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The symbol shows the location of the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter which serves 4,490,000 homes. The bright green areas shown where the signal from this transmitter is strong, dark green areas are poorer signals. Those parts shown in yellow may have interference on the same frequency from other masts.

This transmitter has no current reported problems

The BBC and Digital UK report there are no faults or engineering work on the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmitter.

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Which Freeview channels does the Crystal Palace transmitter broadcast?

If you have any kind of Freeview fault, follow this Freeview reset procedure first.

Digital television services are broadcast on a multiplexes (or Mux) where many stations occupy a single broadcast frequency, as shown below.

MuxH/VFrequencyHeightModeWatts
PSB1
BBCA
 H max
C23 (490.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
1 BBC One (SD) London, 2 BBC Two England, 9 BBC Four, 23 BBC Three, 201 CBBC, 202 CBeebies, 231 BBC News, 232 BBC Parliament, plus 16 others

PSB2
D3+4
 H max
C26 (514.0MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
3 ITV 1 (SD) (London), 4 Channel 4 (SD) London ads, 5 Channel 5, 6 ITV 2, 10 ITV3, 13 E4, 14 Film4, 15 Channel 4 +1 London ads, 18 More4, 26 ITV4, 28 ITVBe, 30 E4 +1, 35 ITV1 +1 (London),

PSB3
BBCB
 H max
C30- (545.8MHz)324mDTG-200,000W
Channel icons
46 5SELECT, 101 BBC One HD London, 102 BBC Two HD England, 103 ITV 1 HD (ITV London), 104 Channel 4 HD London ads, 105 Channel 5 HD, 106 BBC Four HD, 107 BBC Three HD, 204 CBBC HD, 205 CBeebies HD, plus 1 others

COM4
SDN
 H max
C25 (506.0MHz)314mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
20 Drama, 21 5USA, 29 ITV2 +1, 32 5STAR, 33 5Action, 38 Channel 5 +1, 41 Legend, 42 GREAT! action, 57 Dave ja vu, 58 ITVBe +1, 59 ITV3 +1, 64 Blaze, 67 TRUE CRIME, 68 TRUE CRIME XTRA, 78 TCC, 81 Blaze +1, 83 Together TV, 89 ITV4 +1, 91 WildEarth, 209 Ketchup TV, 210 Ketchup Too, 211 YAAAS!, 267 Al Jazeera English, plus 30 others

COM5
ArqA
 H max
C22 (482.0MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
11 Sky Mix, 17 Really, 19 Dave, 31 E4 Extra, 36 Sky Arts, 40 Quest Red, 43 Food Network, 47 Film4 +1, 48 Challenge, 49 4seven, 60 Drama +1, 65 That's TV 2, 70 Quest +1, 74 Yesterday +1, 75 That's 90s, 233 Sky News, plus 11 others

COM6
ArqB
 H max
C28- (529.8MHz)321mDTG-8200,000W
Channel icons
12 Quest, 25 W, 27 Yesterday, 34 GREAT! movies, 39 DMAX, 44 HGTV, 52 GREAT! romance, 56 That's TV (UK), 61 GREAT! movies extra, 63 GREAT! romance mix, 71 That’s 60s, 73 HobbyMaker, 82 Talking Pictures TV, 84 PBS America, 235 Al Jazeera Eng, plus 18 others

LW
 H -10dB
C35 (586.0MHz)324mDTG-1220,000W
Channel icons
from 31st March 2014: 8 LONDON LIVE,

DTG-8 64QAM 8K 3/4 27.1Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
DTG-12 QSPK 8K 3/4 8.0Mb/s DVB-T MPEG2
H/V: aerial position (horizontal or vertical)

Which BBC and ITV regional news can I watch from the Crystal Palace transmitter?

regional news image
BBC London 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London W1A 1AA, 12km north-northwest (335°)
to BBC London region - 55 masts.
regional news image
ITV London News 4.9m homes 18.4%
from London WC1X 8XZ, 11km north-northwest (345°)
to ITV London region - 55 masts.

Are there any self-help relays?

Charlton AthleticTransposerRedeveloped north stand Charlton Athletic Football Club130 homes
DeptfordTransposersouth-east London100 homes
GreenfordTransposer12 km N Heathrow Airport203 homes
HendonTransposerGraham Park estate50 homes
White CityTransposer9 km W central London80 homes

How will the Crystal Palace (Greater London, England) transmission frequencies change over time?

1950s-80s1984-971997-981998-20122012-1321 Mar 2018
VHFA K TA K TA K TA K TW T
C1BBCtvwaves
C22ArqAArqA
C23ITVwavesITVwavesITVwavesBBCABBCA
C25SDNSDN
C26BBC1wavesBBC1wavesBBC1wavesD3+4D3+4
C28-ArqBArqB
C29LW
C30C4wavesC4wavesC4waves-BBCBBBCB
C33BBC2wavesBBC2wavesBBC2wavescom7
C35com8
C55tv_offcom7tv_off
C56tv_offCOM8tv_off

tv_off Being removed from Freeview (for 5G use) after November 2020 / June 2022 - more
Table shows multiplexes names see this article;
green background for transmission frequencies
Notes: + and - denote 166kHz offset; aerial group are shown as A B C/D E K W T
waves denotes analogue; digital switchover was 4 Apr 12 and 18 Apr 12.

How do the old analogue and currrent digital signal levels compare?

Analogue 1-4 1000kW
SDN, ARQA, ARQB, BBCA, D3+4, BBCB(-7dB) 200kW
com7(-13.7dB) 43.1kW
com8(-14dB) 39.8kW
Mux 1*, Mux 2*, Mux A*, Mux B*, Mux C*, Mux D*, LW(-17dB) 20kW

Which companies have run the Channel 3 services in the Crystal Palace transmitter area

Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated-Rediffusion†
Sep 1955-Jul 1968Associated TeleVision◊
Jul 1968-Dec 1992Thames†
Jul 1968-Feb 2004London Weekend Television♦
Jan 1993-Feb 2004Carlton†
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc♦
Feb 2004-Dec 2014ITV plc†
Feb 1983-Dec 1992TV-am•
Jan 1993-Sep 2010GMTV•
Sep 2010-Dec 2014ITV Daybreak•
• Breakfast ◊ Weekends ♦ Friday night and weekends † Weekdays only. Crystal Palace was not an original Channel 3 VHF 405-line mast: the historical information shown is the details of the company responsible for the transmitter when it began transmitting Channel 3.

Comments
Saturday, 21 April 2012
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jb38
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

8:24 PM

martyh: Just to reinforce a point, it does all hinge on the "05" issue, because as you know that model of TV is on more than one list as not being able to operate on an 8k transmission mode.

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martyh
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

8:26 PM

jb38 - Copy that. Looking forward to hearing if anything new comes to light. In the meantime, will check out your freeview wedge suggestions. I appreciate your time spent on this. Regards,martyh.

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Sunday, 22 April 2012
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Derek Sparrow
9:47 AM
Hockley

Hi,
My aerial, installed more than 20 years ago, collects the signal from Crystal Palace. My postcode is SS5 4BZ. I have a commercial signal booster in the loft, and have always had a good picture on analogue, on the 5 channels, and a good picture on digital on the main channels, but not on the extra channels.

Since retuning the digital signal, I can still see the main channels, plus a few of the extra channel, but on many of the extra channels there is a lot of pixilation of the pictures and some channels show nothing at all.

Should I have the aerial replaced, and should I replace it with an aerial aimed at Sudbury to improve the received transmissions?



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KMJ,Derby
sentiment_satisfiedGold

11:57 AM

Derek Sparrow: The reception prediction for Crystal Palace is variable at your location, with a very low chance of reliable reception on some muxes. Sudbury is shown as giving good reception on the PSB muxes at present, the COM muxes being good from 27th June 2012, when the power is increased to match that of the PSB muxes. The reception predicted is of course subject to there being no local problems such as trees or tall buldings blocking the signal path.

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Kate
12:15 PM
London

Roger

Unfortunately Media Center does not provide a manual tune option for DVB-T. Nor selection of "all" or "any" for source. Selection of source is by postcode, for which Microsoft must maintain some mapping. I suspect that this mapping was not updated for digital switchover. I have tried using a Birmingham postcode, but that didn't help.

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David Taylor
3:24 PM
Swanley

Hi JB38
Have tried three different scart leads and wiggled ends to no effect. The scart lead I'm using was connecting this TV to VCR, I removed VCR and replaced it with the digibox
It worked OK with VCR does Freeview use the same terminals as VCR ? I know scart does not use all terminals for all things. I can take the TV apart and check the connections.
Guess this is all getting a bit academic now
and I should just by a new TV and hope it works and not waste any more of your or my time.I just resent chucking away a perfectly
good TV but at least it didn't cost much.I feel sorry for the poor souls who paid out hundreds recently for TVs that no longer work thanks to Freeview God bless them :)
Yours Dave Taylor

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NICK ADSL UK
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

3:47 PM

JB
What are your views on the public continuing to get freeview to work well?
My view is if they can to forget freeview and go with freesat

The picture and sound are better and more balanced and in my long experience back to the on digital days of 1992 that should be the way to go and keep freeview as a back up only

I have tried many times to help them with leads so that they wouldn't make such a hash of it but years on it's still a pain and needs a proper overhaul ?

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NICK ADSL UK
sentiment_satisfiedBronze

3:54 PM

I should add my professional experiences involve knowing when a person or group of people dont know what there doing sure they have all the qualifications as long as a kangaroos leap but like in the bbc programme the apprentice the reality is they are well off the mark and make a hash of what should be straight forward

Broadband is another get me rich i haven't a clue what I'm doing industry

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jb38
sentiment_very_satisfiedPlatinum

5:17 PM

David Taylor: The difficulty with your problem is that its been proven as not really being one of an issue concerning reception, but one that on the face of it should be far in a way simpler to rectify, insomuch that when the Freeview box is coupled into the TV using a normal scart lead some form of instability is taking place, or indeed is already in existence within the box itself as you have verified that the scart lead is OK between both devices, and so taking this into account and coupled to the symptoms experienced (especially hum on audio) is still inclined to point to a defect in the Freeview box (or separate power supply to?) albeit this is the second one of that model you have tried. (what model is it?)

By the way the scart pin connections used by the VCR will be less than is used by the Freeview box as the VCR will not normally have an RGB output, so maybe you could check on the TV and also the box that CVBS is selected as the boxes output / TV input "if" it allows you to set this. That said, the only positive way of knowing if the box is actually faulty or not is to connect it into another TV, no aerial connection being required in the box for a test as the problem was still seen with no aerial connected.

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Roger
6:02 PM
Chelmsford

Kate: It seems you are not alone...http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/windows/4115251-windows-media-centre-freeview-18th-april-switchover.html Seems a rant or diatribe aimed towards Windows UK division is in order. Give 'em hell.

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