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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

Are there any planned engineering works or unexpected transmitter faults on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) mast?

CRYSTAL PALACE transmitter - AM: Radio 4 on MW has now closed. Please retune to FM, Digital Radio, digital TV, BBC Sounds or smart speakers to continue listening. More information can be found on the front page of this Reception Advice website. from 15 Apr 00:00. . BBC


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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

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Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
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1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
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3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London), 71 That’s 60s,

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
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20 U&Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 U&Dave ja vu, 58 ITV3 +1, 59 ITV4 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 91 WildEarth, 93 ITVBe +1, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 251 Al Jazeera English, 255 FRANCE 24 (in English), 265 Rok Sky +1, plus 29 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 U&Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 U&Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 &UYesterday +1, 76 That's TV 2 MCR, 233 Sky News, plus 13 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 U&W, 27 U&Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! christmas, 56 That's TV (UK), 63 GREAT! romance mix, 73 HobbyMaker, 75 That's 90s, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

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Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Tuesday, 13 October 2020
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Chris.SE
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11:06 PM

David :

When Arqiva chose to close COM8 some of its channels closed, some moved to COM7. (See my post on p307 Sunday, 21 June 2020 for background to this Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) Full Freeview transmitter | free and easy )
4HD+1 was one of the ones that closed.

For which channels are on which multiplex, see Channel listings for Industry Professionals | Freeview

If you have a Group A aerial I'm surprised that you ever managed to get a signal for COMs 7&8 (was C55&56) unless you are close to the transmitter. You could try a manual tune for C55. You really need a Group T/Wideband aerial, but unless you are doing the job yourself, you may not consider it worth the expenditure considering COM7 is a temporary multiplex.
If you provide a full postcode we can look at your predicted reception.

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Sunday, 22 November 2020
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Chris.SE
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2:55 PM

All:

As the last reminder is several pages back, some UHF channels updates may not have been done to the information at the top of the transmitter page. So -
In the order PSBs1-3, COMs4-7, Local multiplexes, the UHF channels are as follows
Crystal Palace C23, C26, C30, C25, C22, C28, C55, C35 (London Local mux).

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Thursday, 10 December 2020
Monday, 28 December 2020
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Sean
1:53 PM

Good afternoon. I live in the Hornchurch area of London. I have freeview and get 94 channels via an indoor aerial all the channels show reception as 90% + and often 100%. However I can never seem to get any of the Now' music channels. My indoor aerial has direct line of sight towards Crystal Palace and I live in an elevated position. My JVC Tv picks up the the 94 channels. But strangely my Panasonic PVR picks up 88 using the same aerial. Question: are the now TV stations on some kind of different frequency or do they just get broadcast with a weaker signal?

Hope someone can assist.

Sean.

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StevensOnln1
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2:35 PM

Sean : The only Now music channel available to you on Freeview is Now Xmas (temporarily renamed from Now 80s) which is on the COM7 multiplex, which is broadcast at Crystal Palace using DVB-T2 (so your TV needs to be able to receive HD channels) but at lower power than the main PSB and commercial multiplexes, as well as being on a higher frequency, with both factors making reception on an indoor aerial more difficult.

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Chris.SE
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3:18 PM

Sean :

Whether this might help, see Channel listings for Industry Professionals | Freeview for which channels are on which multiplex.
And, in the multiplex order BBCA/PSB1, D3&4/PSB2, BBCB HD/PSB3, SDN/COM4, ArqA/COM5, ArqB/COM6, COM7, Local multiplex, the UHF channels for Crystal Palace are as follows
C23, C26, C30, C25, C22, C28, C55, C35 (London Local mux).
Try a manual tune on C55 &/or C35. Autotune sometimes misses weaker signals.

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Sunday, 24 January 2021
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Roger Bricker
2:42 PM
Surbiton

I would like your advice on problems we have with Freeview etc from the Crystal Palace transmitter.
We live close to the SW Railway mainline track at Berrylands - Post code KT5 8EL.

Just recently moved to this address and now experiencing unusual TV reception interference everytime a train passes our house. Strangely this is mostly apparent with trains travelling in one direction towards London Waterloo.

Today (24 Jan2021) there are no trains running due to local enginerring works, and there has been no TV reception interference what so ever. Perfect reception all day.

The train line is approx. 200yds from where we live.

Many thanks and look forward to your reply.

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Monday, 25 January 2021
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Chris.SE
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2:14 AM

Roger Bricker:

This is always one of the most trickiest problems to deal with, and not always successfully I'm sorry to say. The problem is not helped by the fact that the railway line is more or less on the line of sight to the transmitter at your location.
However, a number of questions to start. You say you've recently moved to this address, how recently?
It's possible the problem is related to the transmitter work at Crystal Palace that has been going on for the last 3 weeks. It's still listed for Planned Engineering with Possible weak signal which won't help.
Normally your area in general should get very good signals, leaving aside local interference.

Where is your aerial, and do you know what type it is, can you describe it all, does it have rods that are straight or look like X's? Does the back of the aerial look like a flat plate or is it made up of rods. If you can provide a link to a picture of one that looks similar, have a look around this site Aerials - A.T.V. Poles, Brackets, Clamps & Aerials

How high up is the aerial in relation to the railway line, is it above the line or more in line with it?
How do your neighbours get on with reception, what aerials do they have?

It's possible when the transmitter work is complete, the problem may go away. If the aerial installation is old then it may have deteriorated which will increase the chances of problems such as interference.
The right type of aerial, mounted above the height of the railway line, might be a solution if it is an old aerial.

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Tuesday, 23 February 2021
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Mark-T
10:57 PM

I recently purchased and installed a masthead amplifier splitter.
It was sold as having both 4G and 5G filter. Without paying too much attention as to what this means, I later discovered it filters out all the 700 and 800 MHz frequencies. The label on the splitter says it works on frequency channels 21 - 48.

After installing it and performing a retune, I realised I lost a few channels. After a bit of digging, I realised these were all the channels on COM7 and 8 (channel 55 and 56) which my splitter is now filtering out.

My question is, does anyone know when channels 55 and 56 will be turned off as I am hoping that BBC News HD and BBC4 HD get moved onto a frequency channel that I can actually receive now?

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StevensOnln1
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11:16 PM

Mark-T: COM8 has already closed last year. There is no confirmed date for COM7 to close, however it's licence is due to expire in the middle of 2022 and could close sooner if the winner of the 700MHz centre gap SDL spectrum (now due to be auctioned by Ofcom next month) gives 3 months notice, although this seems unlikely as there are currently no phones or other 5G devices available which support the 700MHz SDL band, so it seems likely that COM7 will be around for another year or so.

Nothing has been announced yet regarding what will happen to BBC Four HD (or any other channels) when COM7 eventually closes.

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