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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Sunday, 17 February 2013
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KMJ,Derby
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8:34 PM

Steve Flynn: The poor quality on some muxes is indicative of the signal either being subject to interference from another transmitter (including an RF modulator) or the signal is corrupted due to multiple reflections or partial obstructions such as trees in the signal path. The Digital UK postcode checker does not make a prediction for the Hannington COM muxes at your location and significantly shows the PSB mux on C42 as being less reliable than the other two. This makes me wonder if Heathfield signals could be present at a very low level, but sufficient to cause problems to reception from Hannington. Heathfield shares C41, C42, C44 and C47 with Hannington. If this is the case careful positioning of the aerial to find a null for the Heathfield signals will be required.

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Monday, 18 February 2013
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Tony Putner
6:15 PM

Hi, Please could you tell me why there is no ITV3 transmission from the London tansmitter at East Grinstead West Sussex? Also the number channels transmitted is low compared with other transmitters. Thank you.

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KMJ,Derby
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6:58 PM

Tony Putner: ITV3 is carried on the SDN mux which is only transmitted from main transmitters and a number of former relay sites which serve relatively large numbers of viewers. The reason for this is based on economics, as additionally serving all the other relays would double the transmission costs whilst only adding about 8% more viewers. The owners of the COM muxes therefore declined when invited to consider serving additional sites. Crystal Palace is your nearest main station for reception of the full six mux service.

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Dave Lindsay
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7:00 PM

Tony Putner: Because the Commercial networks operate purely for profit and so choose those sites where they can cover the most viewers for least cost:

Londonderry (Northern Ireland) digital TV transmitter | ukfree.tv - 10 years of independent, free digital TV advice

The only thing you can do is investigate the possibility of receiving from another, full-service, transmitter.

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Dave Lindsay's 5,724 posts GB flag
Tuesday, 12 March 2013
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Ann
4:52 PM
Dartford

Although in Kent I can only get London from CP on Freeview, whereas a friend 100yds further down London Rd gets London on the Front room freeview and South East on the back room both with her roof arial.

My Community new Digital Dish arial is fitted at equivilant to gutter height on a house but is 1/2 way up the Block height. When it was fitted 2010, apparently if Tenants wanted Sky they could have Sky and pay tuned to this same arial.

I have just noticed on my Orange PAYG Mobile that EE is now showing so in my area already but dont use it.

My Question is should some of the occasional No Signal and pixel bands be due to 4G and have I got worse to come.

At present since Switchover Quality is shown as 100% but Signal has is constantly jumping from 80% and settles to 61% then on channel change goes back upto 80% then back to a usual 61%, or is this Digi. Box about to turn up its toes.

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jb38
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5:41 PM

Ann: Your friend could be picking up the signal from the Bluebell Hill transmitter located at roughly half way between Gillingham and Maidstone, it being BBC1 South East for news etc.

Not quite sure what you are meaning by "digital dish" as that is used for Sky or Freesat purposes Freeview being received via a normal aerial, and so the question would be whether or not you are using a normal aerial? or is it a communal one?

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jb38's 7,179 posts GB flag
Wednesday, 13 March 2013
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Ann
3:26 AM
Dartford

Thanks jb38 I thought that may be the reason although I didnt know if Bluebell was still operating.

Yes it is a 2010 fitted Communal dish aerial and total rewiring to each flat and as mentioned in my 2nd paragraph is fitted on the side of Block 1/2 way up which is approx gutter height on a normal house. I know of a couple of Tenants who wanted Sky and the Aerial Contractor could supply and tune to this aerial instead of fixing individual dishes which are not allowed. The blocks would look like millipeds if seperate sky were fitted.

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KMJ,Derby
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11:26 AM

Ann: The frequencies that EE are currently using for 4G are among those already in use for mobile phones. They are not part of the former UHF TV band, which is due to be used for 4G in a few months time and has been the subject of wild speculation and scaremongering. Reception from Crystal Palace is really among the least likely to be affected, and your installation might already be fitted with filters which prevent reception of UHF signals on frequencies higher than those used at Crystal Palace. This could also be a factor in the non appearance of Bluebell Hill on your TV when scanning for channels.

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KMJ,Derby's 1,811 posts GB flag
Thursday, 14 March 2013
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Ann
1:33 AM
Dartford

Thanks KMJ I thought EE(Orange) had bought into the New 4G tipical con.

I dont somehow think the Council would think that far ahead, just get the Switchover rewiring job done as cheap as possible and tackle any problems when they hit. I guess it will be a case of wait and see.

Thanks guys for tempory peace of mind, I knew I would get the true picture on here.

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KMJ,Derby
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12:09 PM

Ann: You are correct in that EE was successful in bidding for spectrum in the 800MHz block. Other companies to win spectrum are Hutchison 3G, Telefonica UK and Vodaphone. Services are expected to launch using these frequencies around the middle of this year - 2013.

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