purchased a drum of WF100 from 'a well known internet auction site' but it's worth shopping around as prices vary considerably. The only down side I've encountered is that it's a bit stiff so tight bends should be avoided.

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Monday, 30 April 2012
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Andy H
10:13 AM

Hi all

Located at BR5 near Orpington

I still can't get ArqA from CP on C22 at all, however, I'm getting a "weak" (<10%)signal on C42 which is "fair" to "good" quality on my Sony HDD/DVD recorder which decodes well - so where's that coming from ?

Also, I'm getting a strong C44 signal, but the recorder won't decode it.

It has been suggested, by an Arqiva Senior Engineer, that I may have water in the aerial or downlead causing loss pf one channel (C22) whilst the others are at normal strength and quality. Anyone come across this ?

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Tuesday, 1 May 2012
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Big Mart
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10:59 PM
London

jb38: Sorry for the delay in coming back to you. I took the following readings this morning.

BBC News Signal 74% Quality 100%
Yesterday 46% / 100%
BBC1 HD 14% 0% - 44% (varying).

I have already determined that I am picking the signal up from the correct Crystal Palace transmitter.

I have yet to check my cables, but I think one is a white plastic cable with moulded plugs at each end.

My recorder is Sony SVR-HDT500 Freeview+ HD


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Wednesday, 2 May 2012
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Big Mart
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4:48 PM
London

jb38: The plug coming from the socket in the wall to the Recorder is thick brown cable with a silver coax plug at each end. Both ends are screwed in tightly and I can just see a bit of inner core wire in the middle hole.

The ones out from Recorder to the television is white plastic, and plus are moulded on. No inner core is visible.

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Thursday, 3 May 2012
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NICK ADSL UK
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9:30 AM

Right JB the latest news from uk digital that i have is that you should now find all is well from the CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter

I can confirm that people like me on the very edge of receiving a signal from the CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter and that providing you have a good set up like i have you will be pleased to know that you will be getting 100% for signal quality and 100% for strength across all TV channels in other words you will have a full rock steady house

Well that's what I'm now getting and at the end of day i just had to sit tight and just do another rescan

so if you are still getting a problem you must do another rescan as the power is there and also the quality providing you have got a good set up

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Big Mart
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12:04 PM
London

NICK ADSL UK: Just rescanned my DR. Still the same problem with the HD channels breaking up (it is like a tear across the screen for approx 1 - 2 seconds every few seconds).

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